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Re: did i boil my casing jars the right way? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #7508867 - 10/11/07 01:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

MGMC or miracle grow moisture controll works well to its also available in the same places you find jiffy mix


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Re: did i boil my casing jars the right way? [Re: fallingaway24]
    #7509069 - 10/11/07 02:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I strongly distrust the microwave tek, it's not pasteurization, it's partial sterilization.

Some portions will get hot enough to be cooked and sterilized while other portions will not...but absolutely no portions of the mixture will be pasteurized. And the bits that are sterilized from the heating will be cooked which means they'll become nutritious for whatever contaminate comes into contact with it.

The purpose of pasteurization - in this regard - is to kill any non-thermophilic bacterial and fungal microorganisms *without* cooking the peat moss. Cooking (sterilizing) organic compounds changes their nutritional content...

For our substrates (coir,poo,compost) this is bad because it breaks down the food source a little more than the mycelium likes and it's somewhat like forcing a grown man to eat baby food.

And for our casing materials (peat moss, specifically) it takes something that is relatively non-nutritious and makes it more nutritious by causing it to further break down and release simple sugars and carbohydrates that contaminates can easily colonize.

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Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.


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Re: did i boil my casing jars the right way? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #7509447 - 10/11/07 03:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

if i already have my jars loaded with jiffy mix could i use those in the microwave?? i know you cannot put aluminum in there would the metal lids/ring be okay? if not what could i use to cover the jars??


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Re: did i boil my casing jars the right way? [Re: tony8404]
    #7509521 - 10/11/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Personally, I would not put anything intended for mycology in the microwave. Some growers have success with it, but there's no way to accurately control the temperature of the material.
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Re: did i boil my casing jars the right way? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7509672 - 10/11/07 04:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

just because he wouldn't doesnt mean that it doesn't work. it works flawlessly EVERY TIME for me.
microwave safe container make sure substrate is at optimal water content microwave 5 min stir with fork microwave 5 more


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Re: did i boil my casing jars the right way? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #7509790 - 10/11/07 05:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

okay guys....... if i already have 6 quart jars filled with jiffy mix.... can i place them in the microwave???? if so, can i use the regular lids/ring in the microwave or do i have to use the plastic lids????? i have plastic lids but with holes in them should i place micropore tape over the holes?????????????????????


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Re: did i boil my casing jars the right way? [Re: tony8404]
    #7509866 - 10/11/07 05:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

all right guys i really need an answer on this one... can i still do the pastureizing even though i did last night but didnt get it right? could i just redo it or do i need to start over?


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Re: did i boil my casing jars the right way? [Re: tony8404]
    #7510004 - 10/11/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, you can redo it, no worries.


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