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Offlinechristofchristof
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Question about my incubator
    #7507892 - 10/11/07 04:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hey, my incubator is a plastic 20 litre storage box, with the inside coated in foil, and a 6 watt floresent light to increase tempreture (get its to around 80).

Anyways getting to the point when I take the lid of it smells "electricial". Obviously this smell is coming from the lighting, but can this do any harm to the jars? (pftek)

Dumb question maybe, but need to eliminate possibilities why my myc aint growing. Got a new syringe today so hopefully it will work.


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Re: Question about my incubator [Re: christofchristof]
    #7508171 - 10/11/07 09:14 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the smell part won't matter, but do you have your lighting inside the incubator? An incubator can't have any light, it needs to be dark.


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Re: Question about my incubator [Re: whosyourberry]
    #7508206 - 10/11/07 09:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Cheers. I keep my jars in black socks to stop light.


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Re: Question about my incubator [Re: whosyourberry]
    #7508350 - 10/11/07 10:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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whosyourberry said:
An incubator can't have any light, it needs to be dark.




Sure it can have light. They'll still colonize fine.


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Re: Question about my incubator [Re: veilbreaker]
    #7508611 - 10/11/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah I heard different things about light, but I keep them covered anyways.


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Re: Question about my incubator [Re: christofchristof]
    #7508753 - 10/11/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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An incubator can't have any light, it needs to be dark.





Incorrect. There is no reason to provide light during colonization, but also no reason to block light. It has no effect on colonizing myclelium.
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Re: Question about my incubator [Re: whosyourberry]
    #7508759 - 10/11/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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whosyourberry said:
An incubator can't have any light, it needs to be dark.




Without disrespect to the poster, this statement is completely incorrect. There are no light (or it's absence) requirements for our favored strains of mushroom. Some species - such as agaricus bisporus - do require darkness during incubation, p. cubensis is not one of them.


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figgusfiddus said:
Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.


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Re: Question about my incubator [Re: mycocurious]
    #7508774 - 10/11/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Also, I would to add that the smell you're noticing is most likely ozone and in concentrate quantities - such as a closed tote - is toxic for pretty much all living matter.

And it's coming from the fact that the aluminum foil + the transformer in your florescent light are working together to form a very makeshift corona discharge ozone generator. lol...


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:justdontknow: Don't mistake my tone for a "matter-of-fact" attitude.  I'm just presenting what I believe to be correct, until I'm corrected...

- How Myco-Curious Prepares Coir & Compost Substrates
- How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier
- How Myco-Curious Builds An Automated Greenhouse
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figgusfiddus said:
Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.


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Re: Question about my incubator [Re: mycocurious]
    #7509747 - 10/11/07 05:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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mycocurious said:
Also, I would to add that the smell you're noticing is most likely ozone and in concentrate quantities - such as a closed tote - is toxic for pretty much all living matter.

And it's coming from the fact that the aluminum foil + the transformer in your florescent light are working together to form a very makeshift corona discharge ozone generator. lol...




so should i scrap this idea and make a new incubator?


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Re: Question about my incubator [Re: christofchristof]
    #7510063 - 10/11/07 06:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Check out this one.

It goes into lots of stuff, but the incubator part is what I liked.

Mine is MUCH smaller. I only used two 5g bins, $30 heater from pet smart (submersible good to 30g I think), and instead of tape I bought pipe fastener hardware (for copper water piping, cheap at home depot). The hardware required the bottom tub to have two holes drilled in it. So its like hex bolts going through the bin into these two holder things. I used RTV (red) gasket sealer (great for making kick ass lids as well) to seal up the holes. And besides that its the same principal as the link up there. I put it in another bin, just in case it leaked (it didn't), with a blanket on it. Set to 82 (brings it to about 80) and your good to go. In the months where I have to use it (now) I have full colonization times in about 5-7 days). So I like using it.

I can fit 9 qt jars in it. That is plenty for me.

Have Fun,
-CK


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Edited by Cheesekiller (10/11/07 06:36 PM)


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Re: Question about my incubator [Re: Cheesekiller]
    #7511459 - 10/12/07 12:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Cheesekiller said:
Check out this one.

It goes into lots of stuff, but the incubator part is what I liked.

Mine is MUCH smaller. I only used two 5g bins, $30 heater from pet smart (submersible good to 30g I think), and instead of tape I bought pipe fastener hardware (for copper water piping, cheap at home depot). The hardware required the bottom tub to have two holes drilled in it. So its like hex bolts going through the bin into these two holder things. I used RTV (red) gasket sealer (great for making kick ass lids as well) to seal up the holes. And besides that its the same principal as the link up there. I put it in another bin, just in case it leaked (it didn't), with a blanket on it. Set to 82 (brings it to about 80) and your good to go. In the months where I have to use it (now) I have full colonization times in about 5-7 days). So I like using it.

I can fit 9 qt jars in it. That is plenty for me.

Have Fun,
-CK




thanks ill check that out


what if i was to just get rid of the foil?


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