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Shimeji
    #7507522 - 10/10/07 11:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

does anyone know what i mean? i have researched but found nothing, popular in japan and other countries (not US). i havent had them in a long time and cant find them. the problem is shimeji can be used for two different mushrooms. the one i am interested in is the one in the pic, looks like a baby oyster. i would really like to find spores/culture to cultivate them, any info is apreciated



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Re: Shimeji [Re: casgoodie]
    #7507527 - 10/10/07 11:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

heres another pic


so are they just baby grey oysters grown in a jar? if so how to achieve?


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Re: Shimeji [Re: casgoodie]
    #7507556 - 10/11/07 12:07 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Search for Hypsizygus tessullatus, the beech mushroom. Sporeworks may have it.

http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/Hypsizygus-tessulatus--Shimeji-Beech-Mushroom-p-16346.html


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Re: Shimeji [Re: Hotnuts]
    #7507583 - 10/11/07 12:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ive found that at wikipedia but i believe that those are the "other" kind. i am thinking maybe just grey oysters, but how to get them to grow like that?


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Re: Shimeji [Re: casgoodie]
    #7508653 - 10/11/07 11:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The pictures look exactly like "baby" grey oysters. They also do look like they are growing from bottles (Japanese style PPE bottles). I believe that if harvested that young, the stems have a nice texture as well.

You can probably grow those easily using any of the many methods/substrates for growing oysters, and just modifying the teks to grow out of mason jars.


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Re: Shimeji [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
    #7508852 - 10/11/07 01:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Shimeji [Re: Hotnuts]
    #7510341 - 10/11/07 07:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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http://www.mushroomexpert.com/hypsizygus_tessellatus.html




Yeah you're right...those hypsizygus look nothing like his pictures. He's interested in immature grey oysters for sure, IMO...


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Re: Shimeji [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
    #7510659 - 10/11/07 08:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The mushrooms in the above posts appear to be P. columbinus, not Hypsizygus tessullatus.


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Re: Shimeji [Re: Hotnuts]
    #7510913 - 10/11/07 09:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

thank you sir, now where to it?


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Re: Shimeji [Re: casgoodie]
    #7510952 - 10/11/07 09:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

NM, found em at sporeworks, so if i cultivate P. columbinus in a jar i should get results like the ones in the pics?


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Re: Shimeji [Re: casgoodie]
    #7512203 - 10/13/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It depends on the several things. The easiest way IMO to grow them is on newspaper.


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Re: Shimeji [Re: Hotnuts]
    #7512215 - 10/13/07 02:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Something like so.

Oyster's on newspaper


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Re: Shimeji [Re: casgoodie]
    #7515635 - 10/14/07 12:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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NM, found em at sporeworks, so if i cultivate P. columbinus in a jar i should get results like the ones in the pics?




Basically, all else being optimal :grin::wink:


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Re: Shimeji [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
    #7517532 - 10/14/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for all the help. this should be my first edible project as soon as i can afford it.


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Re: Shimeji [Re: casgoodie]
    #7520050 - 10/15/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

In Oz they sell Hypsizygus ulmaris as Shimeji, look just like your pics. I have fruited them on popcorn, and the mycelium grows well on coffee grounds, cardboard, paper, wheat and millet-that's what I've tried so far.


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