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When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? 1
#7503365 - 10/09/07 10:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have really witnessed some strange "alignments" with things lately.... It is actually kinda~ neat when some major off the wall "thing" happens like this....! Sometimes it seems as if I am denying something if I just wash my mind of every experienced synchronicity as coincidence.... It would be difficult to figure out the probability of random things like this occurring in a random chaotic world - I am sure.... But damn, what are the chances, or what is the probability of synchronousness happening "for a reason" Vs. "for no reason"....?
Here is what I just had happen (which isn't a REAL big deal).... I popped in a DVD course lecture called "Einstein's Relativity and the Quantum Revolution".... Sat down in my chair and started the 8th lecture "Uncommon Sense - Stretching Time".... It starts up, and the professor is there with a clock (a non-digital) and a stick (stick = a visual measure of "distance")....
After a few relative minutes ( ), I looked at the time on HIS clock.... Then I looked at MY DVR clock that is connected and synchronized to Comcast's servers.... My clock was 20-25 seconds faster than the clock on the lecture DVD.....  When mine hit 11:36, 20 seconds later the clock on DVD hit 11:36 (neither said AM nor PM)....
 Now, I think the clocks being so close in time was pretty neat just by itself.... But the added fact that a large part of the premise of the topic was also about time itself, that pretty much made it double-neat for me....! 
Sssooo, when does synchronicity actually "mean" something to you....?
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7503385 - 10/09/07 10:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think it always means something
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7503524 - 10/09/07 10:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....?
A synchronicity is broadly defined as a 'meaningful coincidence', so always.
PKD had a good theory...
c.1978 Exegesis by Philip K. Dick
The belief that we are pluriforms of God voluntarily descended to this prison world, voluntarily losing our memory, identity and supernatural powers (faculties), all of which can be regained through anamnesis (or, sometimes, the mystical conjunction), is one of the most radical religious views known in the West. But it is known. It is regarded as the Great Blasphemy: replication of the original sin mentioned in the First Book of Adam and Eve and in Genesis. For this pride and aspiration (we are told by orthodoxy) our original fall and exile and punishment, our being taken from our home the gardenland and put into the prison, was inflicted on us. "They wish to be equal to - like - us," the Elohim say, and toss us down. Yet I have reason to believe that this, "the Great Satanic Blasphemy," is true.
First, we are here voluntarily. We did not sin and we were not punished; we elected to descend. Why? To infuse the divine into the lowest strata of creation in order to halt its decomposing - the sinking of its lower realm. This points to a primordial crisis in creation in the total macrocosm (hexagram 12, as illustrated here). The yin form two (dark, deterministic) part was splitting away from the yang or form one. In conventional terms, heaven (upper realm) and earth (lower realm) were separating, carrying the lives within the lower away from their form one (upper) counterparts (this can be viewed as the Godhead itself falling apart, into its yang and yin two halves, with the lower form universe as God expressed physically in time and space). The solution was for the divine (yang, light, form one) to follow the lower realm down, permeating it and thus reuniting the cosmos into one totality. To do this, elements (in ancient terms, sparks) of light advanced (descended) into the dark kingdom, the immutable prison world; upon doing so they shed (and knew they would shed) their bright nature, memory, identity, faculties, and powers, and fell under the dominion of the delusion that the dark kingdom is real (which when severed from the upper realm it is not; i.e. the world we presently live in doesn't exist). There they have lived as prisoners of the master magician, lord of the dark realm who poses as the creator (and who may not know of the light god, the true creator, his other half). But the light god and his pluriforms, the descending (invading) sparks, have cunningly distributed clues [synchronicities] in the dark realm to recall to the drugged and intoxicated sparks of light their true nature and mission (and true source of home). Upon encountering these cryptic clues the forgetful sparks of the upper realm, now prisoners in and of the lower realm, remember, regain their powers and faculties, and link back up with the upper realm and the light god; they are the light god in pluriform, his way of invading the lower realm in disguise. The light god (the divine) has now crucially occupied critical stations in the sinking lower realm, and begins the reannexing of it back into the totality composed of both realms. The sinking ceases; the master magician is stripped of his autonomy and assimilated to the yang part of the Godhead as its passive counterpart, and once more there is one macrocosm ruled by the yang or active (creative) light god assisted by the now receptive yin (dark) side. The divine has triumphed at all levels; the prison is burst, and the vast, light-filled garden kingdom restored as the home of all creatures. These now whole creatures, composed equally of yin and yang, are what I term homoplasmates: The yin part is home (as we know ourselves to be now, only), and the light or yang part is the plasmate or energy part (vs. the physical). Thus renewed and complete microcosms mirroring the renewed and complete macrocosm are achieved. Reality is imparted to the otherwise irreal lower realm, and the upper realm now extends physically into the realm of matter. The integrity of the Godhead is restored; its two halves function in harmony; and the primordial split (or crisis) is resolved - healed.
This is a view compounded of Zoroastrianism, Brahmanism, Gnosticism, Taoism, the macro-microcosmos of Hermes Trismegistus and other mystery religions, and not very much of orthodox Christianity. Christianity can be added if the pluriform microsparks of light are considered plural saviors or Christs comprising a single mystical corpus that is distributed widely in time and space in the dark realm but possessing only one psyche that is somehow also God, the yang or light god.
I have read the above cosmology over, and find no fault in it. In fact, I am amazed. It is in a sense acosmic, and certainly Gnostic, but the Taoist overlay is novel and pleasing; the Taoist overlay redeems it from the flaws of conventional dualist religions and the problems therein. Instead of stressing moral aspects ("good vs. bad"), it stresses epistemological ("real vs. irreal," which I can understand). The lower realm sinks not because it is corrupt or evil or somehow has rebelled but because, as shown in hexagram 12, it is the nature of yin to sink, as it is the nature of yang to rise. The pre-Socratics (and Plato in "Timaeus") were aware of this; v. the model of the winnowing fan and the concept of the vortex. Yang must assimilate yin to keep the totality intact; i.e. yang must renounce its natural tendency to rise and must descend. It cannot expect yin to rise, because yin is not wise; it is only noos that can understand that it must compensate against its own natural tendencies, and do what is unnatural to it. Yin is, so to speak, thick, unthinking, not noos [mind] but soma [body]; noos and soma (or psyche and soma) are the total universe organism. Descending into the yin realm is a sacrifice on yang's part, which through its bright or wise nature it realizes it must make, but it pays a great cost in terms of suffering: loss of memory and identity, abilities, and faculties: It becomes pseudoyin, literally disguised in the yin realm as if it were actually yin, even to the point of forgetting (until reminded), that it is not. This is the agony we face here in this irreal and dense yin realm, we yang traces: This is not our home. We are voluntary exiles here, alienated and alone, violating our own natures for a salvific purpose - a necessary purpose. Yin would not understand this, and until anamnesis sets in for us, we in our distress do not understand the reason either. Eventually it will be revealed to us; meanwhile we ache with longing for our proper home, dimly remembered but deeply felt for. Thus we suppose we are being punished; it feels like punishment, and we make the error of assuming we have sinned. On the contrary; we have renounced joy now, to produce greater joy later, for the good of all creation; we are the Godhead itself suffering the need to be what it is not, to ensure the ultimate stability of krasis (as Empedocles termed it): the unity of love.
Lest any Christian reject this, let him now read the Fourth Gospel in connection with this, and see for himself the similarities.
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: Middleman]
#7503639 - 10/09/07 11:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I will have to read that again tomorrow.... With a clearer mind..... 
A friend once told me, synchronicity is more like life's little signposts saying "you're on the right track"..... 
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: Middleman]
#7504113 - 10/10/07 02:13 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, I like PKD's expressed mythology, but in recent years my take on synchronicity , is that "it's" to be expected considering the multitude of possibilities unfolding in the world. You can also ascribe as much meaning to anything as you like, this does not require an objective basis.
A much grander, even astonishing "synchronicity" in any situation is the fact that you're using your acquired biochemical machinery to perceive someone else using theirs to convey ideas and sensory data, but that's taken for granted along with metabolism, breathing, the constant regeneration of every cell in your body, all the functions of the ancient brains and however you want to quantify the action that causes all of this to happen in the first place. The neocortex comes along and puts a clock up on the wall. Smart and dumb at the same time. Life is so full of choices.
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: Viveka]
#7504127 - 10/10/07 02:19 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here's another interesting article:
Introduction to Carl G. Jung's Principle of Synchronicity
by Remo F. Roth, PhD, CH-8810 Horgen-Zuerich, Switzerland
Thanks to Phyllis Luthi (jobshop@pacbell.net) for the help with the translation
In today's world we reduce all events to the Principle of Cause and Effect (causality) and ask, which cause belongs to which effect. Carl G. Jung, toward the end of his life, realized that there is another type of events. Such events are directed toward a goal, that is, they lead into an event which has no cause. Therefore, they correspond to a new creation. In religious language such "effects" without "cause" were considered as miracles. The Catholic Church calls the underlying principle the providence of God.
When one observes one's dreams over a longer period of time, one becomes aware that often outward events occur that are very similar to the content of one's dreams. It would seem that the inner world and the outer world coincide. Carl G. Jung had suggested that one should - instead of looking for a magical relationship, as they did in medieval times - try to find the common meaning of such relatively simultaneous inner and outer events. The principle that underlies this nexus he called synchronicity.
Jung cites in his letters [vol. 1, 1973, p. 395] an occurrence that is an impressive example of synchronicity: "For instance, I walk with a woman patient in a wood. She tells me about the first dream in her life that had made an everlasting impression upon her. She had seen a spectral fox coming down the stairs in her parental home. At this moment a real fox comes out of the trees not 40 yards away and walks quietly on the path ahead of us for several minutes. The animal behaves as if it were a partner in the human situation."
According to Jung it would be wrong and extremely dangerous, to see a causal relationship between the two occurrences and to say that one event was the cause of the other. That would be nothing other than a relapse to the magical-causal thinking of the middle ages. Instead of this we must accept that the two occurrences are not causally connected, but rather by a common meaning. This means that we have to extract the meaning of the symbol "fox" for the interpretation of this synchronicity. This would somehow purport, that the dreamer herself - symbolically speaking - should be lead much more by her "inner fox", meaning that she must recover the instinctive cleverness she had lost with her intellectual point of view.
When one has experienced a number of such synchroncitities (see also Carl G. Jung’s Scarab Synchronicity), one gains over time the impression that there is a wisdom within them, far beyond that of our conscious knowledge. Furthermore, they would indicate that the inner world, for example dreams out of the so-called unconscious, know something about the outward, but also that the outer, the animate or even the inanimate material world knows something about the inner. Carl G. Jung had therefore put forth the postulate that there has to be a world in which inner and outer world, psyche and matter are connected in an undifferentiated unity. This world was called the unus mundus in the Middle Ages [see also the UNUS MUNDUS forum]. Carl G. Jung and Wolfgang Pauli looked for this world and called it the unified psychophysical reality ("die psychophysische Einheitswirklichkeit") beyond the split in matter and psyche. One must consider this a potential world out of which causeless new creations can occur. Synchronistic events show the moment that this potential world will incarnate into the concrete.
In the above example it was in the moment of that the fox emerged in the forest that this moment came in which the stricken woman came out of her intellectualism and was able to recover her instinctive cleverness. Jung would probably have said something like the following to her: "You see, now the fox is also outside. Invite the symbol of instinctive cleverness into your world and you will be lead by it in your later life. Forget all of your ifs or buts, conquer all your intellectual blocks in this way and begin to trust your instinctive wisdom which will show you the right way." Through the experience and the interpretation of this synchronicity would the consciousness of the client abruptly transform and this impressive occurrence would lead to a new meaning to her future life.
Physically seen the principle of cause and effect leads finally into so-called Entropy, in other words the so called "heat death" of the universe. The differences in energy between various parts decrease until there is no more difference, energy no longer can flow, and life is extinguished.
Similar events one can observe in the psychic realm. People who have been bound too long to the causal paradigma begin to die in this life. Unconsciously they will become "living deads". Thus the Sufis, the mystics of Islam - say these words of wisdom: "Die before you die!" By this they mean that in such people a new conscious orientation should take place which effects so that the consciousness then would much more be connected to the principle of synchronicity instead to causality. This letting go of old tried and true, this giving up of the power principle, of "Where there's a will there's a way!" works like an elixier vitae. Such people begin a second life which falls under the principle of synchronicity. ... which means that they begin to let theirselves be lead by coincidences and to take assistance from their dreams in order to learn to understand wherein the way of life further leads. In greatly critical moments synchronicities come to pass which show the real goal of life, which can not be found by will and causalistic thinking.
Experience shows that such synchronicities work negentropically, meaning that they build new psychic energy fields out of which further new life possibilities emerge. People grow in this manner and those who take their dreams and synchronicities seriously have a chance to lead a life filled with a new and deeper meaning. Thereby they have simultaneously overcome the paradigma of causality while entering into a new age of synchronicity which appears on the horizon of the new millennium.
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: Middleman]
#7504317 - 10/10/07 06:14 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The problem is that the human brain is very good at finding patterns. Do an experiment: pick a different number between 10 and 100 each morning and go through the day trying to make that number significant. You will start to notice all kinds of oddities from the change you get back, to phone numbers you dial, to sports scores, etc. Is the number that was picked somehow special? Probably not.
I'm not claiming that there is no synchronicity in life. I don't really know. What I do know is that it is very easy to fool oneself into seeing patterns and giving them worth when they don't really mean anything. Unfortunately, without being able to establish repeatability, it is impossible to know if apparent synchronous events are real or coincidence.
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: Seuss]
#7504572 - 10/10/07 08:32 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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it's so weird that someone posted this, yesterday it happened to me like 8 times. Usually it's with a specific number like all 2's or something, but yesterday it was any random number.
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: Jack Albertson]
#7504768 - 10/10/07 10:19 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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How about this syncronicity I experience two days ago. I didn't have to find a pattern here, and neither will you, because its obvious. The meaning isn't, if there is in fact one. But the probability of this occurring is so minimal...
My roomate and I are having a discussion. He mentions that he's going to drive to Pittsburgh for the weekend, and then we move on to a talk on cancer, and about "what if someone's entire body was cancerous". That night, I put in the next dvd of the X-Files, and the episode took place in Pittsburgh, and it was about a guy who's entire body was made of cancer.
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7504783 - 10/10/07 10:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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PhanTomCat said: I have really witnessed some strange "alignments" with things lately.... It is actually kinda~ neat when some major off the wall "thing" happens like this....! Sometimes it seems as if I am denying something if I just wash my mind of every experienced synchronicity as coincidence.... It would be difficult to figure out the probability of random things like this occurring in a random chaotic world - I am sure.... But damn, what are the chances, or what is the probability of synchronousness happening "for a reason" Vs. "for no reason"....?
Here is what I just had happen (which isn't a REAL big deal).... I popped in a DVD course lecture called "Einstein's Relativity and the Quantum Revolution".... Sat down in my chair and started the 8th lecture "Uncommon Sense - Stretching Time".... It starts up, and the professor is there with a clock (a non-digital) and a stick (stick = a visual measure of "distance")....
After a few relative minutes ( ), I looked at the time on HIS clock.... Then I looked at MY DVR clock that is connected and synchronized to Comcast's servers.... My clock was 20-25 seconds faster than the clock on the lecture DVD.....  When mine hit 11:36, 20 seconds later the clock on DVD hit 11:36 (neither said AM nor PM)....
 Now, I think the clocks being so close in time was pretty neat just by itself.... But the added fact that a large part of the premise of the topic was also about time itself, that pretty much made it double-neat for me....! 
Sssooo, when does synchronicity actually "mean" something to you....?
>^;;^<
You are just noticing life. Everything is a sign if you are awake to see it. That's because everything is everything.
Take the Tarot, I-Ching and such. The reason that they "work" is that every card lay out or coin toss is talking about the same exact thing. The human question is not complex and everything leads to it. So these cards and coins help us to pay attention to the question that is always on our minds. Our relationship to life.
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: Icelander]
#7504819 - 10/10/07 10:38 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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You are just noticing life. Everything is a sign if you are awake to see it. That's because everything is everything.
Take the Tarot, I-Ching and such. The reason that they "work" is that every card lay out or coin toss is talking about the same exact thing. The human question is not complex and everything leads to it. So these cards and coins help us to pay attention to the question that is always on our minds. Our relationship to life.
Very true. In fact, I would only be surprised and start believing if any Tarot card or my birth chart foretells that i would become a creature or heavens, that i would undergo a spontaneous sex-change..
Otherwise it is just the same routine stuff..you would do well in life, you would meet an untimely death, all related to everyday human concerns
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: shakercee]
#7505202 - 10/10/07 12:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Synchronicity means something, when you believe in it and put your will behind it.
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: ThePeruvianTorch]
#7505824 - 10/10/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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ThePeruvianTorch said: I think it always means something
So do I.
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#7505845 - 10/10/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well everything means something. It just might not mean what you want it to mean.
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: Icelander]
#7506186 - 10/10/07 04:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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It means that 2012 is real sucka. Believe it - and you shall be [strike]freed[/strike] misguided.
I also feel like sometimes it's sort of presumptuous to write things off as coincidence. Last year after I stopped going to school and had the whole winter to do whatever, I was thinking one day that I'd really just like a place out in the middle of nowhere to hang out and write and stuff. Just a passing thought, right? The next day I was hitching rides up the 5 and got picked up from this super nice guy who sold horses all across the country. We were bullshittin for awhile and then he mentioned that he'd recently bought a ranch in the WA Cascades and indicated that he was looking for someone to housesit through the winter. I shook my head and started laughing. Everything just made so much sense right then. I ended up not taking him up on it though because I wasn't 'supposed' to leave the state at the time. Too bad and good thing not all passing thoughts have this effect on my life. Er do/don't they?
The thing about synchronicity and coincidence, is that to view a certain event as one or the other in absolute terms (I don't really think there could be a grey area between them) kind of assumes that ALL events are either/or - because all events are related. Is absolutely everything that happens coincidence? Or is absolutely everything that happens synchronous?
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: Seuss]
#7506288 - 10/10/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seuss said: The problem is that the human brain is very good at finding patterns. Do an experiment: pick a different number between 10 and 100 each morning and go through the day trying to make that number significant. You will start to notice all kinds of oddities from the change you get back, to phone numbers you dial, to sports scores, etc. Is the number that was picked somehow special? Probably not.
Yes, I see this with certain sets of numbers that have had a part in my life.... 112, 517, 455, 278 - these four sets of numbers (separately) seem to come up a lot in my life, and I do notice them because of the significance to my past.... It is not something I am astonished with, but it really is difficult not to notice because the memory is sparked.... And I am thinking that if I had a connection with a different set of numbers in my past, I would also take notice of them....
The example I gave in my opening post was kind of a synchronicity, then with a "confirmation" slapped on top of it for good measure.... At least it could be taken that way.... With that example, I just thought it was neutral yet neat, and couldn't think of a meaning to sticky to it....
But there have been other "synchronism's" lately in my life - when talking about deeper subjects such as life and it's meaning.... When that "confirmation", or "third degree" of a pretty specific synchronicity takes place, and the timing is nothing short of uncanny, it sure does make me wonder....
Is it just too easy to label as "coincidence" and such and shrug it off....? It is kind of difficult to think in terms of "What IF...?" - if you have already predetermined that it is never anything, and never means anything....  How many specific coincidences with specific timing have to happen before it is no longer just a "coincidence"....?
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: Icelander]
#7506311 - 10/10/07 05:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Icelander said: You are just noticing life. Everything is a sign if you are awake to see it. That's because everything is everything. . Take the Tarot, I-Ching and such. The reason that they "work" is that every card lay out or coin toss is talking about the same exact thing. The human question is not complex and everything leads to it. So these cards and coins help us to pay attention to the question that is always on our minds. Our relationship to life.
Yes, this makes a lot of sense.... Logically.... It is difficult to see it other ways when I latch onto this concept.... But it is applying sense and logic to "LIFE", which "life" really doesn't make a lot of sense in itself.... In thinking, feeling, emotional, experiencing, wonderment, human terms anyways.... Is "Logic" the only reason we are here....?
>^;;^<
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: Grok]
#7506336 - 10/10/07 05:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Grok said: The thing about synchronicity and coincidence, is that to view a certain event as one or the other in absolute terms (I don't really think there could be a grey area between them) kind of assumes that ALL events are either/or - because all events are related. Is absolutely everything that happens coincidence? Or is absolutely everything that happens synchronous?
This is exactly what I am "struggling" with - at least with my thoughts lately.... It is one of those questions that can't really be definitively and objectively answered or proven.... So, at what point can one confidently choose a "side"....?
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7506468 - 10/10/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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So, at what point can one confidently choose a "side"....?
When one understands the nature of probability, the large amounts of events and numbers that we are exposed to daily (from which to choose our coincidences) and how the human brain works in recognizing patterns, then the correct 'side' becomes obvious.
If you were alone in the middle of the Antarctic, you can bet the amount of synchronicities would diminish dramatically; probably approaching zero.
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Re: When does synchronicity actually "mean" something....? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#7506569 - 10/10/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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What if I told you that I have a course on DVD called "What are the chances? - Probability Made Clear" (which I have not had a chance to watch yet), and another course coming called "Understanding the Brain" (I can't wait till I get to the music portion!), and I told you that I have bought land out in the middle of the Antarctic so I can go live there in peace without any synchronicity....?

Of course, only the top two are true.... And I don't fully understand the nature of probability.... Yet.... But, the Antarctic still does have clouds, and shapes in the snow, and stuff like that which could still be picked up on....
Maybe that is why ignorance truly is bliss.... The more you understand in a logical sense, the more your throw out the glimmer of possibility for the "magic" in that which we do not understand....
But then again, sometimes it is the timing of things in themselves that are the "magic" part.... And that can't always be so easily explained away.... 
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