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Re: Mushroom Ban NL [Re: kotik]
    #7718471 - 12/05/07 04:41 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

bump for updates? I can't find info anywhere - erowid, google news, and the place I would expect at least something.. the shroomery?!?!

I am shocked that there has been little to no mention of this whatsoever on this entire site. Seems like a pretty big issue to me, but maybe I'm just seeing it differently.

Either way, I'm going to find out what's happening myself, even if I have to buy a ticket to fly over and investigate.


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Re: Mushroom Ban NL [Re: kotik]
    #7718960 - 12/05/07 09:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

As fas as I know, they quietly let it simmer down, because they realized they weren't going to do it. :wink:


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Re: Mushroom Ban NL [Re: kotik]
    #7718965 - 12/05/07 09:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i heard about this somewhere possibly cnn or the nightly news. its a shame but you can't have mushrooms be legal if foreigners are coming to your country to buy them and then they end up hurting/killing themselves or other people. it is a shame but i honestly can't disagree with the decision.


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Re: Mushroom Ban NL [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7719129 - 12/05/07 10:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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i heard about this somewhere possibly cnn or the nightly news. its a shame but you can't have mushrooms be legal if foreigners are coming to your country to buy them and then they end up hurting/killing themselves or other people. it is a shame but i honestly can't disagree with the decision.




More foreigners go into other countries and die from aspirin than mushrooms. Well, more people die in general from aspirin than mushrooms, anyways.

So.... you might want to put everything in perspective before you agree with a government needlessly controlling your life. :wink:


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Re: Mushroom Ban NL [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7719586 - 12/05/07 12:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

its not that they are overdosing its that they are doing stupid things like jumping off bridges, out of windows etc etc in public. its kind of like drinking and driving laws.


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Re: Mushroom Ban NL [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7719724 - 12/05/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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its not that they are overdosing its that they are doing stupid things like jumping off bridges, out of windows etc etc in public. its kind of like drinking and driving laws.




Yes, but it isn't like prohibition of alcohol, and that is the point.

The mayor had previously proposed a plan that would place regulations on mushrooms, such that there would be a three-day waiting period. That, of course, would work to alleviate concerns of unfortunate abuse of mushrooms, coupled with the fact that educational reference material about consuming mushroom would be provided in the meantime. There would be an age requirement, to discourage usage by underage tourists, which the waiting period would also work against.

They sell 500,000 doses of mushrooms in a year, that kind of money speaks. :wink:


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Re: Mushroom Ban NL [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7719955 - 12/05/07 02:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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its not that they are overdosing its that they are doing stupid things like jumping off bridges, out of windows etc etc in public. its kind of like drinking and driving laws.




actually, as far as i know, the girl (that was underage anyways) was never confirmed to have been on mushrooms. It was a rumor, that was never verified - yet legislation was passed anyways.


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Re: Mushroom Ban NL [Re: kotik]
    #7720244 - 12/05/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

what should they do to resolve the problem? mandate that everyone have a trip sitter? unless that happened then there will continue to be cases of people accidentally killing themselves while they are tripping balls. i don't know if you have ever tripped balls but you can't do anything and you can barely function at all.

the reality of the matter is that most people take mushrooms to get "F***ed up" and not for a spiritual reason. many people still take mushrooms without doing much research beforehand. selling an incredibly powerful drug to people who do not know what to expect especially if they are vacation to a foreign country just sounds like a bad idea doesn't it? now, granted, if everyone visited the shroomery before they tried mushrooms this kind of stuff would not be a problem.


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Re: Mushroom Ban NL [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7720537 - 12/05/07 04:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

what problem? there are far more people hospitalized due to alcohol than any other substance in the amsterdam (and I would assume the world).

"selling an incredibly powerful drug to people who do not know what to expect especially if they are vacation to a foreign country just sounds like a bad idea doesn't it? "

uhh, so is getting drunk in a foreign country.


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Re: Mushroom Ban NL [Re: kotik]
    #7721658 - 12/05/07 08:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So, they arent going to ban Mushrooms? If so they are brilliant.


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Re: Mushroom Ban NL [Re: newlife]
    #7721910 - 12/05/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ill be sure to post an update in a couple weeks.


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Re: Mushroom Ban NL [Re: kotik]
    #7722189 - 12/05/07 10:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

actually in my experience getting drunk and stoned in a foreign country is pretty fun. i might have even of tripped if i could have got my hands on something. however i would of had someone with me so even if i was freaking out the entire 8-10 hours i wouldn't kill myself.

also dont' take my arguments a pro alcohol arguments. besides tobacco alcohol should be illegal instead of weed and even hallucinogens in the U.S. imo. however any legalization of hallucinogenic drugs should be heavily regulated and monitored to keep people from hurting themselves on accident. possibly getting a prescription for their use after you pass a psych test or something. honestly i don't know but free access to such heavy drugs is not a good thing, ie alcohol and tobacco.


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Re: Mushroom Ban NL [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7732406 - 12/08/07 09:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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As fas as I know, they quietly let it simmer down, because they realized they weren't going to do it. :wink:



Let's hope so, but I don't think that will happen. The wrong ppl are in power in Holland you see.
Anyway, here's an update:

http://www.procare.nl/index.php?article_id=40

So shrooms will remain legal in Holland for a couple of months. Let's hope some politicians change their mind, I don't consider this likely though.


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Re: Mushroom Ban NL [Re: Nebula]
    #7732414 - 12/08/07 09:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

thanks for the update!  This is good news (well, within context that is) :mushroom2:


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