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Re: Is my fish tank heater too weak? [Re: anomaly420]
    #7506221 - 10/10/07 04:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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A tub-in-tub incubator is a nice thing to have. It really does speed it up. 80-82 is ideal... because there is some internal heat produced by the mycellium which raises the internal temperatures of the jars by like 4 - 6 degrees or so. You don't want the internal temperature of the substrate to exceed 86. I have a tub-in-tub that stays mostly at 82 and the growth is very quick. Check petsmart for good aquarium heaters that you can adjust..



I agree that colonization in the ideal temperature range is better, under ideal circumstances. However, RR and the other members of the anti-incubator crowd have a point ... it adds an unneeded level of complexity to many cultivations and requires careful monitoring for the correct temperature.

I'd say, if your room's temperature is reliably at or above about 70, you might want to consider going without the incubator to keep your life that much simpler.


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Re: Is my fish tank heater too weak? [Re: NexusOne]
    #7506725 - 10/10/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

This is a awesome discussion, not that the other ones of the same nature are not.

We've covered incubation temps, but what about fruiting temps? They have to be higher, right? Can you just get by, by raising the humidity (i.e. in a FC)?

I'm kind of impatient. My cat is meowing for some shroomies for the holidays.

She was thinking of using the 'heat bomb' tek, here, to get that temp a bit higher in the FC. Especially because it's been said that cooler air doesn't hold humidity as well. Is this true?


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Re: Is my fish tank heater too weak? [Re: buggas]
    #7506777 - 10/10/07 07:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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buggas said:
We've covered incubation temps, but what about fruiting temps? They have to be higher, right? Can you just get by, by raising the humidity (i.e. in a FC)?



My understanding is that fruiting temperatures (typically 75ish) should be below incubating temperatures (80ish). Assuming that the popular wisdom is true and the perfect fruiting temperature is 74-76, then it should be only slightly above room temperature, and you're probably fine fruiting without a heat source. I have heard of people placing their terrarium inside their incubator to warm it up (obviously only necessary if your environment is not well heated to begin with).

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buggas said:
She was thinking of using the 'heat bomb' tek, here, to get that temp a bit higher in the FC. Especially because it's been said that cooler air doesn't hold humidity as well. Is this true?



Absolutely. Warm air holds a lot more humidity than cold air does, but anything above room temperature is not necessary (and could actually have a negative effect on your growth, for all I know).


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Re: Is my fish tank heater too weak? [Re: NexusOne]
    #7584411 - 11/01/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I put an aqua heater in my chamber/incubator and the difference was insane. I had a colony of myc that went from 15% colonization to 85% overnight because of the heater.

Also, some say heat pads get too hot and don't have a proper thermostat to regulate.

Just get an aqua heater and make a heat bomb. It will work in your incubator or FC. It's like a small portable thermostat controlled heater that fits in a shoe box.


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Re: Is my fish tank heater too weak? [Re: buggas]
    #7584435 - 11/01/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

the heater should say how much water it can heat.


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