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Too much moisture in my tub? (UPDATED PICS)
    #7504924 - 10/10/07 11:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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wbs spawned to coir/manure/blood meal exactly 1 week ago.

So my question relates to the amount of moisture i see in my double tub. Im not so much concerned about the moisture on the walls of the tub (i did put down a garbage bag first) but more about the water on the surface of my colonizing substrate (coir). there are visible water droplets all over the surface of the sub.

Its colonizing nicely and i was planning on casing it today, which is why i opened it for a sec. to be able to really see how far along it was. But with all that moisture in there im a bit worried. It could defenitely colonize a few more days before i case it. its not fully colonized yet.

So is the excess water on the surface gonna be ok? will it effect how moist i should make my casing layer? should i make it a bit dryer to make up for it?  the myc looks pretty fluffy. not very rhizo.

first grow by the way. thanx folks. :cool:


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: toadstooly]
    #7504962 - 10/10/07 11:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, that's too much moisture. It shouldn't accumulate on your casing.

Punch a few air holes around the sides, should help regulate RH.

Transpiration is a major pinning trigger, so yes, you are correct, if it is too humid in your FC, the casing will not fruit properly, if at all.


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7505004 - 10/10/07 12:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

it has holes. I did it as per wronguy's double tub tek. 2 holes in bottom tub, 2 in top, packed with polyfill.

The room the tub was in was a bit warmer then it probably should have been. I moved it to another room thats a bit cooler.

anyone think thats the problem? just a bit too hot?


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: toadstooly]
    #7505018 - 10/10/07 12:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Not enough holes I would guess, or not large enough holes.

Is there condensation around the holes on the inside? There really shouldn't be if air is continuously moving in and out of those holes.

My foaf has had good luck with larger holes on one side, and smaller an the other, seems to help create an imbalance of air pressure, which promotes CAE, (continuous air exchange)


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7505070 - 10/10/07 12:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I meant, 4 holes in each tub. my bad. 2 on each side.

The tub is incubating. So its not supposed to be getting lots of FAE. its covered with a big blanket to block out light and limit FAE. the bottom holes are lightly covered to allow some co2 out.

from what i read in the tek, my tubs are constructed right. So its got to have something to do with my conditions.

I got the coir to field consistency before mixing it with the spawn so i dont think its too wet?


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: toadstooly]
    #7505162 - 10/10/07 12:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i don't know man, i'm in the same boat. my shit is all covered with water. i've got 6 holes in a small tub. maybe pull out the polyfill for a little while to let out some of the moisture? i'm afraid i'm not going to get any pins :confused:


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: Iolaa]
    #7505186 - 10/10/07 12:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Try bigger holes...and frequent fanning...also, your casing may have been too wet when you applied it, research proper water content in your casings, generally about 50-70% moisture.


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7505220 - 10/10/07 12:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah, that's too much moisture. It shouldn't accumulate on your casing.






It isn't cased yet... it's fine. I've had water droplets on my substrate. I wouldn't worry.


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: veilbreaker]
    #7505232 - 10/10/07 12:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Captain Cubensis said:
Yeah, that's too much moisture. It shouldn't accumulate on your casing.






It isn't cased yet... it's fine. I've had water droplets on my substrate. I wouldn't worry.




thank you. someone who read the post. lol.

anyone else? would this effect colonization in anyway? should i try to wait to see if it clears up a bit now that its in a cooler room, Before i decide to case it?


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: toadstooly]
    #7505263 - 10/10/07 01:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

your poly fill might be packed in to tight..I had this happen to me
also the RH in your area that youi live will also affect this


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: Vegan]
    #7505277 - 10/10/07 01:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i wasn't going to case mine....i read one tek where somebody didn't and it turned out fine...guess i am now though...

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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: Iolaa]
    #7505294 - 10/10/07 01:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Open water on your substrate isn't good, obviously, that's why I assumed you meant the casing.

If you have open water on your substrate, then it will get contams for sure!


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: Vegan]
    #7505297 - 10/10/07 01:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I was thinking about the polyfill being in too tight. i pulled it out a bit just to loosen it.

I do live in a very hot and especially humid area.


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7505302 - 10/10/07 01:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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If you have open water on your substrate, then it will get contams for sure!




He's talking about droplets, not lakes.


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7505306 - 10/10/07 01:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Open water on your substrate isn't good, obviously, that's why I assumed you meant the casing.

If you have open water on your substrate, then it will get contams for sure!




its not like theres a puddle on the substrate. Im talking about it glistening like crazy from moisture. If you look close you see lots of little droplets of water. Probably where they fell from the top of the tub. The moisture from the sides goes down the sides and winds up on the other side/bottom of the garbage bag.


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: veilbreaker]
    #7505317 - 10/10/07 01:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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If you have open water on your substrate, then it will get contams for sure!




He's talking about droplets, not lakes.




thank you.

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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: toadstooly]
    #7505322 - 10/10/07 01:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah, that's too much moisture. It shouldn't accumulate on your casing.






It isn't cased yet... it's fine. I've had water droplets on my substrate. I wouldn't worry.




thank you. someone who read the post. lol.

anyone else? would this effect colonization in anyway? should i try to wait to see if it clears up a bit now that its in a cooler room, Before i decide to case it?







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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: toadstooly]
    #7505352 - 10/10/07 01:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry, just trying to help, no need to get hostile.

Damp, moist, wet, soaked, all have different connotations.


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7505358 - 10/10/07 01:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

hostile? :lol:  where was I?

I thought i was clear, if i wasnt, my apologies. Just lookin for some info is all. No drama here. :smile:


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: toadstooly]
    #7505419 - 10/10/07 01:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

cool, cool, no worries mate!


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: toadstooly]
    #7507909 - 10/11/07 06:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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toadstooly said:
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Captain Cubensis said:
Yeah, that's too much moisture. It shouldn't accumulate on your casing.






It isn't cased yet... it's fine. I've had water droplets on my substrate. I wouldn't worry.




thank you. someone who read the post. lol.

anyone else? would this effect colonization in anyway? should i try to wait to see if it clears up a bit now that its in a cooler room, Before i decide to case it?










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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: toadstooly]
    #7508003 - 10/11/07 07:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's normal for a bit of moisture to build up during colonization. It's the moisture that was in the substrate. Next time, you could probably use a tad less water in your substrate mix.

If it's ready to case, you can put the casing material right over the water droplets on the substrate. The casing will absorb them and it will all equal out.
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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7508215 - 10/11/07 09:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

awesome. That makes me feel more confident about the situation.

Would you make the casing layer just as wet as you normally would? or go a tad dryer?


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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: toadstooly]
    #7508563 - 10/11/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Too much moisture in my tub? [Re: toadstooly]
    #7513321 - 10/13/07 07:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Looks good! Case it


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