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Post a pic of your stash box!
#7504690 - 10/10/07 09:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes it's that time again. Time for another STASHBOX AND ACCESSORIES thread!
A stashbox is the symbol of collection, connosoir, and above all else, a well organized drug user! It is allmost as important as the paraphenalia.
Unfortunatly I dont have a digi-cam. So a verbal discription will have to do
The box is a mahogany box from the 20's. Within it are: -Glass Bubbler -Assorted Papers - Zig Zag slow burning, and Rizla blue... my favorite. -Jar w/ 1/2 oz of penis envies -Metal Grinder - complete with sifter and rebel flag etching -Several Condoms -Digi Scale _Extra baggies. Never leave the house with more than you can eat! _Xanies -and en empty stash jar with money in it, soon to be exchaged after probation
please post pics of stash box porn, a rare fetish of the drug culture...!
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: moon_glue]
#7504708 - 10/10/07 09:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Eh, isn't it dangerous to post pics of your stash? I don't know if it is that's why I'm asking first.
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: Maverick]
#7504712 - 10/10/07 09:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i dont think so? peolpe post pics of their shit all the time?
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: moon_glue]
#7504718 - 10/10/07 09:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok, i'm just paranoid.
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: moon_glue]
#7504721 - 10/10/07 09:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i don't have time to post a picture right now... but i'll describe it and it's contents. it's a soft travel bathroom caddy bag thing that you keep your toiletries in when you travel. it's not very cool, but it serves its purpose.
in it, i've got a couple different rolling papers (normal, clear, wildberry); several plastic tubes i got from my old lab job (one with stems, one with salvia 20x i've barely broken into over a 2yr span, and an empty one or two; a small pyrex test tube filled with bagseeds; a little joint roller thing for rolling those joints that look more like cigarettes; a small digi scale; a small (like 1.5") plastic bowl i use when weighing stuff that's in small peices; some screens; and a couple of pen shells and bottle caps that were at one point or another used for light-bulb vaporizers.
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: Maverick]
#7504724 - 10/10/07 09:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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stash box porn? anyone
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: moon_glue]
#7504807 - 10/10/07 10:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have:
matchsticks
yo-yos
jacks
bouncy balls
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: moon_glue]
#7504816 - 10/10/07 10:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good idea. But it is all stashed away.. ;p
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: moon_glue] 1
#16104542 - 04/17/12 11:20 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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old thread... but why not? anyone else?

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well here's my weak ass stash

http://imgur.com/IFEzv
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Quote:
GoshAllMighty said: well here's my weak ass stash

http://imgur.com/IFEzv
hahaha nice pipe
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: Ballerium] 1
#16104639 - 04/17/12 11:56 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah, i can see this thread is gonna make me jealous....
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3 of my favs. the one on the left is wooden and the white parts are ivory. that one and the little black one are hand made from india. i put pills in the little one. and the silver one looks pretty cool.
i have a couple small mason jars which have dimensions of 2"x3" inches perfect for for around 5 grams or less, hash too. great to keep in back pack and prevents odor
glass ftw!
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: catboosh] 1
#16105340 - 04/18/12 04:58 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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WTF... all you people have these fancy wooden boxes and shit.
I use a drawer in my desk. I'm not gonna post it because it's not a wooden box. It would fuck up the flow Well, technically the drawer is made of wood. But fuck that shit
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: Shroomism]
#16105347 - 04/18/12 05:03 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yup, same here. I use a $0.10 ziplock baggie that's stuffed in a living room drawer
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: Shroomism]
#16106165 - 04/18/12 10:56 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: WTF... all you people have these fancy wooden boxes and shit.
I use a drawer in my desk. I'm not gonna post it because it's not a wooden box. It would fuck up the flow Well, technically the drawer is made of wood. But fuck that shit
Don't feel bad, I used to use a drawer too..then my dad presented me with a choice of 3 different stash boxes. I still do store some stuff in a drawer though because not everything will fit in my stash box.
I usually store my weed in this sealable stash jar, but I haven't had any weed to put in it for months now. 
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: Ballerium] 1
#16106181 - 04/18/12 11:01 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I use a lockbox as my stash box.
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: LySergic D]
#16106217 - 04/18/12 11:18 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I got my RC's in clear vials stored in a grey goose shaker stored in a wooden cabinet with a dial lock on it. Cactus growing in my room and I ran out of mushies. I don't got that fancy ass 'fear and loathing stash box' you guys have
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: LySergic D]
#16106218 - 04/18/12 11:19 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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i always wanted a nice stash box, but yeah i just use a drawer in my desk.... i have a little box in the drawer but its caked with ask and broken
cool stash boxes tho
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#16106234 - 04/18/12 11:23 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cool stash boxes.
Love the naked women pipe
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#16106237 - 04/18/12 11:23 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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This thread has inspired me to get a kick ass wooden stash box.
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: Lipa Kreepa]
#16106268 - 04/18/12 11:31 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I started using one of those mini Tupperware containers like this

It's airtight, which is important where I live. I have to keep down the smell.
Back home though, I have this beautiful little maple box that my grandfather made and my mom painted this awesome trippy design on it. I'm pretty sure they weren't intending for me to use it like that but I couldn't resist. Everytime you open it, you get this refreshing blast of maple wood and dank bud. I wish I had a picture.
As far as my non-smoking stuff--I keep that well stashed away in hidden corners of my room.
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: the_drummer]
#16107442 - 04/18/12 04:44 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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i used the one all the way to the left for most of my life. i like the skull box just not big enough just got the brass one at a pawn store last week for $10
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: TheDrake]
#16107589 - 04/18/12 05:21 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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they'll never find my drugs in here!!! 
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: TheDrake]
#16108026 - 04/18/12 07:06 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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TheDrake said: i used the one all the way to the left for most of my life. i like the skull box just not big enough just got the brass one at a pawn store last week for $10

that's a nice little stash, Im really loving that orange and yellow pipe too.
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Eventually I'm either going to buy or make a nice stash box, but for now I'm more concerned with getting something to hide small amounts of stuff for car trips.
I have an old survival knife with a hollow handle and a screw on cap that you can stuff matches and fishhooks and other small stuff in. It's not blatantly obvious, but still not covert enough. It's similar to this one, but mine has a compass on the handle cap.

I was thinking maybe I could get one of these bad boys and throw it in my tool bag with a bunch of other bolts. It won't hold much but it looks convincing.
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#16108429 - 04/18/12 08:18 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Buy a bunch of those and put them in a empty box that bolts are sold in.
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: LySergic D]
#16108899 - 04/18/12 09:36 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: jboredone]
#16249720 - 05/18/12 11:38 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
jboredone said:
Quote:
GoshAllMighty said: well here's my weak ass stash

http://imgur.com/IFEzv
hahaha nice pipe
Neat! I though that was a scent burner.
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: LySergic D]
#16249735 - 05/18/12 11:41 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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LySergic D said: Buy a bunch of those and put them in a empty box that bolts are sold in.
Saving up right now.
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: MorphinTime]
#16249880 - 05/18/12 12:16 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just use an empty dutch box i used to go through boxes like crazy i would hand out a dutch with with every gram of bud I sold or charge like a dollar
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I use the top drawer of a a dresser in my closet to keep my stuff, with all my pieces on top of it.
In the drawer is my grinder, large glass jar of vaped weed I'm saving to make some edible out of, small glass jar used to hold my weed, bag of salvia, scale, wax paper I use for pressing kief into hash, baggie full of glass screens.
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: x Ju x]
#16252628 - 05/19/12 12:42 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is my stash box right now. I don't have any drugs unfortunately.

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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: withoutawire]
#16252645 - 05/19/12 12:47 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I can't get over the color man. Glad you like it though
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: MorphinTime]
#16252672 - 05/19/12 01:05 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I shot 250 rounds through it. I was going to get a 1911 now I think im just going to get a second five-seven.
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: withoutawire]
#16252705 - 05/19/12 01:19 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dual wielding

Is step 1 in becoming a badass
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: MorphinTime]
#16252708 - 05/19/12 01:21 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I want to have a range pistol and then the other pistol put 1000 rounds through it and keep it as my just in case pistol.
I'll also need a 9mm. Ah fuck I am turning into such a gun addict LOL.
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: withoutawire]
#16252721 - 05/19/12 01:23 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would be a gun addict if I could afford to be.
Just found out my younger brother got my dad's .30-06 and will probably also get his blackhawk .44 mag
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: MorphinTime]
#16252730 - 05/19/12 01:25 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Go shoot it with him. People love showing off their shit
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: withoutawire]
#16252742 - 05/19/12 01:29 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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The blackhawk is fun, but I can't hit shit with it. My brother is jealous of my .270 though. "His" .30-06 is probably the most accurate out-of-the-box long gun in the world however.
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: MorphinTime]
#16252756 - 05/19/12 01:33 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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More accurate than the intervention in .408? 
I prefer .270 over 30-06 too. It flys much flatter and if you can't kill a deer with a .270 at 250 yards then 30-06 isn't going to make it any easier.
If I'm hunting elk I use .300win mag. 168g hornaday super max tipped round. Costs like $70 for 20 rounds though.
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: withoutawire]
#16252772 - 05/19/12 01:41 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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withoutawire said: More accurate than the intervention in .408? 
I prefer .270 over 30-06 too. It flys much flatter and if you can't kill a deer with a .270 at 250 yards then 30-06 isn't going to make it any easier.
If I'm hunting elk I use .300win mag. 168g hornaday super max tipped round. Costs like $70 for 20 rounds though.
Yeah, I've noticed the jump in .300 win mag prices and I don't even own a gun that shoots that round 
I actually prefer a .280 Ackley improved or a .284 over a .270, it's just what I've got. This .30-06 though, you can punch bullets through the same hole at 200 yards and it's had no work done on it. It's a late 80's Remington Model 700. I can't believe my dad is giving it to my brother.
Edit: educate me about this .408
Edited by MorphinTime (05/19/12 01:51 AM)
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: MorphinTime]
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he .408 Cheyenne Tactical (or .408 CheyTac) is a specialized rimless, bottlenecked, centerfire cartridge for military long-range sniper rifles that was developed by Dr. John D. Taylor and machinist William O. Wordman. It was designed with a possible military need in mind for a cartridge for both the anti-personnel, anti-sniper and anti-materiel role with a (supersonic) precision range of 2,200 yards (2,000 m). It is hoped it will fill in a supposed market niche for long-range cartridges and is offered as a competitor to the most common military NATO long-range service cartridges .338 Lapua Magnum and the .50 BMG.
The .338 Lapua is a BADASS super fast round too. It flys flatter and at 250-300 grains it puts people DOWN.
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Ballistic Coefficient of the Jamison 419-grain (27.2 g) projectile
Cheyenne Tactical claimed a Doppler radar-measured G1 ballistic coefficient (BC) for the Lost River Ballistic Technologies/Jamison International 419-grain (27.15 g) bullet of roughly 0.934, though this number has been disputed by a number of knowledgeable sources. Extreme Firearms claimed the G1 BC of the same .408 CheyTac projectile to average 0.945 to 2000 meters and it drops to the low 0.900s to 2800 meters.[6] The .408 CheyTac projectile remains supersonic up to 2,300 yards (2,100 m) according to Extreme Firearms. CheyTac LLC claims that the 26.95 gram (419 gr) projectile has a supersonic range of 2,200+ yards (2,011+ m) at 'standard air conditions'.[7] The average ballistic coefficient of the 419 grain (27.15 g) is 0.945 over 3,825 yards (3,500 m). Jamison International states the G1 BC of this bullet on their website currently (2009) at 0.940.
The above variations can be explained by differences in the ambient air density used for these BC statements or differing range-speed measurements on which the stated G1 BC averages are based. The BC changes during a projectiles flight and stated BC's are always averages for particular range-speed regimes. Some more explanation about the transient nature of a projectile's G1 BC (it rises above or gets under a stated average value for a certain speed-range regime) during flight can be found at the external ballistics article. This article implies that knowing how a BC was established is almost as important as knowing the stated BC value itself. Balanced-flight / controlled-spin projectile
Lost River Ballistic Technologies (statement of Mr. Warren Jensen) stated that "the .408 CheyTac is the first bullet/rifle system that utilizes what they call a balanced flight projectile. To achieve balanced flight the linear drag has to be balanced with the rotational drag to keep the very fine nose (meplat) of the bullet pointed directly into the oncoming air. It should result in very little precession and yaw at extreme range and allows accurate flight back through the transonic region. This is hard to achieve for small arms projectiles. Mathematically you are at a great disadvantage trying to achieve balanced flight with a lead core non mono metal bullet. The rotational mass/surface area ratio is too high."
The balanced flight projectile patent can be found at the US Patent Office, Controlled spin projectile, US PAT No. 6,629,669. According to the patent a projectile engraved and launched according to the teachings of the patented invention should decelerate from supersonic flight through transonic to subsonic in a stable and predictable manner effective to a range beyond 3000 yards (2,743 m). It implies that amongst several other preconditions the rifle barrel has to have specific rifling dimensions to achieve a desired amount of axial air drag on the bullets surface, which reduces the bullets spinrate to achieve balanced flight. The patent does not account for normally occurring differences in air density. More about balanced flight can also be found in the CheyTac Information Papers.[7]
The Balanced Flight/Controlled Spin Projectile bullet patent has been questioned/disputed by the German physicist Lutz Möller.[8] Mr. Möller realized balanced flight has to do with the nature of spin stabilized flight and scale of parameters. There were projectiles produced prior to the patent that remain stable through the transonic flight regime. This is a consequence of the spin deceleration and forward deceleration of the projectile being similar enough not to cause undesirable precession and yaw during the transonic flight phase. The main parameter for achieving stable transonic transition is controlling the drag coefficients (Cd) and forward velocity loss around Mach 1 and to a lesser degree controlling the spin deceleration. In other words, any bullet with appropriate drag behaviour around Mach 1 and mass (distribution) will do exactly what the balanced flight projectile patent states.
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: withoutawire]
#16252875 - 05/19/12 02:18 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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he .408 Cheyenne Tactical (or .408 CheyTac) is a specialized rimless, bottlenecked, centerfire cartridge for military long-range sniper rifles that was developed by Dr. John D. Taylor and machinist William O. Wordman. It was designed with a possible military need in mind for a cartridge for both the anti-personnel, anti-sniper and anti-materiel role with a (supersonic) precision range of 2,200 yards (2,000 m). It is hoped it will fill in a supposed market niche for long-range cartridges and is offered as a competitor to the most common military NATO long-range service cartridges .338 Lapua Magnum and the .50 BMG.
The .338 Lapua is a BADASS super fast round too. It flys flatter and at 250-300 grains it puts people DOWN.
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Ballistic Coefficient of the Jamison 419-grain (27.2 g) projectile
Cheyenne Tactical claimed a Doppler radar-measured G1 ballistic coefficient (BC) for the Lost River Ballistic Technologies/Jamison International 419-grain (27.15 g) bullet of roughly 0.934, though this number has been disputed by a number of knowledgeable sources. Extreme Firearms claimed the G1 BC of the same .408 CheyTac projectile to average 0.945 to 2000 meters and it drops to the low 0.900s to 2800 meters.[6] The .408 CheyTac projectile remains supersonic up to 2,300 yards (2,100 m) according to Extreme Firearms. CheyTac LLC claims that the 26.95 gram (419 gr) projectile has a supersonic range of 2,200+ yards (2,011+ m) at 'standard air conditions'.[7] The average ballistic coefficient of the 419 grain (27.15 g) is 0.945 over 3,825 yards (3,500 m). Jamison International states the G1 BC of this bullet on their website currently (2009) at 0.940.
The above variations can be explained by differences in the ambient air density used for these BC statements or differing range-speed measurements on which the stated G1 BC averages are based. The BC changes during a projectiles flight and stated BC's are always averages for particular range-speed regimes. Some more explanation about the transient nature of a projectile's G1 BC (it rises above or gets under a stated average value for a certain speed-range regime) during flight can be found at the external ballistics article. This article implies that knowing how a BC was established is almost as important as knowing the stated BC value itself. Balanced-flight / controlled-spin projectile
Lost River Ballistic Technologies (statement of Mr. Warren Jensen) stated that "the .408 CheyTac is the first bullet/rifle system that utilizes what they call a balanced flight projectile. To achieve balanced flight the linear drag has to be balanced with the rotational drag to keep the very fine nose (meplat) of the bullet pointed directly into the oncoming air. It should result in very little precession and yaw at extreme range and allows accurate flight back through the transonic region. This is hard to achieve for small arms projectiles. Mathematically you are at a great disadvantage trying to achieve balanced flight with a lead core non mono metal bullet. The rotational mass/surface area ratio is too high."
The balanced flight projectile patent can be found at the US Patent Office, Controlled spin projectile, US PAT No. 6,629,669. According to the patent a projectile engraved and launched according to the teachings of the patented invention should decelerate from supersonic flight through transonic to subsonic in a stable and predictable manner effective to a range beyond 3000 yards (2,743 m). It implies that amongst several other preconditions the rifle barrel has to have specific rifling dimensions to achieve a desired amount of axial air drag on the bullets surface, which reduces the bullets spinrate to achieve balanced flight. The patent does not account for normally occurring differences in air density. More about balanced flight can also be found in the CheyTac Information Papers.[7]
The Balanced Flight/Controlled Spin Projectile bullet patent has been questioned/disputed by the German physicist Lutz Möller.[8] Mr. Möller realized balanced flight has to do with the nature of spin stabilized flight and scale of parameters. There were projectiles produced prior to the patent that remain stable through the transonic flight regime. This is a consequence of the spin deceleration and forward deceleration of the projectile being similar enough not to cause undesirable precession and yaw during the transonic flight phase. The main parameter for achieving stable transonic transition is controlling the drag coefficients (Cd) and forward velocity loss around Mach 1 and to a lesser degree controlling the spin deceleration. In other words, any bullet with appropriate drag behaviour around Mach 1 and mass (distribution) will do exactly what the balanced flight projectile patent states.

Ya I know about the .338 Lapua but that .408 is news to me. Thanks for the info . This is some very cool stuff!
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Re: Post a pic of your stash box! [Re: withoutawire]
#16252881 - 05/19/12 02:19 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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withoutawire said: I shot 250 rounds through it. I was going to get a 1911 now I think im just going to get a second five-seven.

Get some AP ammo for that bad boy!
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