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Panic attacks...gone? I want to trip
#7503913 - 10/10/07 12:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hello fellow(s) !
All right well I posted a while back about an experience I had with pot, which I decided later was a panic attack...not certain but pretty sure. The thing that bothers me most about these experiences is the feel of things becoming unhinged, reality dissipating, my consciousness escaping, etc....essentially going insane - it's annoying as fuck, pretty much.
I really want to trip again (shrooms (experienced at about 8 times)) and i've never felt this insanity while tripping, even though I've tripped pretty hard. It's different. In fact even before I had my first panic attack from marijuana I had a pretty jaded opinion of it and thought very highly of mushrooms (I consider it gettin down with the divine) so I think I'm relatively safe, but these "insane" thoughts creep up on me sometimes sober, though I can always oust them from my mind. The thing I'm questioning though, is if I go through with this and have a panic attack I'm fucked for the rest of the trip, instead of the hour or so experience that marijuana provides....
I think my best bet is to start low (1g or so) and just get a feel for it again.
It seems like panic attacks are incredibly linked to weed, while I never really hear of anyone suffering from panic attacks on shrooms...and I can see why - I really can't see myself panicing on shrooms because I seem to just "understand it all". I'd probably just say "fuck it, there's so much more to life than this incredibly small emotion that I"m feeling" and just laugh and not think twice...
But who knows. Any ideas? Advice? Opinions?
Thanks much Shroomery
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Re: Panic attacks...gone? I want to trip [Re: fazdazzle]
#7503958 - 10/10/07 12:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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All I've learned from the pro's here is that xanax kills the buzz should you get in trouble (I haven't tried it) I don't know if xanax would work on a pot induced panic attack.
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Re: Panic attacks...gone? I want to trip [Re: fazdazzle]
#7504635 - 10/10/07 09:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I find marijuana causes panic attacks much more readily that mushrooms. Start with a low dose.
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Re: Panic attacks...gone? I want to trip [Re: WhiskeyClone]
#7505113 - 10/10/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've had the whole panic attack on pot and acid because of ego-death, leading to all kinds of anxiety disorders, including generalized and panic attacks, and I even got depressed, and really there's so much more to that story.
Point being, when you alter your brain chemistry, then have some extreme fear in panic, you are only altering it more, which can only cause more problems later, leading to a psychotic break, etc.
I've been down that road. If you are already having problems, you might be predisposed to having these issues, and these drugs can definitely make it worse.
Please be careful, and really think out your decision. Educate yourself on the topic as much as you can first.
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Re: Panic attacks...gone? I want to trip [Re: jonathanseagull]
#7505138 - 10/10/07 12:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah marijuana definitely gave me a lot of anxiety, at one point (where i smoked 4 or 5 times a day) i couldn't even leave my house with out taking xanax to calm me down, i cut back my smoking a lot and now i am pretty much fine.
read this post it will probably be useful. towards the end they start to talk about xanax and mushrooms http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7383452/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1
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Re: Panic attacks...gone? I want to trip [Re: blunt master]
#7510859 - 10/11/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
blunt master said: Yeah marijuana definitely gave me a lot of anxiety, at one point (where i smoked 4 or 5 times a day) i couldn't even leave my house with out taking xanax to calm me down, i cut back my smoking a lot and now i am pretty much fine.
That's pretty fucking crazy! Good to see you got over it.
My panic attacks just give me an incredible fight/flight response (which I think all panic attacks do to a certain extent, if I'm correct?). But I basically just feel like I'm about to get up and sprint away without thinking where I'm going or what I'm doing...so it's not incredibly bad, just unnerving. One time I did go for a run and it helped at least for the time I was running. Other times I played guitar and did yoga which relieved the onslaught temporarily, so I ultimately think it's just that I focus too much on the panic, which is what someone mentioned in the thread that you suggested, blunt master.
One other post really stuck out to me as well:
Originally posted by Novaseer
"Mushrooms are great for anxiety. They show you that YOU are not just the surface worries and emotions, that you are an important piece of god sharing in the beholding of creation.
Pot clouds you up so badly, so its difficult to realize that petty things don't matter. It confuses you.
I'd recommend you stop smoking. Have a hit or two at random parties, if someone offers.
Go into the trip without xanax. You don't need the xanax. Pot is MUCH more likely to cause a panic attack than mushrooms, seriously. The threat of a bad trip is way overblown. As long as you pay attention to set, setting, and dose, bad trips don't happen.
Tough times can happen on mushrooms, but they are ALWAYS valuable lessons, leaving you much better and happier for them. Go into the trip with healing in mind."
The first paragraph was pretty much what I was explaining with my "gettin down with the divine" thing. And second I can definitely relate to. On mushrooms, life is unveiled as the beautiful thing it really is. Now the trick is to bring that magic into sober life...
Really what I was wondering is if correctly termed panic attacks happen really at all on mushrooms? I know people have bad, unnerving or confusing trips, but I've never heard of anyone experiencing the symptoms of a marijuana or other learned situation-based panic attack.
Thanks for the feedback guys.
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Re: Panic attacks...gone? I want to trip [Re: fazdazzle]
#7511709 - 10/13/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, panic attacks can happen on mushrooms, just as any other psychedelic or non-psychedelic. It's not really caused by the drugs, but by your minds misinterpretation of sensory input, thinking you are in danger. This can be enhanced by messed up brain chemistry. So yes, it can happen on and off drugs.
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