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Cyrone
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I thought it was weed but it was actually Salvia...
#7503243 - 10/09/07 09:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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So last weekend was my birthday.. I went from my college campus to my hometown to celebrate for the weekend with some friends. After having an awesome time on Fri and Sat, I sit down in B’s backyard to drink. I drink moderately every weekend, but haven’t smoked weed for a couple months (I try to space it out). One of my friends said he had Salvia at his house, and to liven things up a bit a couple of them went to grab it… I had no intention of smoking it because:
REWIND: A few years ago, I was at another friends’ house with B. We sat in his room, and they smoked some salvia and I think it was my first time witnessing someone on it – I was given some background info on it, but when I saw them react for those 5 minutes, I was scared shitless. Their faces were red, and they collapsed on the bed laughing absolutely hysterically and uncontrollably. I swore I’d never touch that shit, I barely did any drugs at the time (even now, really).
When they got back from his crib, they packed the bowl, got ready, and one guy took 2 long hits. He seemed pretty relaxed the whole time. Then he passes it to B (I had a flashback at this point), and he gets a bit crazy and laughed at some conversations I was having. They decide not to touch it again for 30 mins or so. Then, B asks if I want to smoke some weed, and I think what the hell, it’s my b-day, I’ll get high! So he packs the bowl (keep in mind it was nighttime) and asks me to green it. I take 2 long hits, and pass it to him. They all look at me and one of em said “dude, you just smoked salvia!”
It’s kind of hard to describe the reaction I had. Earlier they were talking about experiences where people … well, hallucinated turning into objects and other scary shit. Since I was drunk, in a way I didn’t think anything bad was going to happen as long as I keep my cool and “fight it off”. I kept saying “I hate you, I hate you, you’re such a dick” repeatedly, holding my hips but laughing all the while. The passage of time was seriously altered, just a frame-by-frame of a really strong high. I kept laughing and I loved it! Especially when I saw a girl taking hits also for her first time; I didn’t feel like I was alone. It was a great environment and started walking around in the yard. Some of my perceptions of salvia were seriously off:
- I saw no hallucinations - I didn’t feel like I was going crazy - It felt just like some really really strong weed to me - I wasn’t turned off by it at all.
In fact, I ended up taking 3 or 4 more hits that evening. It was a good vibe since everyone was tipsy - at one point someone disclosed that it was 20x material. Interestingly I didn’t “see” anything at all, and I’m wondering if this is normal, or are people just overblowing the salvia experience? I told the others and they kept spewing some bullshit about me not holding it in long enough, or “take more hits”.. well if it’s 20x, and I’ve taken 5 hits in 40 mins, I should at least see something! Even when I closed my eyes visuals were minimal. Perhaps it was the 2 cans of beer I had…? Anyway, I’m going to experiment more with this. OVERALL Salvia isn’t that big of a deal ; ff anyone is afraid to do it, don’t be is all I have to say.
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TripityDooDaDay
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Re: I thought it was weed but it was actually Salvia... [Re: Cyrone]
#7503339 - 10/09/07 10:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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OVERALL Salvia isn’t that big of a deal ; ff anyone is afraid to do it, don’t be is all I have to say.
Hang on to that thought a bit. I agree in a way, at least with the second part but still, You haven't scratched the surface of Sally land yet. Keep experimenting. I love salvia.
Really glad you had a good experience on your first. You are way ahead of many. Try it on it's own next. Hit it hard, close your eyes and go for the ride.
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BrandNoob
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Re: I thought it was weed but it was actually Salvia... [Re: Cyrone]
#7504719 - 10/10/07 09:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cyrone said: I told the others and they kept spewing some bullshit about me not holding it in long enough, or “take more hits”.. well if it’s 20x, and I’ve taken 5 hits in 40 mins, I should at least see something!
Your friends are right. Try taking 3 full-bowl-hits in under a minute and a half. In order for you to break through, you need to ingest enough Salvinorum A in a *very* short time. Otherwise your wasting it. Don't smoke it like weed, smoke it like salvia.
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TripityDooDaDay
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Re: I thought it was weed but it was actually Salvia... [Re: BrandNoob]
#7504772 - 10/10/07 10:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your friends are right. Try taking 3 full-bowl-hits in under a minute and a half. In order for you to break through, you need to ingest enough Salvinorum A in a *very* short time. Otherwise your wasting it. Don't smoke it like weed, smoke it like salvia.
That is true. 3 hits in one minute will do a lot more for you than 10 hits in 30 minutes. The point is to get the entire amount you need for the desired level of experience in as quickly as possible. You also have to hold it in 20 to 30 seconds to give your lungs enough time to absorb the salvinorum.
If you are having a hard time getting to where you want to go or beyond then try packing several bowls and hitting it until you physically can not. That may prove to be overly intense. You may not even remember most of the experience if that takes you too far. The good news is that you probably won't need near as much in the future once you get the full blown effect one good time. The bad possibility is that may scare you away from ever trying it again.
In general:
Pack all of the salvia you think you will need. If using a small bowl have some more on the side ready to throw in quickly if needed.
Pull the flame through the salvia as you fill your lungs. Keep the flame flowing through the salvia the entire time. That's very important as salvia has to be burned at a much higher temp than weed.
Hold it in for 20 to 30 seconds. If you are not feeling strong effects as soon as you are done exhaling then immediately hit it again the same way. A sitter and safe environment is highly recommended until you are used to break through level experiences and know how you will react.
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Re: I thought it was weed but it was actually Salvia... [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
#7504934 - 10/10/07 11:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You know, I was going to say "How the hell can you mix up bud, which comes on slowly compared to salvia" but then there was this one time I wasn't looking what I was packing into my pipe (I thought it was kratom) and smoked a little toke. I remember being paralyised, and confused, and despite my friend being right next to me (he was asking for another piece of wood for the fire) I couldn't hear him. When it was over, about half a minute later, I thought to myself "Hmm, that kratom felt a lot like salvia." I looked to see what I had in my lap, and yep.. It was Sally!
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Re: I thought it was weed but it was actually Salvia... [Re: Visionary Tools]
#7505204 - 10/10/07 12:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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good ol' sally always sneaking up and ripping your balls off when you least expect it
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EthericOctopuss
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Re: I thought it was weed but it was actually Salvia... [Re: AgingHippy]
#7506001 - 10/10/07 04:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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teefizzle said: good ol' sally always sneaking up and ripping your balls off when you least expect it
LMFAO
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Cyrone
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Re: I thought it was weed but it was actually Salvia... [Re: AgingHippy]
#7506026 - 10/10/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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These are some excellent tips guys, thanks. The reason I didn't hold it in for 25 secs is cause I thought it was weed, and holding in weed is overrated (says a book I read) and bad for the lungs. Later hits, of course, were more uneven since we were passing it around in a circle and it would be half-kashed sometimes.
I don't really know how to prepare myself for the future - I don't WANT a balls-out trip, I'd rather do more shrooms and acid first, and at the same time I don't have a bowl cause like I said I'm not big on drugs. Maybe a joint, but I dunno how to roll those either. So future-wise, I could be anywhere... but know that I'll do it again in any situation, really.
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Re: I thought it was weed but it was actually Salvia... [Re: Cyrone]
#7506116 - 10/10/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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your friends are stupid for not telling you before
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TripityDooDaDay
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Re: I thought it was weed but it was actually Salvia... [Re: Alion]
#7506376 - 10/10/07 05:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't WANT a balls-out trip, I'd rather do more shrooms and acid first, and at the same time I don't have a bowl cause like I said I'm not big on drugs. Maybe a joint, but I dunno how to roll those either.
That's fine but if you ever are going for a balls-out trip, salvia may be scary but it's short duration is more forgiving than a balls-out acid or shroom trip.
You can smoke it in a joint but only the most sensitive will ever trip that way. Before my first breakthrough I would have gotten nothing from a joint of it. Due to reverse tolerance I can get a nice buzz smoking it in a joint but still no trip.
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your friends are stupid for not telling you before
In 99% or more of cases that is VERY true. I do have a couple of friends close enough that, in the right setting such a stupid stunt could be accepted and even expected. If anyone else were to try that crap with them or I however they would surely find themselves fearing for their own well being very shortly.
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Cyrone
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Re: I thought it was weed but it was actually Salvia... [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
#7516697 - 10/14/07 05:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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^ Well it's not that he FORGOT to tell me, it's that he purposely didn't tell me to make me think it was weed just to get me to smoke Salvia. Was that a dick thing to do?
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