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desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions
    #7503237 - 10/09/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ok so i finally got my 300+ desmanthus seeds from someone on ebay. i had to open a damn dispute against him before he shipped them to me. i ordered them on the 3rd of last month, so this is why i would like to make sure these are the correct seeds (sorry for the blurryness, i used a cell phone. my mother has my digital camera)....



also. im wanting to grow about 30. (enough for 2 doses, for a friend me) i want my first time with this substance to be all natural. i will be growing them indoors. i have a combined total of 139w of fluros. will this be enough for these? i would imagine it will be.

also, how big of an area do i need for about 30 of these to grow? i have 2 of these i could grow them in. or would 1 be fine (i would think 1 would be sufficient)?

are they easy to germinate? can i just springkle them in w/e i need to grow them in and slighty cover the seeds? or do i need to soak them in water? if so, how do i know when its time to plant?

what type of watering schedule do they like? do i have to keep them in high humidity while germinating? and how long does germination take with these *usually* ?

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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: Zexter]
    #7503311 - 10/09/07 10:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well i just took a blury picture of some of my desmanthus illinoensis (i have a lot of seeds) and by comparing the two pictures it looks like you actually have D. illinoensis.



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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: deformedreality]
    #7503732 - 10/09/07 11:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

lol
  id a blurry pic with another :tongue:
and Zexter
    be prepared to grow them a few years before you can harvest them.
  IF you want something fast to grow and very very potent try Phalaris Brachystachys.


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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: Zexter]
    #7504372 - 10/10/07 06:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)



:smile:


i had poor germination rate when just planting or even soaking first. i had around 80% germination rate when first knicking the shell with finger nail clippers and then soaking overnight. carefull not to cut too deep.


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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: waixingren]
    #7504759 - 10/10/07 10:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i was told by another shroomerite that it takes 2 months before you can harvest the desmanthus roots to brew into a tea and drink after taking an MAOI


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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: Zexter]
    #7504988 - 10/10/07 11:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah if you had a shitload of them.
I grew one for 6 months and I got maybe 3 grams of dried roots out of it.


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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: cpw1971]
    #7505545 - 10/10/07 02:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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yeah if you had a shitload of them.
  I grew one for 6 months and I got maybe 3 grams of dried roots out of it.




i was told that 15 plants, grown for 2 months, is good for 1 dose. and i have more than 300 seeds, so quantity isnt a problem. :bouncysmoke: :thumbup:

i have 139w of fluros (and a timer, woohoo, lol) do you think that will be enough for these weeds?

also, how deep does its root system get?

do you think that 2 of those tubs that i posted pics of above would be enough to grow about 30 of these plants?

and when its said to knick the seeds you do so away from the germ eye correct? and when its said to soak them, is that just putting the knicked seeds in a small cup of water for the night?

thanks for the help everyone :smile:


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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: Zexter]
    #7505587 - 10/10/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

you might get a dose out of it.
the flouros would probably work.
the rootsystem will get pretty deep with thin roots but the main roots of mine went maybe a foot down with the thickest part being pencil thin.


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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: cpw1971]
    #7505597 - 10/10/07 02:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

is soaking the seeds, just putting the knicked seeds in a small cup of tap water overnight?
or do i need to use purified water?





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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: Zexter]
    #7506306 - 10/10/07 05:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

anyone?

hopefully someone can help before it gets too late tonight, as i would like to start the germination process tonight! :smile:

thanks yall!


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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: Zexter]
    #7506553 - 10/10/07 06:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

knick em and stick em :tongue:
  in moist soil that is


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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: cpw1971]
    #7506615 - 10/10/07 06:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

he wants to know where you knick them though.


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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: deformedreality]
    #7506642 - 10/10/07 06:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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he wants to know where you knick them though.




i figured away from the germ eye?


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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: cpw1971]
    #7506668 - 10/10/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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knick em and stick em :tongue:
  in moist soil that is




are you talking about hookers or seeds?


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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: Zexter]
    #7506696 - 10/10/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ok i found NO NON SPONSOR LINKS

do you guys agree that i should knick them all around the seed, avoiding the germ eye.

and that i should " Cover the seeds with very hot water and let soak overnight or until they swell. Pick out those that didn't swell and repeat process with them. Sow swollen seeds immediately in seeding mix, covering with two to three times their thickness" <--- (seeding mix = potting soil?)

and to avoid high humidty because of the risk of fungal problems

and i think after all that. this is PROBABLY the end of the questions for now.

again, thanks for all the help everyone. it is greatly appreciated!:biggrin:


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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: Zexter]
    #7507033 - 10/10/07 08:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

im sorry about the link. i honestly didnt realize what i had done, and i apologize!:shake:


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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: Zexter]
    #7507796 - 10/11/07 03:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

no problem :-))

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Re: desmanthus illinoensis seed ID and a couple questions [Re: royer]
    #7515841 - 10/14/07 01:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

so i figured i would just use the same thread, so i wouldnt have to make a new one for another question.

ive read that desmanthus illinoensis can grow in very crappy soil.
if this is the case, could i just use normal dirt from my back yard, to grow this indoors? i imagine if it just grows naturally here in missouri, i should be able to do that. that would just help out my money situation, as i wouldnt have to buy more soil.


edit: or can i use a couple bags of topsoil to plant these weeds in?


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