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OfflineBigDD
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Crumbling v.s. slicing
    #7502440 - 10/09/07 06:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Would it not be better to slice the cakes into 1/2 inch thicknesses and lay them down within the casing layer, than to crumble them. Would it not in theory take less time for the myc to recover considering it would not be totally disturbed i.e. being crumbled? I can see how crumbling would however increase the surface area of the myc but to what benifit? Just thinking out loud.


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Re: Crumbling v.s. slicing [Re: BigDD]
    #7502466 - 10/09/07 06:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I always crumble. I think that slicing hurts the myc, any implement that is sharp enough to cut slices does more damage. If you are casing, the surface area of the myc is all that more important. IME


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Re: Crumbling v.s. slicing [Re: BigDD]
    #7502480 - 10/09/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I just started slicing and to tell you the truth the slicing covers more surface area. I didn't slice 1/2 pieces I sliced about 1/4 maybe.

At first I thought that it would of been a bad idea. But I thought about it more and it's awesome. Also of all the casings I have done lately the slicing was the last out of 4 and meaning I did 3 one day and the 4th about 6 or so days later. Well the sliced one is growing much faster.

I'm stoked at the results. I'm slicing from now on. Plus when slicing your only making one cut as opposed to crumbling which is breaking it up all over.

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Re: Crumbling v.s. slicing [Re: BigDD]
    #7502484 - 10/09/07 06:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

with slicing you have to penetrate it with an object but with crumbling you can just throw it in a plastic bag and use your hands...easier and less chance of a contam

crumble FTW!


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Re: Crumbling v.s. slicing [Re: mikeytro]
    #7502597 - 10/09/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Not much room for a contamination, as the mycelium should have control of the substrate prior to crumbling anyway. Either crumbling or slicing will work.


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hell... blend! [Re: Wronguy]
    #7502625 - 10/09/07 06:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Wronguy said:
Not much room for a contamination, as the mycelium should have control of the substrate prior to crumbling anyway. Either crumbling or slicing will work.




I agree. I've even put cakes into a food processor and shredded
them into tiny pieces. In fact, it's my preferred method to
"crumble" cakes because it makes the most inoculation points
out of them.

Of course you should always be clean, quick and careful, but a
fully colonized cake won't easily contaminate by touch or by an instrument.
In my experience anyway...

I find that the most important part of "crumbling" a cake is getting
it into as many tiny pieces as possible, seeing how it will be used
as a spawn material. The tinier the pieces, the better it works.


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Re: hell... blend! [Re: monstermitch]
    #7504208 - 10/10/07 04:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Does the mycellium go into any shock whatsoever when you break apart the threads?


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Re: hahahahaha [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7504209 - 10/10/07 04:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah but it recovers


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Re: hahahahaha [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7504312 - 10/10/07 06:12 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

At least in humans a clean cut heals much faster that damage caused by a rip in the skin.

I don't know if this applies to mycelia though.


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