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FlusH
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5-htp and zoomers?
#750211 - 07/16/02 06:25 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was wondering if anybody know's if it is possible to mix 5-htp and mushrooms and safely trip. I have read a large amount of this site as well as www.erowid.com ( another fabulous website!) and have found nothing regarding the consumption of 5-htp with mushrooms. If anyone could steer me in the right direction it would be very appreciated. Thanks
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SalsDali
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Re: 5-htp and zoomers? [Re: FlusH]
#751483 - 07/16/02 04:23 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's my understanding that not only would the mix be safe but actually a benefit. 5-HTP preloading just adds the immediate precusor to serotonin (5-HT) into the brain. 5-HTP can cross the blood brain barrier, 5-HT cannot. So then your brain has a lesser limiting factor in terms of 5-HT production. Psilocin binds to various 5-HT receptors and causes an EXTREMELY LOCALIZED release of 5-HT on those neurons it binds to. Generally the more 5-HT released the more intense the trip. So if you reduce the 5-HT precursor limiting factor (by 5-HTP preloading) then in theory more 5-HT will be produced and thus be avail for release. Trip duration will be the same. Trip intensity is the only thing that would be increased. Your milage will definately vary.
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Re: 5-htp and zoomers? [Re: SalsDali]
#28823840 - 06/23/24 02:27 PM (7 months, 19 days ago) |
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This answer is different than almost everything I've seen, which usually says the serotonin from the 5-HTP would complete for receptors with the Psilocin and lessen one's trip. I hope you are right - your science sounds different. Thank you
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This is 22 year old advice given by a self proclaimed newbie…
I highly doubt whether 5htp will change your trip at all. It is mostly used for after the trip or after using mdma in an effort to replenish serotonin.
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FlusH
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the funny part, over these two decades I never got around to trying the two together
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cpmorgan5000
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Re: 5-htp and zoomers? [Re: FlusH]
#28835204 - 07/02/24 11:16 AM (7 months, 10 days ago) |
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I plan to do some science and have some exact same tea and try 5-HTP before one and not before the other and report back, but...
I started researching 5-HTP for psilocybin tolerance and read about people taking it before smoking weed. I am the type that weed energizes and Adderall makes me feel calm. I took 100mg of 5-HTP on an empty stomach, I was tired as hell. I layed on the couch for a couple hours, couldn't do shit, then I hit the bong. Brother, let me tell you: I had so much energy I coulda punched through a wall. Hella confident and strong and energized and more high, and here's the other thing: I could get more Adderall-type shit done, like typing emails, on the combination of 5-HTP and weed than I could on Adderall. I look at my Adderall script now and it makes me sick. Not to mention, Adderall takes the edge of weed and shrooms anyway. 5-HTP make weed hit harder, make you stronger, energized, more confident, get shit done like you were on amphetimenes. I do think it's smart to follow general guidance and stack 5-HTP with Green Tea Extract for balance, but man, what a combo if your body chemistry reacts to it like mine. Also, as an old man, I can tell you 5-HTP and bong hits loosens up my back and knees like no other, and, as some folks may know, THC relieves the symptoms of rosacea, and on the combination of 5-HTP and THC I look like a ghost. In sum, THC and 5-HTP (with Green Tea Extract for safe balance) is a wonder combo that, at least in my case, amplifies all the benefits of THC.
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If using 5-HTP one wants to make sure they're getting enough B6 for AADC/DOPA Decarboxylase to convert 5-HTP into Serotonin, otherwise if one is low in B6 (P5P) then AADC can't function properly and you'll feel more 5-HTP than Serotonin, but if you're good in B6 then you'll feel the Serotonin and not so much the 5-HTP. Same with L-Dopa btw.
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Re: 5-htp and zoomers? [Re: Sabnock] 1
#28841954 - 07/07/24 09:52 PM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
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Well I don't know what the fuck is going on but I am absolutely in love with taking 5-htp, green tea extract, and vitamin B as you suggested, on an empty stomach an hour before some bong hits. I cannot tell you how this has revolutionized my life: amplified everything that's good about weed. I mean the energy, focus, anti-depressant, keep your knees loose, and I also believe it makes you more sensitive to THC. Fuck Adderall for the rest of my life, my script makes me sick real talk. Incidentally, I've read mostly negative theories on this board about supplmenting 5-htp on the day you consume psilocybin. Well yesterday I'd taken probably 150mg of 5-htp with the attendant stack and was feeling kinda sorry for myself, so I made some bullshit tea on the quick out of some mids shit I had laying around. Brother let me tell you I was getting visuals off that wack-ass tea and was up for hours. I took another 5-htp stack during the trip and was pleasantly surprised that it seemed to extend everything. I'm sure my Southwest Denver neighbors were happy that I had I had all my windows and doors open blasting Big Hill & Gimisum Family - "No Hesitation" (Remastered) - linked below - on loop with a fire in my back yard that was up to eight feet while I walked around with my shirt of taking bong hits. In sum, if you are the type for whom weed provides energy (and added bonus if you know that Adderall makes you calm), I highly recommend stacking 5-htp, green tea extract, and vitamin b and taking control of your life, for real it is wild.
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Re: 5-htp and zoomers? [Re: FlusH]
#28841960 - 07/07/24 10:01 PM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
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See my post - nothing but good things to say about 5-htp, green tea extract, and vitamin b (which is good for trips anyway). I don't know if I'll ever not be stacking those everyday with psilocbyin in my life included. Err...double negative. I will continue to stack this shit and will be smoking weed every day and I also believe this stack also makes me more senstive to psilocbyin, which I'm grateful for.
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cpmorgan5000
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One more thing: my friend who's coming off alcohol (he's an alcoholic), morphine (he got addicted after surgery), and a bad attitude (he was talking about killing himself, which for his personality type is baffling), and he finally listened to me and took 5-htp and green tea extract before some weed and told me I might be a genius, which is in no way me trying to brag (I learned about 5-htp and weed on this site), but it is telling because he's the type of guy who would have to think hard whether he wanted to take a BB gun shot to the toe or give someone a compliment
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Re: 5-htp and zoomers? [Re: FlusH] 1
#28931062 - 08/31/24 06:31 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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Recently read that almost all survivors of childhood trauma are serotonin deficient. Want to find out quick? Gobble 200mgs of 5-htp on an empty stomach (don't worry, this much one time without green tea extract won't hurt) with a big bottle of water. Wait two hours, smoke weed, and if you feel like the fucking hulk you are likely serotonin deficient. If that's the case, the other proper instructions for supplementing are above ^^^
I know some dude on this site said 5htp day-of-trip limited his trip relative to his friends, but beyond regularly supplementation of 5htp giving me a looser back, more regular stools, greater energy and focus, and making me more sensitive to weed, if find it makes me more sensitive to psilocybin all the time.
I'm a teacher and have been drinking a little tea before school so I am in the zone and regular supplementation of 5htp for me keeps the tea hitting.
Edited by cpmorgan5000 (08/31/24 06:33 PM)
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