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fruiting temperature question
    #7501349 - 10/09/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If you incubate at 90degrees+ should you fruit at 80degrees or even more? That would be 10 degrees below incubation temperature even though its high for fruiting... I got a few cakes that i incubated at 90-91degrees and cant seem to get to fruit at 75-78degrees in my basement. All other conditions are good, plenty of condensation on the insides and top of container and vented 2x a day.


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Re: fruiting temperature question [Re: AncientBeing]
    #7501403 - 10/09/07 11:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

They're probably so bacteria contaminated from the high colonization temperatures, they're in shock. Why would you colonize jars at 90? Any temperature INside the jar over 83F will begin to slow down the growth of mycelium. At the same time, high temperatures favor thermophilic molds and bacteria. The 75F you're trying to fruit at is fine for colonization AND fruiting.

Condensation on the sides of the FC do not have a relationship to humidity at all. Condensation indicates a temperature differential. You need to fan your terrarium more than twice per day. Good luck.
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Re: fruiting temperature question [Re: AncientBeing]
    #7501410 - 10/09/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

and here is a pic of the cakes. In largest turkey roaster pans i could find using the ground up corncob tek. No problems with contaminations but no buildup of pre-pin mounds either.




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Re: fruiting temperature question [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7501416 - 10/09/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

They colonize fine it seems at 90. No fungus mold contaminations. Corncob is pretty resilient. I get a little bit of bacterial mold where the foil made contact with the top of the cake and water condensed but i've fruited plenty of cakes before with bacterial mold on it and they did fine.


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Re: fruiting temperature question [Re: AncientBeing]
    #7501432 - 10/09/07 12:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Perhaps you'll get lucky and it will pin from around the edges. That looks more like a brick than a substrate. What's the scent?
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Re: fruiting temperature question [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7501517 - 10/09/07 12:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

is it me, or does it look kinda dry? sure is pulling away from the edges.


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Re: fruiting temperature question [Re: AncientBeing]
    #7502137 - 10/09/07 04:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

think i might have overlay? The surface does look a bit hard and solid so i took one of the cakes and chopped it up and sprayed peroxide to moisten a bit.


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