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#7499756 - 10/08/07 10:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Check it out
Fucking worthless pig.
Three of the victims were students at the small town's high school, and three were recent graduates.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: 2FiNiTe] 1
#7499759 - 10/08/07 10:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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poo lice!
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: 2FiNiTe] 1
#7499765 - 10/08/07 10:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is it just me, or has the number of cop-related incidents icnreased dramatically in the last month or so?
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: 2FiNiTe] 1
#7499793 - 10/08/07 10:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, I hope that all those kids who had the big mouths in that house, and at all the other places where folks got shot up due to hurtful and hateful words felt it was worth it as they bled out. "Sticks and Stones" is not a solid platform of defense in the real world.
I'm glad my prison daddy and all of my "uncles" growing up taught me that "If you're not willing to die for what you're about to say, don't say it".
And as a one time aspiring school shooter, circa 1989, I can tell you that at that point in my life, I would have had NO problem emptying my AR-15 into a few certain select crowds. Intersting that we had the same choice in weapons. I wonder if he had the conversion kit??
Anyhow, some innocent kids died no doubt, and they can thank their big mouth "friends". I mean, for God's sake, this is AMERICA, we love our guns and are LOOKING for a reason to shoot. This guy was a cop, and while he may have been a women abuser, a punk, a bully, whatever, you had to guess that he had a gun near him, and MAYBE, JUST F*ING MAYBE, he might use it if his (obviously) broken heart got kicked around just a bit more.
I'm all for every 12 year old getting a gun put in his or her face by a future murderer (as I did) after running their mouths a bit too far (as I did) it will TEACH YOU that it's a GREAT idea to shut up 99.99% of the time.
Either that, or you're one of the few and the proud. The truly insane.
Every time I hear about this kind of crap, it makes me sick.
Let the games begin!!
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Merkin] 1
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Can't blame the fact that he was a "cop".
Although I AM interested to know if he was on, or had been on any medication in his life.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck] 1
#7499798 - 10/08/07 10:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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you sir are fucked up.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck] 1
#7499810 - 10/08/07 10:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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That is honestly the worst response I've ever heard so far
Shut up 99.99% of the time, honestly, America would be totalitarian by now if everyone thought the same as you
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck] 1
#7499813 - 10/08/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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either way he is a piece of shit and is burning the the flames of hell at the left nut of satan.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck] 1
#7499817 - 10/08/07 10:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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violence rules guns are cool and we have guns in our school
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck] 1
#7499827 - 10/08/07 10:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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whattheheck said: Well, I hope that all those kids who had the big mouths in that house, and at all the other places where folks got shot up due to hurtful and hateful words felt it was worth it as they bled out. "Sticks and Stones" is not a solid platform of defense in the real world.
I'm glad my prison daddy and all of my "uncles" growing up taught me that "If you're not willing to die for what you're about to say, don't say it".
And as a one time aspiring school shooter, circa 1989, I can tell you that at that point in my life, I would have had NO problem emptying my AR-15 into a few certain select crowds. Intersting that we had the same choice in weapons. I wonder if he had the conversion kit??
Anyhow, some innocent kids died no doubt, and they can thank their big mouth "friends". I mean, for God's sake, this is AMERICA, we love our guns and are LOOKING for a reason to shoot. This guy was a cop, and while he may have been a women abuser, a punk, a bully, whatever, you had to guess that he had a gun near him, and MAYBE, JUST F*ING MAYBE, he might use it if his (obviously) broken heart got kicked around just a bit more.
I'm all for every 12 year old getting a gun put in his or her face by a future murderer (as I did) after running their mouths a bit too far (as I did) it will TEACH YOU that it's a GREAT idea to shut up 99.99% of the time.
Either that, or you're one of the few and the proud. The truly insane.
Every time I hear about this kind of crap, it makes me sick.
Let the games begin!!
wow you're both stupid AND morally numb
that's a two-fer!
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Tangerines] 1
#7499831 - 10/08/07 10:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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FYI this post title is clearly wrong. it should be 6 killed, in shooting, by sheriff deputy
It was over his EX-girlfriends house it wasnt because of the names that sparked the incident, she had just broke up with him.
This is a shit still
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: wps] 1
#7499832 - 10/08/07 10:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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violence rules guns are cool and we have guns in our school poems are gay just like poo remember that day jenkem ruled? the day lives on jenkem is here here to please have no fear. jenkem for breakfast jenkem for tea jenkem for lunch jenkem for me.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck] 1
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whattheheck said: Well, I hope that all those kids who had the big mouths in that house, and at all the other places where folks got shot up due to hurtful and hateful words felt it was worth it as they bled out. "Sticks and Stones" is not a solid platform of defense in the real world.
I'm glad my prison daddy and all of my "uncles" growing up taught me that "If you're not willing to die for what you're about to say, don't say it".
And as a one time aspiring school shooter, circa 1989, I can tell you that at that point in my life, I would have had NO problem emptying my AR-15 into a few certain select crowds. Intersting that we had the same choice in weapons. I wonder if he had the conversion kit??
Anyhow, some innocent kids died no doubt, and they can thank their big mouth "friends". I mean, for God's sake, this is AMERICA, we love our guns and are LOOKING for a reason to shoot. This guy was a cop, and while he may have been a women abuser, a punk, a bully, whatever, you had to guess that he had a gun near him, and MAYBE, JUST F*ING MAYBE, he might use it if his (obviously) broken heart got kicked around just a bit more.
I'm all for every 12 year old getting a gun put in his or her face by a future murderer (as I did) after running their mouths a bit too far (as I did) it will TEACH YOU that it's a GREAT idea to shut up 99.99% of the time.
Either that, or you're one of the few and the proud. The truly insane.
Every time I hear about this kind of crap, it makes me sick.
Let the games begin!!
you're a fucking psycho.
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Merkin said: jenkem for breakfast jenkem for tea jenkem for lunch jenkem for me.
    
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: meatcakeman] 1
#7499846 - 10/08/07 10:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Merkin wins
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: meatcakeman] 1
#7499856 - 10/08/07 10:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/08/wisconsin.shooting/index.html
theres a much better version of the story with a lot more information of the event in it. sorry if this is seems rude i just saw your post and remembered reading about it earlier today.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck] 1
#7500422 - 10/09/07 04:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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whattheheck said: Can't blame the fact that he was a "cop".
Although I AM interested to know if he was on, or had been on any medication in his life.
Go eat your cake of fail. He's a police man, and swore to uphold the constitution, you know, the thing that American's died for to escape from tyranny? "Fucking worthless pig" whilst accurate in this situation, is NEVER A JUSTIFICATION FOR KILLING SOMEONE
Then again, it's like police officers are being trained to beat and oppress, rather than protect and serve.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Visionary Tools] 1
#7500432 - 10/09/07 04:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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This actually happened right by me. most cops are worthless pigs especially the ones around here.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck] 1
#7500787 - 10/09/07 08:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ah, it's good to be back. I felt a little saddened by the fact that since I returned after a several year hiatus that I had become soft. I'm surprised that I only caught this much hell. But I tried.
And oh hell no there is no point in this, and people shouldn't get shot for just words they say. NEVER!! But I was tempted to shoot up some kids when I was young. What for? Well, being white seemed to be the main point of it, that and the hate stored up in the hearts of the kids and their parents probably a close second. After a couple years of endless torment from the main bully I let him know how I felt about him and what I was going to do to him one day. Well, he happened to have a loaded .45ACP in his bag that I had to stare at for a few minutes while he taunted me with my life.
Unless you've been there, life hanging in the balance with a future murderer (later smashed his wife's face in with the butt of a shotgun in front of his children) it's probably hard to gain perspective into why you'd WANT to kill someone.
I mentored "high risk" youth for a couple of years, and if I had a dollar for each one who had Columbine type dreams...
My point, WE ALL KNOW most all cops are off balance, have axes to grind, and want to be billy bad ass, so what are these (obviously unarmed) kids doing popping off? Why not let the guy just spout off and leave?
What could we compare it too? Maybe a group of "infidels" calling an admitted Muslim radical the worst possible names possible?
Two final points. Although I did write it, what I meant (sorry) is that in situations where you're obviously dealing with an armed, or easily armed, unbalanced individual, and the temptation to taunt them comes, and you have no intention of responding with an even level of violence, THEN 99.99% of the time keeping your mouth shut would probably be a good idea no??
And finally, and sadly, I don't see any of this crap ending anytime soon. These guys all get off on the idea of how much coverage and "I told you I was a bad ass" attention they'll get after they mass murder innocent people, even if they ARE DEAD.
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#7500795 - 10/09/07 08:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Two final points. Although I did write it, what I meant (sorry) is that in situations where you're obviously dealing with an armed, or easily armed, unbalanced individual, and the temptation to taunt them comes, and you have no intention of responding with an even level of violence, THEN 99.99% of the time keeping your mouth shut would probably be a good idea no??
Then you are submitting to psychopaths, and would have done fine in Stalin era Russia.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
#7500801 - 10/09/07 08:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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it's kinda true.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: 2FiNiTe]
#7500815 - 10/09/07 08:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wait how the fuck can a 20 year old become a cop/deputy sheriff. The kid can't even fucking drink a beer but he can make life/death situations in an instant. Fuck that. Giving a 20 year old that much authority is asking for trouble.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: 2FiNiTe]
#7500838 - 10/09/07 08:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I never liked young people, but I give these kids credit for calling him a pig.
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#7500839 - 10/09/07 08:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Irradiated_Feces said: Wait how the fuck can a 20 year old become a cop/deputy sheriff. The kid can't even fucking drink a beer but he can make life/death situations in an instant. Fuck that. Giving a 20 year old that much authority is asking for trouble.
that's wtf i want to know.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Merkin]
#7500841 - 10/09/07 08:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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They let young dumb people join the military. Why not as cops?
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
#7500843 - 10/09/07 08:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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whattheheck said: Well, I hope that all those kids who had the big mouths in that house, and at all the other places where folks got shot up due to hurtful and hateful words felt it was worth it as they bled out. "Sticks and Stones" is not a solid platform of defense in the real world.
I'm glad my prison daddy and all of my "uncles" growing up taught me that "If you're not willing to die for what you're about to say, don't say it".
And as a one time aspiring school shooter, circa 1989, I can tell you that at that point in my life, I would have had NO problem emptying my AR-15 into a few certain select crowds. Intersting that we had the same choice in weapons. I wonder if he had the conversion kit??
Anyhow, some innocent kids died no doubt, and they can thank their big mouth "friends". I mean, for God's sake, this is AMERICA, we love our guns and are LOOKING for a reason to shoot. This guy was a cop, and while he may have been a women abuser, a punk, a bully, whatever, you had to guess that he had a gun near him, and MAYBE, JUST F*ING MAYBE, he might use it if his (obviously) broken heart got kicked around just a bit more.
I'm all for every 12 year old getting a gun put in his or her face by a future murderer (as I did) after running their mouths a bit too far (as I did) it will TEACH YOU that it's a GREAT idea to shut up 99.99% of the time.
Either that, or you're one of the few and the proud. The truly insane.
Every time I hear about this kind of crap, it makes me sick.
Let the games begin!!
uh ...you shouldnt have to worry about cops killing you in your own house?
You should also feel free to say what you like in your own house?
They are giving severely unstable people guns and giving them authority to "protect and serve"?
there are so many things wrong with the picture and you used it as a way to prove how smart you think you are
by the way, you dont sound jaded at all. nice try. just sound like you havent spent much time in reality but living vicariously through people who have. caution: this doesnt make you wise!
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: bukkake]
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bukkake said: I never liked young people, but I give these kids credit for calling him a pig.
And that is why they got shot.
While this is a sad and horrible thing, we don't know the history behind all of this and the media is going to ignore the history behind all of this, just like they did for Columbine. Just turn the "perpetrator(s)" into animals and all is good. What people forget is that this person is also a human.
It reminds me of columbine. While Columbine was a horrid event that never should have happened, I know why it happened. People, especially kids, are insensitive, especially when backed by the "mob". I spent many of my 18 years as part of the foster care system and just happened to be placed into a school that was filled by upper middle class kids who had nothing better to do than torment me for not having what they "had". I was treated as diseased for being a foster child, something that I had ZERO control over. However, being that I was intelligent enough to realize that once school was over, I would never have to see those assholes again as they fight their way into materialistic mediocrity. Many people either don't realize this or don't have someone there to explain it to them. They don't realize that life can be better and that change can be made, it just has to come from within.
And yes, 20 years of age is too young to be put into a position of authority. However, those minds are most malleable, and can be turned into the "pigs" that we hate today. That is why police departments like such young minds.
At the same time, I still have to say those kids are at fault. First of all, whatever was going on was going on between that deputy and his exgirlfriend, not the deputy and those other kids. When your heart is hurting most is when you least need other people to continue to kick you into the ground. I lost a good friend in HS because when he was hurting most, other kids continued to kick his ass into the ground rather than shut their mouths and THINK. That night he took his own life. While it's sad that he's not around anymore, at least he didn't kill anyone else in his pain.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Visionary Tools]
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I must submit, with respect, is the goal not to neutralize these maniacs? I have four children, I don't NEED them to be right, I NEED them to be able to understand situations and hopefully do their best in those situations, and that's how I relate to the situation.
I cannot imagine that you'd encourage anyone you care about to toss gasoline on the maniacal fires of a madman, UNLESS they were ready to fight and die for that situation. These dead kids might have done a lot with their lives, not the least of which could have been crusaders against police brutality, but we'll never know 
This is a topic near and dear, for obvious reasons, to my heart. And I just cannot see where, and I would NEVER make the blanket statement, "They asked for it", just as a girl with a few too many and revealing clothes "asks" to be raped, I cannot see where insulting a guy who was from all accounts passionate about this girl and was getting bombed on by everyone, was going to "teach him a lesson" or make the world a better place.
Personally, I treat all police with respect and honor when I encounter them. Again, maybe it's because twice in life I've had police run the door of the house I was in screaming like madmen with weapons drawn, and I (and everyone else there) both times (once as a child, once as a college student where the Phoenix PD got the wrong door) ALL agreed that they were just ITCHING to shoot. Screw going out like that.
There have to be better ways to fight this problem. However, I DO understand your points about free speech and speaking out, and I do applaud the fact that we have the rights (for now, well kinda) to say what we want in this country.
Maybe I just spent too much of my life in self-preservation/survival mode to see it any other way??
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
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you made your point in the last post, and the second one shows equally poor reasoning and misunderstanding. shut up.
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How is self-preservation poor reasoning?
Hes saying how sometimes needless violence happens just cause someone dosent know when to be quiet. That does not = to being a generally passive person. But unless you are prepaired to die for whatever it is you gotta say to an unstable person with a gun, but think twice. Whats wrong with that reasoning?
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
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whattheheck said: I have four children
I hate it when tards reproduce. Stupidity is contagious, and you're a carrier.
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2FiNiTe said: Check it out
Fucking worthless pig.
Three of the victims were students at the small town's high school, and three were recent graduates.
Yeah I heard about that shit... fucked up it isn't too far from where I live. Fucking wisconsinites.....
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: moon_glue]
#7501044 - 10/09/07 10:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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"When they kick at your front door How you gonna come With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?
When the law break in How you gonna go Shot down on the pavement Or waiting on death row?"
Though even I realize that the Clash are presenting a false dichotomy with that one. How about we effect real change by considering new options, seeing as how all the old ones have proven untenable? Why don't we neither placate (nor taunt) our adversaries? Can't we open true dialog with them? Present them with questions or situations that catch them off-guard and retain their humanity?
I'm reminded of the March on the Pentagon and how they planned to bomb the pentagon with daisies. The CIA had a fake helicopter pilot answer the ad, and he never showed up for the job. So they handed them out to the protesters who put them in the guard's guns. The published newsphotos of this are some that stand out strongest in many minds.
This would not work in the story of the party and the cop, however, and the officer was ulimately in the wrong; the party-goers were only in the lesser-wrong.
I just want to be reminded that while we are guaranteed the right to remain silent, we are also guaranteed the right to speak our minds - especially to a public authority in our own homes. Let's make sure that what's in our minds are worth speaking.
My thoughts and prayers go out to those who were killed and their families.
Edit: changed "enemies" to "adversaries" - that word is much more betterer.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
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i'd seek therapy right away if i were you.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
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Lets focus on the positives that came out of the situation at least theres one more dead cop thats off the streets.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
#7501184 - 10/09/07 10:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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6 people died out of a town of 2000.
in terms of loss of life relative to population, thats 12x worse than 9/11 for that town!
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: LucidDream]
#7501193 - 10/09/07 10:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I love being hated by folks like you all, it's lets me know I'm on the right path.
BTW, please show me the holes with my "theory".
Since most of The Shroomery is about anarachy and law of the jungle, survival of the fittest type of stuff, what's wrong with this?? Why do you celebrate the "cop" being dead and not those who provoked him to such lenghts? Maybe they were all going to grow up and be cops, or judges, or one of the other groups of folks that you all hate so much.
Would you have celebrated their deaths then too??
The facts are the facts, either violence is a means to an ends or it isn't. I say it isn't and is never justifiable, and that words are merely the overflow of what is in our hearts. They hated him, he hated them, now they are ALL dead.
Because of hate. NOT BECAUSE HE WAS A COP!!!! WAKE UP!!!!!!
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Visionary Tools]
#7501248 - 10/09/07 11:10 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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whattheheck said: Can't blame the fact that he was a "cop".
Although I AM interested to know if he was on, or had been on any medication in his life.
Go eat your cake of fail. He's a police man, and swore to uphold the constitution, you know, the thing that American's died for to escape from tyranny? "Fucking worthless pig" whilst accurate in this situation, is NEVER A JUSTIFICATION FOR KILLING SOMEONE
Then again, it's like police officers are being trained to beat and oppress, rather than protect and serve.
My point precisely. There's another shooting in California this morning, and MY POINT WAS, people are loving to open fire in America, and these kids NEEDED to see it coming. What is the point of provoking him??? ANSWER THAT!!! Nobody has. American kids need to be taught about the REALITES of of our society, one of the new ones being, when an obviously nutso guy has a weapon on him, UNLESS YOU WANT a fight to the death, LEAVE IT ALONE!!!
My bet is that it was the one "tough guy" in the group popping off, and that was enough.
And if you think this makes me happy, I need a show of hands of who here (besides me) has served disadvataged children for little money, with recognized results.
I help because I've been there. And I'm willing to open up and be honest. And that always draws hate from those who love to judge, yet have never walked the path.
I want to figure out ways to protect and keep our children alive, and I have a community of people who KNOW that I contribute to the cause. What about you all?? Or do you sit behind a board cursing out the "PIGS" and anybody who has ACTUALLY DONE something to improve the situation??
I never shot anyone. I can't even bring myself to buy a gun. But there was a time, when I was all of 11, that I could no longer take the abuse, and there was NOBODY there for me, so I DO understand the mindset of these guys. And I am not ashamed. For that is why I can now HELP these "manics", because I FEEL & KNOW their pain, and they KNOW it, so my words carry the weight and truth and are backed up by endless documentation from everyone from teachers to the state mental hospital.
Next......
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
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Amen to that. I pray for MUCH stricter laws for law enforcement. Something good needs to come out of this tradgedy. I know 5 people who have entered this line of work, and honestly 4 of them should BE in jail, and the other is a very good man, 3rd generation law enforcement and lives what it means in the truest sense of the word.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
#7501260 - 10/09/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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calling someone names is not justification for murdering them. you're a pyscho. are you going to come kill me now?
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
#7501265 - 10/09/07 11:16 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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whattheheck said: Amen to that. I pray for MUCH stricter laws for law enforcement. Something good needs to come out of this tradgedy. I know 5 people who have entered this line of work, and honestly 4 of them should BE in jail, and the other is a very good man, 3rd generation law enforcement and lives what it means in the truest sense of the word.
the fact that he was a cop has nothing to do with this. he's just a whiny dipshit crybaby.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: m1ndriot]
#7501282 - 10/09/07 11:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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whattheheck said: Well, I hope that all those kids who had the big mouths in that house, and at all the other places where folks got shot up due to hurtful and hateful words felt it was worth it as they bled out. "Sticks and Stones" is not a solid platform of defense in the real world.
I'm glad my prison daddy and all of my "uncles" growing up taught me that "If you're not willing to die for what you're about to say, don't say it".
And as a one time aspiring school shooter, circa 1989, I can tell you that at that point in my life, I would have had NO problem emptying my AR-15 into a few certain select crowds. Intersting that we had the same choice in weapons. I wonder if he had the conversion kit??
Anyhow, some innocent kids died no doubt, and they can thank their big mouth "friends". I mean, for God's sake, this is AMERICA, we love our guns and are LOOKING for a reason to shoot. This guy was a cop, and while he may have been a women abuser, a punk, a bully, whatever, you had to guess that he had a gun near him, and MAYBE, JUST F*ING MAYBE, he might use it if his (obviously) broken heart got kicked around just a bit more.
I'm all for every 12 year old getting a gun put in his or her face by a future murderer (as I did) after running their mouths a bit too far (as I did) it will TEACH YOU that it's a GREAT idea to shut up 99.99% of the time.
Either that, or you're one of the few and the proud. The truly insane.
Every time I hear about this kind of crap, it makes me sick.
Let the games begin!!
you're a fucking psycho.
damn thats what i thought! im readin this like wwwttttffffffffffff
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
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I agree with those who say he was a cop had nothing to do about it.
HE WAS NOT ON DUTY. HE WAS NOT WEARING A UNIFORM. Are we going to start labeling everyone who commits a murder by their job title? Two doors down from where I live a woman was beaten to death by her husband for cheating on him. He was a mechanic. I didn't see anywhere in the paper an article stating, "woman beaten to death by auto mechanic" because it had nothing to do with his job. Just like this cop, this murder had NOTHING to do with his job. Thank god this happened and no one else had to die while he was ON duty. But the fact that he was a cop for work has NOTHING to do with this murder. NOTHING.
My post from earlier still stands. This was nothing more than a dispute between two exes that some "friends" should have not joined. We don't know the history behind this and we never will because the media is just interested in turning this guy into an animal. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't, but there was still human in him that was hurt by what had been said.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: trippindad82]
#7501300 - 10/09/07 11:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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it has nothing do with it? you'r fuckin way off dude
hes a fuckin cop supposed to be protecting people and instead hes killin kids
he probably used the gun that he carries WHILE HE WORKS
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: moon_glue]
#7501366 - 10/09/07 11:42 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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But moon_glue, it's not that he was a cop. I mean this with respect, because yeah, I'm fired up, but open my eyes to this please.
1. It wasn't that a "cop" killed these children. It was that he was a person (a lunitic, a moron, a pig whatever) who was on a very thin thread. Agreed? Being a cop was his job (part time I guess) and more than likely, as with most police, this "title" became a HUGE part, if not an overwhelming part of his identity. Which in any profession shows mental illness.
2. We ALL recognize that a great deal, if not almost all of those entering law enforcement are, in our opinion (and seemingly it IS factual if we put all the evidence together, but for the sake of argument say it's an "opinion") anybody who wants to be cop wants to for OBVIOUS reasons. Some of them are to feel big, scare and intimidate, and quite a few DO want to hurt others, to the point of killing them. So besides the military (possibly, and really I think law enforcment is #1) is there anyone who, in the REAL world that we live in, think that maybe we should just do our best to just recognize these individuals as unbalanced, like a blind rattlesnake (does that work?) and do our best to avoid provoking them, if not avoid them altoghter and NOT give them a reason to get put on their Sh!t list??
3. I know that what I said seems horrible. But so is life for a LOT of people, including many on this board. And we have to meet them on their turf right. If they were on ours, then we wouldn't have these issues. But again, I can see it. I suffered tremendous abuse for NO reason at the hands of others, with NO retailation for YEARS to the point of not caring if I lived for a long while (10-12) I never wanted to die, but there was little, if any joy in my life. It was 24/7 pain at home and at school.
Yet I was fortunate enough to be loved on by a group of people who saw the truth, and without script drugs or EVER retailiating against anyone, I have had the chance to heal and then help others in the only way I know how. And that is to RELATE to the "maniacs" who are almost all (I did meet one TRUE scary child) just broken kids turning to the easiest way "out", that being voilence. And because I can relate, then I can have a relat-ionship with them, and try to show them, through my life, and not just words, that there can be and is a brighter tomorrow for those brave enough to hold on and not give in.
Maybe I could have even helped that "pig". And I'm not the only one. There are MANY who have gone through the same, and share a similar story, and have served far longer, and many in much more dangerous situations than I. And for them, and from them, there is a great deal of respect.
I don't mean to use caps as yelling, but the internet doesn't allow me to show the broad range of emotions that I'm sure we all feel towards this subject.
Even if y'all do hate me, maybe it will provoke enough thought that we can all start contributing to SOLUTIONS that will turn the tide of this type of knee jerk hatered that's out there. Because even here in the middle of nowhere, a lot of these kids have the "Colombine Dreams" and I'm afraid that there will be MANY MANY more of these nightmares unless we DO something, ANYTHING, and not keep leaving it up to the schools, courts, councilers, and "pigs".
I'm sure we can at least agree on that.
Sorry for the spelling.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Atheist]
#7501491 - 10/09/07 12:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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SpicyTunaRoll said: it has nothing do with it? you'r fuckin way off dude
hes a fuckin cop supposed to be protecting people and instead hes killin kids
he probably used the gun that he carries WHILE HE WORKS
I'm not way off. It was his JOB, not his LIFE. Had he been in uniform then I would feel differently. And as a COP he probably was protecting people, but in his outside life he is still a human being who made a mistake. That was definitely a rage killing and not a planned killing. I am in no way saying that what he did was right, but to single him out for his job title is a little extreme. Yes, there are plenty of dirty cops out there who kill and then plant evidence to protect their own asses, however, this was an off duty officer who made a poor decision. Just like the kids he killed (and what is a 17y/o doing hanging out with college kids???) made a poor decision in thinking they were better and could taunt him. Him having trouble with a girlfriend doesn't make him a stupid pig. The two have NOTHING in common. Life is life, work is work.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
#7501526 - 10/09/07 12:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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whattheheck said: But moon_glue, it's not that he was a cop. I mean this with respect, because yeah, I'm fired up, but open my eyes to this please.
1. It wasn't that a "cop" killed these children. It was that he was a person (a lunitic, a moron, a pig whatever) who was on a very thin thread. Agreed? Being a cop was his job (part time I guess) and more than likely, as with most police, this "title" became a HUGE part, if not an overwhelming part of his identity. Which in any profession shows mental illness.
2. We ALL recognize that a great deal, if not almost all of those entering law enforcement are, in our opinion (and seemingly it IS factual if we put all the evidence together, but for the sake of argument say it's an "opinion") anybody who wants to be cop wants to for OBVIOUS reasons. Some of them are to feel big, scare and intimidate, and quite a few DO want to hurt others, to the point of killing them. So besides the military (possibly, and really I think law enforcment is #1) is there anyone who, in the REAL world that we live in, think that maybe we should just do our best to just recognize these individuals as unbalanced, like a blind rattlesnake (does that work?) and do our best to avoid provoking them, if not avoid them altoghter and NOT give them a reason to get put on their Sh!t list??
3. I know that what I said seems horrible. But so is life for a LOT of people, including many on this board. And we have to meet them on their turf right. If they were on ours, then we wouldn't have these issues. But again, I can see it. I suffered tremendous abuse for NO reason at the hands of others, with NO retailation for YEARS to the point of not caring if I lived for a long while (10-12) I never wanted to die, but there was little, if any joy in my life. It was 24/7 pain at home and at school.
Yet I was fortunate enough to be loved on by a group of people who saw the truth, and without script drugs or EVER retailiating against anyone, I have had the chance to heal and then help others in the only way I know how. And that is to RELATE to the "maniacs" who are almost all (I did meet one TRUE scary child) just broken kids turning to the easiest way "out", that being voilence. And because I can relate, then I can have a relat-ionship with them, and try to show them, through my life, and not just words, that there can be and is a brighter tomorrow for those brave enough to hold on and not give in.
Maybe I could have even helped that "pig". And I'm not the only one. There are MANY who have gone through the same, and share a similar story, and have served far longer, and many in much more dangerous situations than I. And for them, and from them, there is a great deal of respect.
I don't mean to use caps as yelling, but the internet doesn't allow me to show the broad range of emotions that I'm sure we all feel towards this subject.
Even if y'all do hate me, maybe it will provoke enough thought that we can all start contributing to SOLUTIONS that will turn the tide of this type of knee jerk hatered that's out there. Because even here in the middle of nowhere, a lot of these kids have the "Colombine Dreams" and I'm afraid that there will be MANY MANY more of these nightmares unless we DO something, ANYTHING, and not keep leaving it up to the schools, courts, councilers, and "pigs".
I'm sure we can at least agree on that.
Sorry for the spelling.
WhattheHeck
I thank you for saying what is unfortunately not said enough. I know exactly what you mean, I was tortured and taunted first for being a foster child (something I had ZERO control over) and later for being the only new kid in a town where the only people who "belonged" there were those with a relative in the grave. For those of you who were lucky enough to coast along in the middle crowd, good for you, but there are plenty of us who were put through hell, even by those who were supposed to protect us. I never had dreams of pulling off a columbine event, but I can tell you I know exactly what led those kids (and maybe this officer) to do what they did. I in no way support it, but I understand. People can be beyond cruel and treat fellow humans like garbage for no reason, other than to elevate their own crappy status.
One personal case for myself:
When I was 14, I was uprooted and moved across the country. I grew up in a decent sized town (pop 120,000) in between San Francisco and Sacramento. I moved to a town of fewer than 2,000 people. I went from being treated like shit for being a foster child to being treated like shit for being the only new kid in town. About three months after moving to town, I got jumped by 10 kids because one of their girlfriends liked me. I had not done ANYTHING to these kids, I was just a fresh piece of ass in a town where most of the people were related in one way or another. I got jumped in the school cafeteria, didn't even throw a single punch as it all happened way to fast. I was the ONLY kid who got suspended because the fucker who started it's uncle was the principal. And being that I had little support from the home front, shit like this continued on until I moved out of my parents house at the age of 16 and changed schools myself. Hell, shortly after columbine I was called into the administrators office because they saw me as a potential columbine threat. I had done nothing to raise suspicions but because I was "different" and forced to be an outcast, I was labeled as such. I didn't even wear a trench coat.
There was nothing wrong with me. I didn't threaten anyone. I was a quiet kid who sat in the corner and listened to music and read books. I ran and swam. I didn't tease other kids. I had no "real" friends. I was just someone who got thrown under the bus to elevate other peoples status. I did everything I could to be invisible.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
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I'm all for every 12 year old getting a gun put in his or her face by a future murderer (as I did) after running their mouths a bit too far (as I did) it will TEACH YOU that it's a GREAT idea to shut up 99.99% of the time.
That's retarded, oh that's unbelievably retarded. What happened to the good days where you run your mouth you get clocked, and if you can't stand up and take a fight, you got taught a lesson by getting your ass handed to you?
Is it because those people who hold those guns can't do shit but hold a gun? I'd probably have to say that's the main reason. Pussies.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Maverick]
#7501571 - 10/09/07 12:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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If someone dies as a result of getting their arse handed to them, what lesson will they learn?
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Visionary Tools]
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Visionary Tools said: If someone dies as a result of getting their arse handed to them, what lesson will they learn?
Well if you die from being punched then you're a pussy. ;P
Shooting someone isn't handing them their ass, it's being too pussy to beat them with your fists is what I'm saying.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Maverick]
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This cop is a total fuck up I agree. Shooting someone to death is beyond redemption.
With that said, I think both Whattheheck and TrippinDad made very insightful posts!
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
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Please describe to me, in clinical terms, what I have said that would classify me as a "psycho".
The fact that I've lived it? The fact that during my time of service, on three occasions, I was called to a situation where a child had threatened death to his teacher (2x) and her counselor (once) and the children were released into my custody, on their request, and with the blessing of everyone, including the circuit judge, who was currently overseeing their case?
The fact that I have passed, with ALL knowledge of my past in their hands, some of the strictest background checks for civilians (which means little if you've had a good past, but I've opened up and shared mine) given by the US government.
By these FACTS, and the facts that I have served FRONT LINE time and you are some SIDELINER with a lot of slurs, hateful words,and propaganda but few suggestions (not to mention a severe lack of credentials) as to what to do about the situation that we as a society are facing.
And please, before you go saying that "I don't know you or anything about you" remember that you are the one who judged me. And if you would please, show me where I judged ANYONE in this situation?? I judge the situation, and if you had been knee deep in it for the past 20 years the way I have, your tone may be more of a "what can we do to fix this" and less of one that most likely sounds like the hateful and instigating voice that drives WEAK and BROKEN individuals (or are you now ready to argue that happy and balanced folks open fire into crowds????? HMMMMMMMM????) into doing the unthinkable.
Point is, there is, and always has been a straw that breaks the camels back. And if you've even just driven a car in America these days, you can see that even upper class white women are a few Ritilans away from going to the pistol. Do I like it? No!!! Do I agree with it? NO!!! But burying all of our collective heads in the sand will not change whats going on.
I challenge anyone who would like to be a front line youth crisis mentor to PM me, and I PROMISE that unless you live in one of about 15 states, you too can be knee deep in the amazing mess that's brewing out there within days. Most case workers that I know are carrying 200+ kids and there's a never ending need for money and bodies.
Step up, or step back and let us "psychos" take care of those that you look at as trash. I KNOW that we ALL can make a difference.
But it might mean coming out from behind your computer and into the gutter.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Maverick]
#7502402 - 10/09/07 05:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wonder if a lot the tough guys on here are spoiled rich kids who listen to 50 Cent and "represent" with their keyboard as they write crappy poetry and curse those who do jobs that they are afraid to do themselves??
Just a thought.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
#7502419 - 10/09/07 05:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't know if he was all of that, but he was meant to be a good man, a loving father, a great boyfriend or husband and a valuable addition to our world, but for whatever reason, (and the reason may very well be that he was some wanna be tough guy who wanted to prove something to someone) he ended up being a murderer.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: meatcakeman]
#7502437 - 10/09/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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this is a story about one of my good buddies from back home. This happened about 3 years ago. Some cop in training shot him with a .357
first he wasnt even supposed to be carrying a gun, and even if he was, he shouldnt have had a .357
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Friends of Ole Miss alum John Michael Hearne continue to pray for the former student’s condition, four weeks after he was shot twice by a reserve deputy in Ocean Springs.
Hearne continues to undergo daily therapy for his wounds and has only recently been allowed to begin to walk.
On Saturday night, Aug. 22, Hearne went out with friends just after his return from a trip to Houston, Texas that involved an 11-hour drive for Hearne.
According to Hearne’s attorney, Buddy Gunn, Hearne had lost sleep for several days.
The following account of the shooting came from Gunn and various newspapers.
He and his friends went to a local night club in the Ocean Springs area, where they stayed into the morning.
Hearne left the area and walked approximately 1⁄2 mile to a Big B’s Chevron on Miss. 609 in St. Martin.
From there, he attempted to call his friends without success and fell asleep on the sidewalk.
The manager of the store then contacted the Jackson County Sheriff’s Department, which sent two deputies, including reserve deputy Ricardo Gildelatorrerocho, to awaken Hearne.
According to an eyewitness, the deputies prodded Hearne several times with a nightstick, and when he got up he was sprayed by an officer with a substance commonly referred to as “pepper spray,” a gulf coastal newspaper reported.
Disoriented by the spray, Hearne ran across the parking lot, and eventually ran toward the two deputies, when he was allegedly shot twice by Gildelatorrerocho with a .357 Magnum pistol, Gunn said.
The first bullet tore through Hearne’s abdomen, ruptured his small intestine and his colon and lodged in his back. The second bullet hit Hearne in the hand, then grazed his forearm, forced itself completely through his bicep into his torso and also lodged in his back, Gunn said.
After the shooting, Hearne was transported to Ocean Springs Hospital where he underwent multiple hours of surgery.
Following his surgery, he remained in the Intensive Care Unit for 10 days and was released from the hospital after approximately two weeks in the facility.
Gunn said that Gildelatorrerocho had never attended police academy and had only been on the job for 39 days.
“John Michael was shot by an untrained, unqualified, uncertified, uncompensated trainee,” Gunn said.
It is standard protocol that when a law enforcement trainee is involved in a shooting, the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation and the Mississippi Highway Patrol conduct an investigation.
The results of the investigation will be presented before a grand jury (as well as any other investigation the district attorney finds helpful), Gunn said.
He said the investigation was still underway, and that the case would not be presented to a grand jury before October.
Hearne graduated with high honors from the University of Mississippi in May 2004. He was a Carrier Scholar and was inducted into Phi Beta Kappa and was an Ole Miss cheerleader for several years.
Hearne attended Ocean Springs High school, where he was selected All-District as a football player, played trumpet in the band, was a member of the choir, and was voted Mr. Ocean Springs his senior year.
While the Hearne family would not comment on the case, Judy Hearne, John Michael’s mother, expressed her gratitude to the overwhelming support she said the family has received.
“We just truly appreciate all of the prayers,” she said.
Edited by YawningAnus (10/09/07 06:06 PM)
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-Er's for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Maverick]
#7502453 - 10/09/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know I know, but I AM NOT RETARDED MAN. The WORLD is retarded. I didn't ENJOY that. And the only reason I ran my mouth is that I finally dug down deep enough to find the courage, the same courage everyone encouraged my butt to "have" "find" or "gain", and told him, "man, someday you're going to get yours....." To which dude replied after school with a pistol in my grill. Again, he went on to kill his wife. But I wouldn't beg, and I didn't piss myself. He said, "Are you ready to die honky" and I said "What the Heck??"
I agree man, but DANG IT, these are the rules these crazy azz kids are playing by. Broken homes and everybody's Scarface and 50 Cent these days.
I agree, settle it with your hands, forget guns and knives. I AGREE A BILLION PERCENT. But agreeing with what SHOULD BE does not make it a reality.
Honestly, I would like for all of you, because you see how horrible and worthless this all is, to venture into the world of "disadvantage" children. Not so that you can fail and I can say, "I told you so" but so that you may be able to help, because you can. Maybe you already are. And if you are, then you know the pain of working with numerous children (and I'm only one guy) who WANT something better, who could be something better, and yet you go to their home and instantly you see where they're getting it from.
Naughty By Nature (the OPP guys) had a some years ago that had a line in it that I shared with most all of my kids.
"They wanna know how will I make it, How will I get out? I tell 'em I won't............. That's how"
And they felt that. And that hurts.
Food for thought.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Atheist]
#7502485 - 10/09/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I may be wrong here, but I don't think AR-15's are standard issue anywhere. But I could be wrong.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
#7502531 - 10/09/07 06:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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whattheheck said: I'm glad my prison daddy and all of my "uncles" growing up taught me that "If you're not willing to die for what you're about to say, don't say it".
Could someone point out to me just one instance in that story where it said the cop shot the kids for calling him a "worthless pig"?
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
#7502586 - 10/09/07 06:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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whattheheck said: I may be wrong here, but I don't think AR-15's are standard issue anywhere. But I could be wrong.
They certainly are standard issue.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
#7502641 - 10/09/07 06:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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whattheheck said: "If you're not willing to die for what you're about to say, don't say it"
QFT
Though maybe not for the same reasons.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#7502658 - 10/09/07 07:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Could someone point out to me just one instance in that story where it said the cop shot the kids for calling him a "worthless pig"?
it says it in the second link that was provided that this triggered the snap. Chances are it probably was true. And I'd have to agree with whattheheck's views as unpopular as they may be.
yes you do have the right of free speech. Common courtesy would suggest that you do not use that right to insult people. Common sense would tell you not to provoke a man who is obviously angry.
I was in a situation, where i was out, hoing to patch things up with my gf at the time, she ended up going off with a guy, and i saw them together, i must say i was on the verge of hitting him with anything i get my hands on. Like it was rage that i had never felt before, and looking back i'm shocked that i was so close to losing control, generally i'm not violent and am willing to flow with what comes to me. Anyway to make a point from that story: if someone would have insulted me at that point when i was on the verge, and i had access to a gun i would have used it.
As for the cop thing being relevant? for shroomery members: probably not. we tend to view cops differently than the rest of the population.
Generally it would be seen as outrageous for a cop to fall into such an emotional outburst. They're all just people. As for the cop haters: again, they're just people. The ones that abuse their power will obviously stick out more, than maybe the cop who saw you walking along smoking a joint and decided to look the other way.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#7503012 - 10/09/07 08:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: SapphireCat]
#7503113 - 10/09/07 09:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, there is ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD between what I heard reported, that being that he showed up and they started ragging on him (and chances are that he may have started the whole situation) and he returned to shoot the place up. The difference between that and an unprovoked attack is the key. Why? The laws of our country do understand when it comes to the ability of words to hurt others. Assault, slander, verbal malice (I believe that's what it is) etc show that speaking can and DOES harm individuals, corporations, and so on. Not to mention that mere words are so many times the match that sparks violence.
So am I saying that if he was provoked that it's cool, okay, that "they got what they had coming?" NO!!!! NEVER!! That was the hallucinations of others.
To sum it up, I'm angry. I'm angry that America is full of pack mentality bullies who crush the spirits out of other children, that nobody seems to think getting in a good old fistfight might be the way to go these days, that everybody who has an issue with a bully seemingly runs for a gun and instant fame. I'm saddened that the few teachers and administrators who do care have their lives threatened and now live in a state of fear due to these things, and many are leaving public service, leaving all the more room for crappy "teachers".
I'm sad that these children were murdered over words. And we'll never really know what the real story is. Having lived in a small town like that, where everyone literally knows almost everything about each other, there HAS to be a lot of background that we don't know. But they didn't need to die. Any of them.
Just sickening.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
#7503141 - 10/09/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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No problem, in the end we'll all die, which is why I find no trouble physically defending myself from someone I know I'll lose against
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO]
#7503210 - 10/09/07 09:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've always enjoyed your posts Panda, and Spicy Tuna Roll too. (I lurked for a couple years before I re-joined) I know I came off as insensitive, and without my background, it would seem that way. But this issue has been for over 20 years near and dear to my heart. I mean, I HATE having spiders in my house, but I do my best to capture them to set them free, and that's the heart I had before everything started.
So what was it that led me to the point of a Columbine? What is leading these kids to that point? Why for every 1 whattheheck per school in 1989 do we have 100 or more today? What can we do to stop these tragedies? I care. A great deal.
And sadly, after nearly three years of working in one of the best charter programs in the country (#'s wise) with some great people, I am no closer to an answer other than each one of us who has the capacity in them to find a child who's broken, and love them up unconditionally. Because almost all of them will break your heart at one point or another. It's hard.
I know this wasn't a school shooting, but in my heart it feels that way.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
#7503231 - 10/09/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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SapphireCat and whattheheck, I completely agree with you guys. I hope that no one saw my posts as approving or justifying his behavior. It disgusts me that shit like this happens. People don't realize how powerful words really are. People rise up with words. Wars and fights are generally started with words and then escalate to violence. I do not believe that we should live in a padded society where we are afraid to say something, out of offending another person, but we do need to choose when to speak and when to shut the fuck up. I am a non-violent person. The only fight I have ever been in was pretty much one-sided as I was jumped. Having done the roommate thing a number of times, I have had plenty of instances where a fight could have happened, but I am a person who walks away from shit like that because it gives time for someone to cool down and realize that maybe somethings wrong.
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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Maverick]
#7504160 - 10/10/07 03:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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This whole thing really shakes me up inside.
I wish they would tell us more about the guys reasons for shooting all these people. Having a fight with your ex girlfriend and getting called a pig..it just doesn't add up, there has to be more.
My honest feelings are there are so many people who deserve to be massacred, people without natural affection, people who are so vile and morally corrupt, who are so evil and have such a lack of consideration for other people's feelings..but we don't have the right to carry out that judgement. I wish there was real justice, not just aainst rape and murder, but against people who are mean hearted towards others in all aspects. I feel that these crimes are not just against one person, but against all humanity. We all live together in this world, and love builds up in love, and if you work hard to sow in love, you will reap the fruits of righteousness and peace. Likewise, our actions affect not just one person but like a ripple in water, our actions ripple throughout society, often for generations and generations.
I have had violent thoughts about quickly making an end of people who were unhuman, and I feel my feelings are natural. I don't think everyone will see things the same way, if they did the world would be so much of a different place, more compassionate and taking consideration more for thier words and actions. But I recognise there's a good way and a bad way to deal with that anger, and it's almost always not the good way to quickly make an end of someones live, even if they deserve it.
People mentioned him being allowed to be a deputy and not even old enough to drink beer. This does seem to be a very unique scenario and it's incedibly tragic. I think it's much more reasonable to see how someone of such a young age could reasonably join the army and not be allowed to be a cop, from what I can tell in the army there is a much grater level of structure and accountability to authority. As a cop, you are allowed a wide degree of lenience in how to interperet the law and carry out law enforcement.
I hope I didn't miss anything important. This really tears me up.
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