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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
    #7500801 - 10/09/07 08:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

it's kinda true.


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: 2FiNiTe]
    #7500815 - 10/09/07 08:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Wait how the fuck can a 20 year old become a cop/deputy sheriff. The kid can't even fucking drink a beer but he can make life/death situations in an instant. Fuck that. Giving a 20 year old that much authority is asking for trouble.


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: 2FiNiTe]
    #7500838 - 10/09/07 08:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I never liked young people, but I give these kids credit for calling him a pig.


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #7500839 - 10/09/07 08:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Irradiated_Feces said:
Wait how the fuck can a 20 year old become a cop/deputy sheriff. The kid can't even fucking drink a beer but he can make life/death situations in an instant. Fuck that. Giving a 20 year old that much authority is asking for trouble.




that's wtf i want to know.


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Merkin]
    #7500841 - 10/09/07 08:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

They let young dumb people join the military. Why not as cops?


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
    #7500843 - 10/09/07 08:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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whattheheck said:
Well, I hope that all those kids who had the big mouths in that house, and at all the other places where folks got shot up due to hurtful and hateful words felt it was worth it as they bled out.  "Sticks and Stones" is not a solid platform of defense in the real world.

I'm glad my prison daddy and all of my "uncles" growing up taught me that "If you're not willing to die for what you're about to say, don't say it".

And as a one time aspiring school shooter, circa 1989, I can tell you that at that point in my life, I would have had NO problem emptying my AR-15 into a few certain select crowds. Intersting that we had the same choice in weapons. I wonder if he had the conversion kit??

Anyhow, some innocent kids died no doubt, and they can thank their big mouth "friends".
I mean, for God's sake, this is AMERICA, we love our guns and are LOOKING for a reason to shoot. This guy was a cop, and while he may have been a women abuser, a punk, a bully, whatever, you had to guess that he had a gun near him, and MAYBE, JUST F*ING MAYBE, he might use it if his (obviously) broken heart got kicked around just a bit more.

I'm all for every 12 year old getting a gun put in his or her face by a future murderer (as I did) after running their mouths a bit too far (as I did) it will TEACH YOU that it's a GREAT idea to shut up 99.99% of the time.

Either that, or you're one of the few and the proud. The truly insane.

Every time I hear about this kind of crap, it makes me sick.

Let the games begin!! :rockon:




uh ...you shouldnt have to worry about cops killing you in your own house?

You should also feel free to say what you like in your own house?

They are giving severely unstable people guns and giving them authority to "protect and serve"?

there are so many things wrong with the picture and you used it as a way to prove how smart you think you are

by the way, you dont sound jaded at all. nice try. just sound like you havent spent much time in reality but living vicariously through people who have. caution: this doesnt make you wise!


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: bukkake]
    #7500864 - 10/09/07 09:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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bukkake said:
I never liked young people, but I give these kids credit for calling him a pig.




And that is why they got shot.

While this is a sad and horrible thing, we don't know the history behind all of this and the media is going to ignore the history behind all of this, just like they did for Columbine. Just turn the "perpetrator(s)" into animals and all is good. What people forget is that this person is also a human.

It reminds me of columbine. While Columbine was a horrid event that never should have happened, I know why it happened. People, especially kids, are insensitive, especially when backed by the "mob". I spent many of my 18 years as part of the foster care system and just happened to be placed into a school that was filled by upper middle class kids who had nothing better to do than torment me for not having what they "had". I was treated as diseased for being a foster child, something that I had ZERO control over. However, being that I was intelligent enough to realize that once school was over, I would never have to see those assholes again as they fight their way into materialistic mediocrity. Many people either don't realize this or don't have someone there to explain it to them. They don't realize that life can be better and that change can be made, it just has to come from within.

And yes, 20 years of age is too young to be put into a position of authority. However, those minds are most malleable, and can be turned into the "pigs" that we hate today. That is why police departments like such young minds.

At the same time, I still have to say those kids are at fault. First of all, whatever was going on was going on between that deputy and his exgirlfriend, not the deputy and those other kids. When your heart is hurting most is when you least need other people to continue to kick you into the ground. I lost a good friend in HS because when he was hurting most, other kids continued to kick his ass into the ground rather than shut their mouths and THINK. That night he took his own life. While it's sad that he's not around anymore, at least he didn't kill anyone else in his pain.


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #7500909 - 10/09/07 09:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I must submit, with respect, is the goal not to neutralize these maniacs? I have four children, I don't NEED them to be right, I NEED them to be able to understand situations and hopefully do their best in those situations, and that's how I relate to the situation.

I cannot imagine that you'd encourage anyone you care about to toss gasoline on the maniacal fires of a madman, UNLESS they were ready to fight and die for that situation. These dead kids might have done a lot with their lives, not the least of which could have been crusaders against police brutality, but we'll never know :sad:

This is a topic near and dear, for obvious reasons, to my heart. And I just cannot see where, and I would NEVER make the blanket statement, "They asked for it", just as a girl with a few too many and revealing clothes "asks" to be raped, I cannot see where insulting a guy who was from all accounts passionate about this girl and was getting bombed on by everyone, was going to "teach him a lesson" or make the world a better place.

Personally, I treat all police with respect and honor when I encounter them. Again, maybe it's because twice in life I've had police run the door of the house I was in screaming like madmen with weapons drawn, and I (and everyone else there) both times (once as a child, once as a college student where the Phoenix PD got the wrong door) ALL agreed that they were just ITCHING to shoot. Screw going out like that.

There have to be better ways to fight this problem. However, I DO understand your points about free speech and speaking out, and I do applaud the fact that we have the rights (for now, well kinda) to say what we want in this country.

Maybe I just spent too much of my life in self-preservation/survival mode to see it any other way??  :shrug:


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
    #7500953 - 10/09/07 09:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

you made your point in the last post, and the second one shows equally poor reasoning and misunderstanding. shut up. :foreheadslap:


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: moon_glue]
    #7501011 - 10/09/07 09:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

How is self-preservation poor reasoning?

Hes saying how sometimes needless violence happens just cause someone dosent know when to be quiet. That does not = to being a generally passive person. But unless you are prepaired to die for whatever it is you gotta say to an unstable person with a gun, but think twice. Whats wrong with that reasoning?


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
    #7501017 - 10/09/07 09:59 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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whattheheck said: I have four children



I hate it when tards reproduce. Stupidity is contagious, and you're a carrier.


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: 2FiNiTe]
    #7501040 - 10/09/07 10:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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2FiNiTe said:
Check it out

Fucking worthless pig.

Three of the victims were students at the small town's high school, and three were recent graduates.




Yeah I heard about that shit... fucked up it isn't too far from where I live. Fucking wisconsinites.....


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: moon_glue]
    #7501044 - 10/09/07 10:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

"When they kick at your front door
How you gonna come
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun?

When the law break in
How you gonna go
Shot down on the pavement
Or waiting on death row?"

Though even I realize that the Clash are presenting a false dichotomy with that one. How about we effect real change by considering new options, seeing as how all the old ones have proven untenable? Why don't we neither placate (nor taunt) our adversaries? Can't we open true dialog with them? Present them with questions or situations that catch them off-guard and retain their humanity?

I'm reminded of the March on the Pentagon and how they planned to bomb the pentagon with daisies. The CIA had a fake helicopter pilot answer the ad, and he never showed up for the job. So they handed them out to the protesters who put them in the guard's guns. The published newsphotos of this are some that stand out strongest in many minds.

This would not work in the story of the party and the cop, however, and the officer was ulimately in the wrong; the party-goers were only in the lesser-wrong.

I just want to be reminded that while we are guaranteed the right to remain silent, we are also guaranteed the right to speak our minds - especially to a public authority in our own homes. Let's make sure that what's in our minds are worth speaking.

My thoughts and prayers go out to those who were killed and their families.



Edit: changed "enemies" to "adversaries" - that word is much more betterer.


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
    #7501066 - 10/09/07 10:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i'd seek therapy right away if i were you.


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #7501148 - 10/09/07 10:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Lets focus on the positives that came out of the situation at least theres one more dead cop thats off the streets.


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #7501184 - 10/09/07 10:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

6 people died out of a town of 2000.

in terms of loss of life relative to population, thats 12x worse than 9/11 for that town!


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: LucidDream]
    #7501193 - 10/09/07 10:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I love being hated by folks like you all, it's lets me know I'm on the right path.

BTW, please show me the holes with my "theory".

Since most of The Shroomery is about anarachy and law of the jungle, survival of the fittest type of stuff, what's wrong with this?? Why do you celebrate the "cop" being dead and not those who provoked him to such lenghts? Maybe they were all going to grow up and be cops, or judges, or one of the other groups of folks that you all hate so much.

Would you have celebrated their deaths then too??

The facts are the facts, either violence is a means to an ends or it isn't. I say it isn't and is never justifiable, and that words are merely the overflow of what is in our hearts. They hated him, he hated them, now they are ALL dead.

Because of hate. NOT BECAUSE HE WAS A COP!!!! WAKE UP!!!!!!


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #7501248 - 10/09/07 11:10 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Visionary Tools said:
Quote:

whattheheck said:
Can't blame the fact that he was a "cop".

Although I AM interested to know if he was on, or had been on any medication in his life.




Go eat your cake of fail. He's a police man, and swore to uphold the constitution, you know, the thing that American's died for to escape from tyranny? "Fucking worthless pig" whilst accurate in this situation, is NEVER A JUSTIFICATION FOR KILLING SOMEONE

Then again, it's like police officers are being trained to beat and oppress, rather than protect and serve.




My point precisely. There's another shooting in California this morning, and MY POINT WAS, people are loving to open fire in America, and these kids NEEDED to see it coming. What is the point of provoking him??? ANSWER THAT!!! Nobody has. American kids need to be taught about the REALITES of of our society, one of the new ones being, when an obviously nutso guy has a weapon on him, UNLESS YOU WANT a fight to the death, LEAVE IT ALONE!!!

My bet is that it was the one "tough guy" in the group popping off, and that was enough.

And if you think this makes me happy, I need a show of hands of who here (besides me) has served disadvataged children for little money, with recognized results.

I help because I've been there. And I'm willing to open up and be honest. And that always draws hate from those who love to judge, yet have never walked the path.

I want to figure out ways to protect and keep our children alive, and I have a community of people who KNOW that I contribute to the cause. What about you all?? Or do you sit behind a board cursing out the "PIGS" and anybody who has ACTUALLY DONE something to improve the situation??

I never shot anyone. I can't even bring myself to buy a gun. But there was a time, when I was all of 11, that I could no longer take the abuse, and there was NOBODY there for me, so I DO understand the mindset of these guys. And I am not ashamed. For that is why I can now HELP these "manics", because I FEEL & KNOW their pain, and they KNOW it, so my words carry the weight and truth and are backed up by endless documentation from everyone from teachers to the state mental hospital.


Next......


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #7501258 - 10/09/07 11:13 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Amen to that. I pray for MUCH stricter laws for law enforcement. Something good needs to come out of this tradgedy. I know 5 people who have entered this line of work, and honestly 4 of them should BE in jail, and the other is a very good man, 3rd generation law enforcement and lives what it means in the truest sense of the word.


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Re: Cop kills 6 party go-ers for calling him a "worthless pig". [Re: whattheheck]
    #7501260 - 10/09/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

calling someone names is not justification for murdering them. you're a pyscho. are you going to come kill me now?


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