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OfflineCephalic
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Are these aborts OK to eat? *DELETED*
    #7499439 - 10/08/07 08:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: Cephalic]
    #7499458 - 10/08/07 08:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

That could just as well be them bruising from being cut down the center. the parts that didn't come in contact with the knife look pretty good, see where it's hollow in the center and there's that divide? Nice and white. I think you just bruised them


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: DigitalNomad]
    #7499492 - 10/08/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:borat:wow those are some great pics of aborts!
they look fine to me, what is the strain B+?
all of my aborts bruise deep blue once i touch them


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: flushme]
    #7499506 - 10/08/07 09:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

They are edible but I think they are close to that point where the abort begins to rot. Up to you. I don't think any harm will come to you from eating them but I'd hurry up and dry them if I were you.


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: DigitalNomad]
    #7499510 - 10/08/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

My guess would be lack of water to the fruit as the culprit for the bluing...and yes also a little bruising.....but I always cut my large fruits down the center during the drying process to speed it up, and I never noticed any severe bruising from the blade.


Still, your's look 100% fine to me, nothing abnormal.


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? *DELETED* [Re: yepyepyep]
    #7499521 - 10/08/07 09:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: Cephalic]
    #7499527 - 10/08/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Those aborts look fine to eat.


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: derx]
    #7499534 - 10/08/07 09:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for all the fast input guys. Paranoia level has reduced dramatically :smile:



Here's another question for ya, I posted this in contam forum but no one seems to be checking that.

I found this tan stuff on a cake, that didn't look like vermiculite. I scraped at it with a tweezer and it broke away almost like soil would. It dug its way into the cake, but healthy shrooms are still growing on it. Should I throw out the cake?

This tan/brown stuff has been eating its way into one of my cakes, yet there are still healthy shrooms growing off of it. What should I do?






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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: derx]
    #7499541 - 10/08/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

there all good, but when in dout throw it out, its only a small amout


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: DigitalNomad]
    #7499571 - 10/08/07 09:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I agree that they are that color because they are reacting to being cut not due to rot.

I would have left them on the cake until you picked the larger ones.


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: cbiegel]
    #7499583 - 10/08/07 09:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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cbiegel said:
I agree that they are that color because they are reacting to being cut not due to rot.

I would have left them on the cake until you picked the larger ones.




Sweet, I was just taking precautions because lots of people were saying that once the caps turn black they'll infect the cake.


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: Cephalic]
    #7499598 - 10/08/07 09:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't like the look of that contamination. I'd either discard them or put any cakes with that stuff in another FC so it dosen't spread.


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: cbiegel]
    #7499647 - 10/08/07 09:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

what contamination?


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: flushme]
    #7499683 - 10/08/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

That creepy tan stuff.


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: cbiegel]
    #7499744 - 10/08/07 10:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The blueing is most likley from the active psylicybin in the mushroom oxidizing. They would be fine to eat except that nasty tan shit on your cake is a contamination. Throw that shit out as far away from your grow as possible right now man. You will ruin the rest of your cakes.


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: shroomerite]
    #7499764 - 10/08/07 10:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

that tan stuff looks mighty suspicious. as does that gray looking stuff on your cake


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: enesi]
    #7499784 - 10/08/07 10:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Throwing it out right now. Can I keep the shrooms growing on it or should those go too?1


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: Cephalic]
    #7499792 - 10/08/07 10:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

as long as there isn't any contam on the fruits themselves, i would reckon they are fine. I would get a few more opinions though.


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: enesi]
    #7499815 - 10/08/07 10:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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as long as there isn't any contam on the fruits themselves, i would reckon they are fine. I would get a few more opinions though.


the spores from the contam will definitly be on the shrooms. You wont be able to see them and depending on what it is, it could give you serious food poisoning. Do not eat. Throw it out!:eek:


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: enesi]
    #7499816 - 10/08/07 10:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks, I'll wait for a few more opinions. There are some healthy new pins growing on the bottom that I really dont want to see go to waste :\

I took out the cake and scraped out the contamination as best I could, which dug pretty deep into the cake. I also scraped off the greyish stuff on the sides of the cake, it looks nice and pretty now, but I'm wondering if I shouldn't let myself be fooled and toss it anyway.


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: enesi]
    #7499820 - 10/08/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

fuck that..garbage


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: Cephalic]
    #7499825 - 10/08/07 10:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Thanks, I'll wait for a few more opinions. There are some healthy new pins growing on the bottom that I really dont want to see go to waste :\

I took out the cake and scraped out the contamination as best I could, which dug pretty deep into the cake. I also scraped off the greyish stuff on the sides of the cake, it looks nice and pretty now, but I'm wondering if I shouldn't let myself be fooled and toss it anyway.




You just spread spores from that contamination all over the place by digging at it. And if it is inside the cake as bad as you say, those shrooms are definitly affected by it. Your crazy to keep those. DO NOT EAT.


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: shroomerite]
    #7499849 - 10/08/07 10:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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enesi said:
as long as there isn't any contam on the fruits themselves, i would reckon they are fine. I would get a few more opinions though.


the spores from the contam will definitly be on the shrooms. You wont be able to see them and depending on what it is, it could give you serious food poisoning. Do not eat. Throw it out!:eek:


guess it depends on how severe it is. i've ingested shrooms from cakes that had started showing signs of green before they were fully matured with no negative effects. If it's deep into the cake as bad as he says..then i wouldn't try it. Was probably contamed from the start if it's that bad.


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: enesi]
    #7499857 - 10/08/07 10:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

most green molds are not harmful to humans. That shit on that cake was not green. It looks nasty, why would you chance it?


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: Cephalic]
    #7499878 - 10/08/07 10:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ignore that last one... I kept scraping and scraping, and it goes sooo deep, so I heated up a knife and sliced it to bits and this is what i see:






soooo i think it should be just white on the inside of a cake, not little dark margerine looking things???

so the only question that remains is whether i can eat the very healthy looking ones that grew out of it.


EDIT: QUESTION ANSWERED, thanks guys :smile:

I hope I didn't inhale too many of those spores :\
I'll let you know if I come down with any symptoms.
As for those shrooms, I'll toss em.


Edited by Cephalic (10/08/07 10:59 PM)


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: Cephalic]
    #7499929 - 10/08/07 11:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry to drag this on, RR responded in my Contam thread on it with:

"Yea, I'd toss it. That's mold. The fruits will be ok once dry. If the weather is suitable outdoors, you might try to let it finish up there. If not, pick the small fruits and toss it."

I'm throwing out the cake, that parts done, and I guess I'll throw out the ones that were attached to it now that they were rubbed with this stuff.... but there are some in the dehydrator that were picked from the top of the cake, nowhere near the infection, before i even decided to investigate this matter, let alone pick at it. can i keep those or should i reach into the dehydrator and toss them? they look pretty good....


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: Cephalic]
    #7500022 - 10/08/07 11:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Also... if someone has any inkling as to what that contamination was (...and maybe how harmful it is to inhale??)


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: Cephalic]
    #7500080 - 10/09/07 12:04 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

When I have situations like that I usually save the good looking shrooms from a cake like that and use them for a grain alcohol extraction. I figure that this will kill any spores that may have floated onto them.

And that cake definetly applies to this. Pull the fruits that are untouched, and discard A.S.A.P.!

Any second opinions on my alcohol tincture theory?


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: Agave]
    #7500126 - 10/09/07 12:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Wow Agave that is interesting. Kinda noob here. Do you have a link on the grain alcohol extraction process?


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: Cephalic]
    #7500327 - 10/09/07 01:44 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

For a few mushrooms and the sake of a cake you would be better to bin it mate aint worth riskin it,you can colonise another cake in just under two weeks using lc so why risk it ???


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Re: Are these aborts OK to eat? [Re: grandesign]
    #7500370 - 10/09/07 02:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

There is a very definite change in how a fruit is when the contamination begins to effect it. Granted, that might not be uniform but I've never seen any proof that a contaminant can infiltrate the network and have the fruit still go about its business as if it is not infected with something. Generally the fruit will rot, and quickly at that. IE, its pretty obvious when you can no longer consider a fruit safe.

Understandably many are lax to be supportive of eating it and I just offer this point of view so that you have a bit of a grasp of what is probably true (along with what is wisely precautionary)

Assuming you have plenty of stuff I see no reason to risk things and eat it.


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