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Sophistic Radiance
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Re: Mushrooms + DNA thought = THEORY [Re: DigitalNomad]
#7499449 - 10/08/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've had a similar thought on DNA once, after drinking 7g of cubies in a tea... except it wasn't so much just about memory encoding, but the idea that the DNA molecule, itself, and the vast networks it forms, are a single uninterrupted consciousness. Human thought is some reflexive oddity, a bubble of consciousness arising from a larger bubble of consciousness - at once redundant and significant, for we are split and multifaceted, but nonetheless of the same material as that larger bubble.
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Boots
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Makes sense. Good post.
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Skeeblix
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Re: Mushrooms + DNA thought = THEORY [Re: Boots]
#7499890 - 10/08/07 10:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Definitely something to keep me pondering on a sleepless night. The idea that four simple amino acids can combine to form the vast variety of life available on Earth is absolutely incredible.
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Re: Mushrooms + DNA thought = THEORY [Re: Skeeblix]
#7499910 - 10/08/07 11:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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A, T, C, and G are actually physical compounds, you know. It's not just "letters". I forget the chemical names for them, but the "stuff" between the A, T, C, and G's aren't A's, T's, C's, or G's. If the 'stuff' was that, we would know and easily be able to classify it so.
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badchad
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Re: Mushrooms + DNA thought = THEORY [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
#7500523 - 10/09/07 05:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Non-coding DNA is present at birth. If all this DNA is encoded memories and information, why don't we have this information present at that point?
What about memories that form instantaneously? It's unlikely that they are encoded in DNA.
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grandesign
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Re: Mushrooms + DNA thought = THEORY [Re: mr.coolass]
#7500641 - 10/09/07 06:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
mr.coolass said: give all my memories to my kids, using genes!:D
I would say give all your knowlege to your kids rather than memorys that could be weird like memorys of doing mum lol
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boletusoftruth
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Re: Mushrooms + DNA thought = THEORY [Re: grandesign]
#7501554 - 10/09/07 12:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Okay ya I'm starting to disregard my last theory after a lot of thought but still a great conversation to get into.
A= Adenine T= Thymine C= Cytosine G= Guanine
I'm also thinking however, how far exactly are we from being able to CREATE entirely in a lab, life. We know for example through the human genome sequencing experiment the exact order of AT CG in the human body. We also have quite readily available the technology to "cut" DNA at exactly a certain point. Then just as DNA ligase joins together pieces of DNA we can piece segments of DNA together. So in theory don't we have the ability to create a completely alien life form? We can just inject the synthetic DNA into a eukaryotic cell and see what it grows into. A good example of this is the rabbit which was injected with DNA that coded the GFP protein to be created. http://www.purdue.edu/UNS/html3month/2005/051004.Alstatt.bunny.html Normally this protein is present in jelly fish and is what causes them to glow. However the rabbit was able to "read" the DNA sequence and now it produces GFP causing it to grow green in color. If we can do this than surely we must be able to create a new life form...
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badchad
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Re: Mushrooms + DNA thought = THEORY [Re: boletusoftruth]
#7501594 - 10/09/07 01:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's far more complex than simply "injecting" DNA. You cannot just insert "any old gene" into a cell (it takes a lot of effort to insert a plasmid into bacteria).
Futher, it's also a matter of timing. Different genes need to be "turned on" and "turned off" at precise moments and in response to many different stimuli.
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boletusoftruth
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Re: Mushrooms + DNA thought = THEORY [Re: badchad]
#7501606 - 10/09/07 01:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well yes i know its alot more complicated than injecting DNA, however more details are necessary. And you don't even really have to inject it. Different bacterium can literally assimilate DNA through their membranes and take whatever traits may be present in that DNA.
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Re: Mushrooms + DNA thought = THEORY [Re: boletusoftruth]
#7501703 - 10/09/07 02:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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More importantly though, where can I get one of these:

Crime against nature or not, it's trippy as fuck all. I wonder what other creatures would be good to glow? Penguins, tarsiers, ants, platypuses, and ferrets probably...
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Re: Mushrooms + DNA thought = THEORY [Re: boletusoftruth]
#7501708 - 10/09/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ain't it great how when we're tripping we solve the mysteries of the universe?
Then a week later, what was I thinking????
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SymmetryGroup8
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Re: Mushrooms + DNA thought = THEORY [Re: El Zorro]
#7501718 - 10/09/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Haha. Yeah once tripping on shrooms I swear I was going to come up with the ultimate equation to explain reality...It's all connected, and all I had to do was come up with the equation.. LOL.
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