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Offlinebiospun
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Need Trip Reports from FEMALES
    #7495274 - 10/07/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I am basically trying to compare and contrast S. divinorum breakthroughs of males vs. females. Many of the reports posted on the Shroomery are from men, but there aren't many from women. I am inquisitive about this because of all the females I've spoken to about their experiences, they all had positive or nonnegative experiences. Many males have frightening experiences (not all, of course). This makes me wonder if possible estrogen interacts with Salvinorum. Or maybe the entities lurking in the Salvia dimension are seeking matriarchal guidance, or....anyway. Whatcha got?

please read several posts down to get to the second poll(s) i added.
male or female
You may choose 2
positive or negative experience
You may choose many


Votes accepted from (10/07/07 12:00 PM) to (No end specified)
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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #7495523 - 10/07/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Here's the story about the first time I broke through on salvia (I am a female).

I held in my hit of smoked leaf material as long as I could without passing out.  I had loaded one small bowl into a bong, and took it all in one big hit. Set the bong down, laid down and waited a moment. I did feel somewhat scared when the effects first began, and tried to move in a fit of panic, but found myself unable to sit upright. I then decided that it was no good trying to fight this and that I would just lay there and let whatever was going to happen, happen.

Before I even finished exhaling, everything in my field of vision moved "down and to the left" and started to spiral. My skull split in half down the middle, then my head folded completely inside out on itself, followed by the rest of my body.

I then fell into the bottom of a huge black void. I could "see" myself somehow, and I was a giant mass of non-descript fleshy material. There were no obvious features, just a giant slowly-wriggling ball of flesh with no apparent purpose other than to exist. I felt as if there were presences around me, and even somehow perceived their sex (one was male, the other was female), even though in reality I was all alone in my apartment. They spoke to me, but I was unable to understand what they were saying. It sounded very distant and garbled.

After about 15 minutes, (but what seemed like no time at all to me) I was aware enough to check the clock to see how long I'd been out and instantly got up to do it again. I was in somewhat of a state of shock, and had to see if the effects would be the same. They were. This was the first time I had ever had full-blown hallucinations like that. Mushrooms show you pretty patterns and LSD also fucks with what is already there, but this was like a whole other world.

I spent another hour or so fully recovering from my experience enough to talk about it and feel reality begin to settle back in. I was hot and sweaty and confused, and I haven't looked at any anything the same since. :smirk:

Hope that's what you were looking for...


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: adrug]
    #7495908 - 10/07/07 10:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

wow... O.O


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: adrug]
    #7495958 - 10/08/07 12:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

very cool trip report!
short, yet detailed. Nice


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: boxcarguy07]
    #7495993 - 10/08/07 12:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Wow... Salvia sounds like some intense stuff.

If I do more psychedlics I would like try it once day.


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
    #7496125 - 10/08/07 01:44 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you very much, adrug, for the report. it was exactly what i'm looking for. experiences from females. males are welcome too. i want to compare and contrast. keep them coming


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
    #7496130 - 10/08/07 01:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't care how much it makes you hallucinate, it feels absolutely nasty.


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7496155 - 10/08/07 02:03 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, it feels horrible to me too. I dunno did it once, and I found myself in a 2D world! Amazing! The only thing that sucked is that I could not move from where I was, almost stuck still there in my body. I was with 2 of my friends but once I was in salvia world that was no longer a concern. I was just me and my close surroundings in my range of vision at that point in time. Lasted about 5-10 mins but felt like forever and that I was STUCK as in never leaving, I guess all around my soul and mind were not as strong as they are now so maybe it will be better next time. Im a male by the way:bigblunt:


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: ZShroom]
    #7497007 - 10/08/07 10:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Male report:

1st time:
Smoked 2 hits held in for 30 seconds each from a bong of 10x salvia. It hit me as I was blowing out the second hit. My friends melted away, and I walked out of the bathroom (which is where we smoked) saying "Oh my God, oh my God...". I walked into my friends room.

I was experiencing a memory kind of, but one that never happened. In my head, I knew it was a memory, but it also felt like I was there. I was on a front porch of a wooden house on a long dirt road. Me and some friends (who were made up... people I've never seen before) were smoking some weed on the front porch. But the weed was laced with salvia, and as I smoked the weed, the salvia hit me again. Keep in mind, this is all going on in my head. As it hit me in my "memory", it launched me back into the real world. I remember turning to one of my friends and saying "Dude, I have done this before..." Very bizarre.

Then I was gone again, and I lay down on the bed. We had a CD playing that was all Linkin Park songs, except done instrumentally by an orchestra. Very cool music. I started singing the words along with the music, but had to stop because I couldn't stop laughing. It seemed so ridiculous to me that I was remembering words and singing them.
One of my friends freaked out on salvia that night and had to be detained. Another one picked up a bottle of gatorade, opened it to drink it, but then thought he was in a red river, so he started swimming. The gatorade splashed everywhere and got all over the walls and the floor. Haha, it was a messed up night.

2nd time:

I smoked, and as it hit me, two angels landed on my shoulders. One on my left, and one on my right. And I could see both of them, even though I was looking straight ahead and can't see either shoulder unless I turn my head. They spoke to me, and said "Welcome to the Salvia world".

Then I went and lay on my friends bed. I was watching his fan spin, but to me it wasn't a fan, it was a factory. Each blade of the fan was like a conveyor belt, and it was turning so fast and I was watching all these products fall from blade to blade at a very high rate of speed. I could see dozens of little workers too. At the end of the trip, as it subsided, I could see, or at least sense the presence of, an evil female figure who was overseeing the whole operation. She was exploiting the workers and was just very evil. I screamed "You evil bitch!" and then came down. I was a bit shocked at the experience and have never been able to really find any meaning in it.

Anyways, hope you enjoyed my trip reports. First time ever writing any!


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: boxcarguy07]
    #7497604 - 10/08/07 01:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I've always had good experiences on it. (female)


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: losertryagain]
    #7506568 - 10/10/07 06:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

thanks guys. wow, boxcarguy, that thing with the fan is something similar to what i saw once. I was smoking in the only dark room, which happened to be a bathroom (the light tends to weaken hallucinations). The bathtub faucet was steadily dripping, i could see enough to see that there was a drain. then it was not a drain, but a spiral vortex. i was somewhere within the spiral. the loops of the spiral that were larger in diameter than the one i was on were waving. there were floating pink elephants on going along the waves. there was music, and an entity also welcomed me, as in your trip. wow. it is amazing that i hear about these welcoming entities from so many others.


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: losertryagain]
    #7506590 - 10/10/07 06:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Care to elaborate, Losertryagain?


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #7517651 - 10/14/07 09:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

hey guys, keep adding to this thread. in hindsight, i should have set up the poll a different way, but i don't think that option is there. i have percentages of how many females and males voted as well as the quality of the experiences. but that doesn't tell me which gender of those who are voting is having positive/negative experiences. i'll see if i can tweek it somehow...dunno. but thanks for the input. give me more!


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #7517664 - 10/14/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ok, i'm going to add two polls, one for only males and one for only females. the choices will be weather you have had more positive experiences on salvia or more negative, or whether they were none of the above
males
You may choose only one
females
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from (10/14/07 12:00 PM) to (No end specified)
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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #7521375 - 10/15/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

only 2 votes from females on that revised poll?  c'mon ladies of the shoomery, get in this thread.  leave trip reports pleasssss!  :thanx:


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #7521520 - 10/15/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well I can say for my sister, she did not like it at all. She said she got really hot and was pissy on the come down.


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: BirdsIView]
    #7522169 - 10/16/07 06:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i dont know any chicks who smoke salvia, sorry!


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7523344 - 10/16/07 02:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

it is quite an intimidating drug at threshold, and for some reason even the most minute dose would make me fall into rapid unconsciousness... i dont know what the heavy duty sleep factor is, i know of 1 other female who gets the same reaction as me and it might be cause we (used to) do shitloads of meff...


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: Crystal G]
    #7532759 - 10/18/07 07:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

hahah. i dunno, i used to dabble with that wretched meff stuff as well but i don't get the same reaction....except for once when i experimented with mixing several strains.


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #7569774 - 10/28/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

curiouser and curiouser


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #7569782 - 10/28/07 02:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Heh..


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: Gomp]
    #7571924 - 10/29/07 05:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

me and a couple people rolled a blunt and we put a little over top the weed and smoked it it was a reg blunt and it got us high as fuck not salvia high but like good weed high i didnt like it too much


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: milkman]
    #7578671 - 10/30/07 10:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

so it was not a good weed high, milkman?


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #7578834 - 10/30/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hi there, I was coming in to post some thoughts and saw this thread. I thought I'd add to it.

I'll start off by saying that I am indeed female. I've never used salvia extracts, only ever fresh salvia.

The salvia I'm running with tonight is/was x20.

When smoking fresh Salvia, I usually get a light euphoric air about my existence, I wouldn't say that I've ever had a "break through" experience. I've also chewed fresh salvia with similar light euphoric effects.

The first time tonight, I packed only a small amount to test it. Two hits at most. The experience that followed was quite short, but meaningful in a vague sort of way.

Upon taking the first hit, I looked over and saw the normal electronic dots of light (I decided to do it in the dark to assist in clarity) and saw slight swirling. I giggled because it was a trick of the mind and knew I couldn't possibly be experiencing effects yet. I took another hit.

As I sat on my bed facing out into a dark room I began experiencing very strong deja vu. I was sitting in my room and thus I could see my nightstand, but mentally I felt I was sitting on a curb, looking to the left. I was sitting with two people, never saw their faces and couldn't tell you who they were -- they were friendlies though, nothing negative there. I'm holding the bowl and feeling nervous of being "seen". There was no-one on the street, and the friendlies were reassuring me that everything was ok. -- I've experienced this exact thing before, was somewhat odd.

Its been a couple hours since the first experience so the transition to the next experience is quite blurry, and not exactly there.

The next and last thing I remember is looking out over a type of horizon. Below was human consciousness and above the horizon was a higher consciousness. I was no longer beside these two friendlies, they were above the horizon and I was still below it. The horizon was similar in appearance to the horizon of a soap bubble. Clear with a very thin blue/grayish layer. The friendlies were giggling and laughing at me because I was unable to follow them beyond the horizon of the bubble... they decided to retreat into the abyss because I wasn't ready and I began sinking away from the horizon and back into consciousness.

I gave myself some time to shake off the effects and return to normalcy. I packed another small amount into the bowl and took my first hit.

I saw myself getting into a car, with the curb I witnessed in the first experience behind me, there were people talking to the person I was with -- on the other side of the car. I stood at the car between the open door and the car, and took another hit. [edit -- I remembered something] as I was taking the first hit, I was able to back out of the experience by turning my head. I felt the effects only on the part of my face that was aligned to the direction my body was facing, in turning my head or leaning back, I was able to "back out" of the experience. I felt no physical connection to the salvia in the parts of my head/face that weren't facing forward.

I laid back, closed my eyes and just sat in abyss before returning.

Two things strike me as interesting. The actual experience of being in my room (I've recently changed the arrangement of my furniture as I'm in the process of relocating) was familiar, I knew what was occurring and I recognized it. However, my furniture has never been arranged this way in the past so I would have no previous point of reference.

The other was that the car I was standing by. I was standing on what would be the driver's side of the car (in America) and the other person, though I never actually saw them, was on the passenger's side. This itself isn't weird, but the car was not an American car but a European car -- the driver/passenger placements were reversed.

I'm giving myself a little more time to shake off the previous experiences, and then I plan on smoking one more time tonight. The last two experiences I've not taken more than two hits, I'm going to pack enough for 4 and see where it takes me. I'll post back later.

Packed enough for 4 hits, took it in two big hits and held it in for what seemed like 20 secs. Began arguing with myself that the bowl was "theirs" and not mine which morphed into an argument that I was there and not here... lol Sally is no joke.

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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: Acinaxuz]
    #7578908 - 10/30/07 11:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'm male, I broke through on my first try with salvia 20x. Always taken to another dimension, always a pleasant experience.

My girlfriend on the other hand has never broken through, just REALLY giggily for 5-10 minutes.


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: Acinaxuz]
    #7578924 - 10/30/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think its funny people want to differentiate their experiences based on the sex of the individual.

If you are all fucked up about your hormones, then try to realize that its the SAME FUCKING PLACE.

Males and females are highly emotional.
Your best guy friend might be psychologically observed as a female which most certainly is not a bad thing.

Just fucking try to keep at the same wave length as the opposit sex.

Yer the same fucking persons.
People who try to make men and women out to be totally different kinda make me want to vomit.

Female takes 20x salvia and freaks the hell out.
I have seen that.

Gender is a non-issue in my opinion.
I have only seen a girl freak the hell out.
It was not like the shit you see on youtube when males flail around acting like fools.
This was a smart girl trying to find her place there.
Much like how boys react.

Dont take it during your period I guess.
Other than that its the same fuckin shit.

Women are attracted to men, and men are attracted to women.
During a heavy psychedelic experience, I hope that some would agree that we become one.

I have seen freak outs with both sexes.
They are only somewhat different.
Not a big difference though.

Smart and heavy folk hold their own no matter their sex.
Even if they are having a really hard time.


Menstrual cycles are another story but still more of the same.
Amazing trips between me and my X were experiences during such a time.

My point is that its all very similare.

Your sex is a benifit, not something that seperates you from the other sex in such a state of mind.

Culture is the main thing that makes women different from men.
Not our mental composition or bodily functions.

All intertwined, somewhat different, but all the same in a very real way.


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: yageman]
    #7590000 - 11/03/07 12:59 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

MMMMKkk, yagaman, missing the point:

I am asking for male reports and female reports and the differentiation of who is sharing their experience. Point blank. No sexist opinions implied. I am thankful that permutations of posible outcomes resulted in the devopment of my ebryo into a female. This has nothing to do with the shedding of the ego, gender lables, roles, or anything else of that nature. One reason am courious because of both scientific and metaphysical reasons that I have had insight into. So, do you have any breakthrough experiences guided by the conscious meanderings of the Diviner's Mint that you care to share?


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: Acinaxuz]
    #7590011 - 11/03/07 01:07 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Wow, Acinaxuz,

I never cease to be astonished at the similarities among reports from various people who couldn't possible have spoken with one another. The two people/entities that you saw occur in the experiences of many with whom I have spoken. The often seem to beacon, reassure. The vision that occurred after your intial interaction with those two is also reported by others. Thank you so much for sharing that.


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #7590722 - 11/03/07 11:20 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I can't believe how many people on this forum are into salvia, salvia barely affected me and I had a strong extract with a torch lighter. On the marijuana forum I go to salvia isn't a big deal at all and I have never heard crazy stories about salvia like I do on here. Maybe once you're exposed to mushrooms you will trip easier on salvia?


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7590749 - 11/03/07 11:36 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

There was only one time I tried salvia, and I did not enjoy the effects at all. I believe it was either 15 or 20x, and I took one enormous rip out of a bowl until I killed the entire thing.

This was followed by my ass hitting down onto the seat before I could even finish exhaling the hit. It felt like a million tiny HOT metal hands pulling my skin to the left for about 5 minutes....very very intense physical feeling of being pulled in a specific direction. After that it was 30 minutes of an uncomfortable head high which pissed me off because it was very disorienting, and I didn't even feel safe to ride me motorcyle home until about half an hour after taking the hit.

It wasn't the best setting I could have been in to try the stuff, but still I would conclude salvia is not for me and I'm in no rush to try it again. (I'll just stick to my actually herb)


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: bagsofun]
    #7591699 - 11/03/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah lou that is probably true. I did it with two of my friends who had not had past experiences with mush but wanted to try salvia. We all did it at the same time outside....nice set and setting.......I was in a 2d world for etnerity...they didnt feel a thing. of coarse i had never done salvia before trying mush, so who knows


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: ZShroom]
    #7592565 - 11/03/07 09:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, bagsofun- you did totally what you need to do to enter the salvia realm as far as i can tell. it paralyzes your body because you don't need it to astrally project into that strange land.


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: yageman]
    #7592575 - 11/03/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

heya, check out the poll (not the one at the very beginning of the tread, i edited it a bit on down a few posts) if you haven't already responded.  Thanks for your input! :thanx:


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #7600811 - 11/05/07 10:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

so, ladies, only 4 of you have taken the poll.  though it is following my hunch, more responses from you girlsies, pretty please :tongue:


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #7642183 - 11/15/07 10:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

interesting, the males are at 52% positive right now. Moving up, are ya guys? thanks again for the input. there just aren't many girls on the shroomery, eh?


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    #7642292 - 11/15/07 10:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm a male, and these are my Salvia experiences:

I don't know what my deal is, but I bought some 15x Salvia, and had to smoke almost half of a gram to get the full effects. I would feel something slight every time after smoking a few hits, and it would always end completely after about 2 minutes until I finally broke through. In total I probably packed four relatively small bowls. I don't know if it was bad Salvia, or if I have a really high tolerance. Even after I broke through, the experience didn't last more than 5-10 minutes. It was quite an experience, but honestly I didn't even feel like I was personally experiencing anything. I lied back and closed my eyes, and as soon as that happened, I started seeing and talking to other people in my mind. Eventually I completely forgot that I had smoked Salvia, and in fact at one point sort of forgot who I was. My body seemed to disappear in a way, and I was left only in my mind. It was very much like a dream, and similar to a dream, I don't even remember the whole experience. As I started coming back to reality, I remembered that I was smoking a drug, and I remember feeling almost surprised since the experience was so similar to a dream, and so unlike anything I had tried before, that it was kind of surprising to me that I was actually just on a drug. Anyway, like I said my experience wasn't negative at all, but it wasn't really positive either since it sort of felt like I was just observing the whole thing from some omniscient perspective. I didn't get the sweating that most people get either. After that, I tried smoking what I had left of my gram after smoking pot, first smoking a quarter of a gram, and then after that experience ended, smoking the other quarter. Both times it was a relatively mild experience, and I didn't have a loss of ego like I seemed to have the first time. I just kind of enjoyed the feeling of drifting off into my thoughts, as it seemed to allow me to reach further into them than I am normally able to.

That's about it for my short-lived Salvia experiences.


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: triste]
    #7642350 - 11/15/07 11:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i had a female friend who pissed herself doing salvia on our deck once.
said littles elves came outa the wood and told her that it was ok.
i would say her experience was bad.
and we have a rule that you have to use the bathroom before you do it now. lol

if anything i think its more enjoyable to watch someone get fucked up on salvia. than it is to do it myself.
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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: Enothe]
    #7659054 - 11/20/07 01:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

MY, that doesn't necessarily sound like a bad experience. Of course, i've never pissed on accident from a drug or in front of people, so that may have screwed up the whole thing for her. maybe she we just acting as an excited puppy does when its getting loving from a human.


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #7659096 - 11/20/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think your vagina will affect the high from salvia


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #7660242 - 11/20/07 06:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I would definitely agree there, after reading through seems most have encountered my same friendlies... one male, one female.

I was very much eased into the situation. The feeling I experienced was that my surroundings were such so as not to scare me, and done so on purpose. Once they were ready to show me more, I was sinking back into reality.

I did end up doing it again, and made every effort to take the entire bowl in one hit -- twice. No real exciting experience, though, it did make me giggle.

The first, as I went under I was with 2 people, one of them was beside me, and the other was coming through a door. As I lowered the bowl, I attempted to give it to the person coming through the door, as if the bowl was theirs and I was returning it. The person beside me was telling me, it's not their bowl, it's your bowl. And all I could seem to manage was "nuh uh... really?... no way... really?!" I was stuck in a loop of severe disbelief and this continued. I kept my arm extended and left my body. I realized I was not the person, but the arm, and more specifically the hem on the black T-Shirt I was wearing.

The second was almost identical except upon realizing it... I was expressing the "No way!" loop in reference to being in the exact same place, in the exact same event.

A girlfriend of mine and a guy I know both wanted to try it (at different times) so I willingly sat for them. The guy won't touch it again. His world pretty much split down the center and in effect thought he had killed me. He experienced nothingness and existed only as imagination as if he were on a TV show complete with studio audience who coincidentally were all laughing at his inability to grasp that he, I, and the world were "dead". He came to and cried for an hour and a half.

My female friend also had a bad trip, but, she refused to talk about it.

I think the key is to know what you're walking into. I did my best to explain to them both that Sally isn't like anything they have ever tried, that they wouldn't realize who or where they were and its a place where ANYTHING can happen. Neither of them took me seriously and had a pretty thick "whatever, I can handle my 'drugs'" type of attitude. I don't think they were allowing themselves to prepare for what they got, it took them by surprise, and went downhill from there.

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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7660333 - 11/20/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I can't believe how many people on this forum are into salvia, salvia barely affected me and I had a strong extract with a torch lighter. On the marijuana forum I go to salvia isn't a big deal at all and I have never heard crazy stories about salvia like I do on here. Maybe once you're exposed to mushrooms you will trip easier on salvia?




I wouldn't say that exactly. It really seems to boil down as "different strokes for different folks". I've only had mushrooms a few times and that was back in my teens, I haven't touched them since age 16, it's been 10+ years. [Edit: I take that back, I did have some at a gathering a couple years ago in Vancouver, but still well beyond the time frame] Psilocin / Psilocybin leave the body in a matter of days, and there are no noted lasting effects caused by them.

Fresh Salvia is usually what new people go for to try it, they don't want a scary experience and they're unsure of what the effects are considering either "strength" and usually go with fresh because of the quantity.

My first sally experiences were with fresh/dried, and never really got anything more than a light euphoria. Wasn't anything to write home about but aided in meditation for me. It wasn't until I decided to try extracts that I received the strong changes in reality. I wouldn't personally go lower than 20x if I were looking for an altered state of existence.

Also, you *can* smoke it in several hits, but, it doesn't do anything to assist in your journey. Most people tend to smoke salvia like they would smoke tobacco from a pipe or weed from a bowl. Pull, hold a moment, exhale, pull, hold a moment, exhale...

Salvia (for me -- not sure how it affects others) isn't progressive in the sense that if you drink 5 beers over the course of 30 minutes, you're more drunk than if you had 1 beer in the same time frame. Its pretty much coming off of that first hit that you inhale, hold as long as possible, exhaling.

By taking the full amount packed in the bowl and holding, it was "easier" to experience and the effects were notably stronger than those I had while separating my hits.

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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: adrug]
    #7692520 - 11/28/07 08:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Here's the story about the first time I broke through on salvia (I am a female).

I held in my hit of smoked leaf material as long as I could without passing out.  I had loaded one small bowl into a bong, and took it all in one big hit. Set the bong down, laid down and waited a moment. I did feel somewhat scared when the effects first began, and tried to move in a fit of panic, but found myself unable to sit upright. I then decided that it was no good trying to fight this and that I would just lay there and let whatever was going to happen, happen.

Before I even finished exhaling, everything in my field of vision moved "down and to the left" and started to spiral. My skull split in half down the middle, then my head folded completely inside out on itself, followed by the rest of my body.

I then fell into the bottom of a huge black void. I could "see" myself somehow, and I was a giant mass of non-descript fleshy material. There were no obvious features, just a giant slowly-wriggling ball of flesh with no apparent purpose other than to exist. I felt as if there were presences around me, and even somehow perceived their sex (one was male, the other was female), even though in reality I was all alone in my apartment. They spoke to me, but I was unable to understand what they were saying. It sounded very distant and garbled.

After about 15 minutes, (but what seemed like no time at all to me) I was aware enough to check the clock to see how long I'd been out and instantly got up to do it again. I was in somewhat of a state of shock, and had to see if the effects would be the same. They were. This was the first time I had ever had full-blown hallucinations like that. Mushrooms show you pretty patterns and LSD also fucks with what is already there, but this was like a whole other world.

I spent another hour or so fully recovering from my experience enough to talk about it and feel reality begin to settle back in. I was hot and sweaty and confused, and I haven't looked at any anything the same since. :smirk:

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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7704252 - 12/01/07 08:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

its the presence of estrogen that i'm referring to, caribou. not only that, but metaphysically speaking, i believe that the entities encountered in the world of the diviner's mint are matriarchal and resentful toward the white male


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: Acinaxuz]
    #7704280 - 12/01/07 08:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

are you male or female zuxi?


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    #7704590 - 12/01/07 10:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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    #7705294 - 12/02/07 02:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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its the presence of estrogen that i'm referring to, caribou. not only that, but metaphysically speaking, i believe that the entities encountered in the world of the diviner's mint are matriarchal and resentful toward the white male




Why on earth would white males be targeted by this entity? that's absolutely absurd.


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: ZShroom]
    #7706087 - 12/02/07 10:51 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

is that brain coral, zshroom? nice pic


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7706091 - 12/02/07 10:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

oh, how sweet bigswang, are you two a couple or do you just admire her? that's cute either way


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    #7706180 - 12/02/07 11:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ok, i have to post this response with several posts because computer is fucking up and i keep having to start over.
part I:
ok fazdazzle, i am baffled as well about males being targeted by the entities, but several things support my hypothesis
1.) I have been collecting trip reports in my head from both both cyber people, here on the shroomery, and from people in person. I have also witnesses several others experiencing the breakthrough. Most of the reports have aspects that are consistent, and these consistencies are reported by people who do not know or have contact with one another. These consistencies include
a.) visions of two horizons, i.e. acinaxuz's post
b.) presence of entities, typically two at least initially, (i.e. boxcar guy's post)
c.) a "parade of souls"


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    #7706191 - 12/02/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

part II:
most of the males I speak to concerning this matter have negative experiences and most females have positive (of course, i have only the evidence from those who have responded to this post and those who I have spoken to, who knows, these stats could be skewed by those limitations. i'm not stating it as a fact, i'm only going by what info to which i have access


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    #7706217 - 12/02/07 11:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Part III:
I am still researching the history of this part, so if anyone has any links for me on this, please pass em on.
It is known that spanish missionaries (who were male) to Mexico attempted to ban the use of entheogens including salv. div., peyote, etc. This is why I think that the entities spoken of may possibly associate males with negativity. This, of course, isn't the case everytime, but males seem to be more scrutenized by the entities before they are accepted or rejected by them. Again, this is all just a theory of mine for which i am trying to gather info. i'm not stating this theory as a fact.


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    #7706221 - 12/02/07 11:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You're insane. :crazy2:


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    #7706280 - 12/02/07 11:49 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

thank you :psychsplit:


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    #7737812 - 12/09/07 06:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

1092 view, only 52 replies.  Eleven times as many replies as there have been views....:( sigh....


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #7737882 - 12/09/07 07:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

That's obviously because you're asking reports from girls, so guys (who make up, sadly enough, the large majority of the Shroomery) don't bother posting.


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    #7738563 - 12/09/07 10:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yah, there aren't many girls here, but i don't want only reports from girls, then i wouldn't be able to compare them to male reports. each report i hear is intriguing. boys report too!!! guess the title of the post could be misleading


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    #7740019 - 12/10/07 11:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7859466 - 01/10/08 01:22 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

increible how trip report of salvia are the same and yet unique , i think this thread deserves more attencion , i will make time to speak my experience, male , in a while just like to read all this entire thread and quote few that enriched this thread.
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    #7999655 - 02/09/08 10:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ok Cactu, you should definantly do that!!!!!! I'm glad you see how the experiences, though each unique, are somehow similar as well.


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #8005082 - 02/10/08 03:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

damn, your disappointed, that's way more replies than to some of my posts, you didn't find what you were looking for? i'm suprised that you got so many answers, and that what you're saying is somewhat true? you sure there isn't a difference in the female mind and the male mind? also......

most people i know say the same shit, that when they exhaled, suddenly it hit them while they were exhaling. or something, never tried it, never heard of one person taking it saying they liked it. also, don't remember hearing females saying anything extradonary about it, not saying they wouldn't say that, just that i never heard it.
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    #8005306 - 02/10/08 04:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not disappointed, only ambitious. The more responses i get, the more and more intriguing this becomes to me. and yes, imachavel, i do think that there is a difference in the majority of male and female minds because the brain operation involves biological cycles-thus chemicals. there are differen't ones for males (testosterone) and females (estrogen, progesterone), though each gender has a little of the other's same chemicals


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    #8008862 - 02/11/08 01:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i will describe my experience some of the best on salvia:please pardom my english
1-salvia divinorum my first encounter: i got two inhales and could fell the visual distortions in a second ,the wall disappear and i was transported to a field grass high in a mountains was impress me was the picture open and open every time i get into it i fell like is a was there that sensation is hard to explain , then mi friend speak to me and i was disconnected and in my room again , too bad.
2- we where in camping and i introduce a couple friend to salvia , they smoke first and when i got my turn in my second exhalation i begging to laugh so hard , and so primitive, the laugh in salvia is hard to explain it come from the inside of the soul , i consider that time the joy of my spirit soon mi friend join and we could not stop for a while,
3- i was tired of people interrupting my experience i have more other low level experience but from here thing get really deep, i smoke a full pipe of 5x and soon a image begging to develop soon a hall way appear and a person was looking at me a woman , and you know that felling you got in salvia where you forget you have smoke and soon you are in other dimension and is some confusion in the beginning and soon something or someone or your mind translate what you are seeing , in an instant i said i know what this is this is a image from my childhood , this is mi school this is my teacher , i fell great the image was a still image noting move and my teacher was laughing at me a friendly face, soon the image vanish , and i recall what people say about flash back , some how salvia get into your memory or connect you to a moment in time , past present or future.
4-i really was trying to get into the most deep have many previous experience after 3 and before this 4 , but number 4 was the most incredible i was decide to not be disturbed by noise ,people and prepared all to be awake at 3 in the morning when is almost no noise no light and no people, i prepared 2 pipes and after one i fell the break through but this time i need more,after i finish mi first pipe i fell the effect but i continue then what i can remember is a strong flash light explode in front of my vision a strange sound was right next to me , what is this i said to my self , in salvia we all have a dialogue , the sound was like a train passing by next to me, it was dark and the train pass and pass at great velocity, at mi side then i try to figure out was was happening and i move my head side by side , when i did this i could see my head split into many other heads like a trace, in a slow motion picture, and i could check in every head , i star to get panic since in salvia you forgot all and soon you are in someplace else, and i ask mi self , what is this what all this head , when i try to investigate in every head i see all the head where connected with a straight line that conduct to a dimensions and to some of mi life , then i realize i was looking into my all parallels life's, where millions , i try to look in all in despair i said to myself , yes but what is my life the one i remember , where is it, i look in all this head all get connected to a world and all where in different dimensions, then something got me and strike me , who iam? i said that and could not find the answer , then in asecond i think what iam ? i could not relate to a human being , this really hit me hard , was something i was not prepared, or i was just is something that scared the shit out of you , to loose your humanity i was reduced to the most basic element of life my essence the Essene of all , we where to sort of speak , just energy , but even that word don't fit good, in all the psychedelic i have try you still have your own defense no matter how high the dose , i know who iam, but in salvia you can get reduce to the most basic element , i panic real hard , but something was telling me to calm down , is true , this time i fell like it was a voice a not a dialogue with mi self, all is alright , in few second i realize i was in mi room , i was alive , a was a human being , but some how my spirit was in pieces , after that day i did not want to try salvia for long time, i said i got to far , it took me 5 years to recognize what i felt, to loose fear to understand , iam very gratefully with the salvia spirit to take to that journey , i know understand more, and iam prepared for more, i have had many session since then but no good break trough, i guess my extract are not so concentrated and i plant to not buy it any more.i will have my day soon . after this i fell great how we have parallel life's, we have millions life and many dimensions, we are connected, and we affect others,
what really is a problem for me and for every body is that when is smoke salvia put you there and you don't even know it so you forget all is difficult to remember your mission , your idea , every salvia experience i have had is unique different from each other , and of course many other story i could tell but this are more significant , the other relate and how you separate in two, the gravitational changes, the needle sensation, the voices, and the visual hallucination, the warn and physical sensations too,melting to walls ,have vision of scenery and places, but all that pass in more low doses high doses and complete break trough are the most rewarding experience for me, i don't like to get in the middle with salvia , i guess i have never got to forgot everything as some friends,
all my best vibrations all of you , salvia in the only tool to explore certain area of the brain and soul , that all other entheogen can not reach , truly unique experience, and the master of break trough is not easy to every body , none of my friend can have a real experience, all the basic.


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #8008956 - 02/11/08 02:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

When it comes to salvia, I wish there were more HIGH LEVEL tincture trip reports. Male or female. Everyone who does tincture only gets to level 1 or 2, usually.

Tincture is just better than smoked, sorry. Everyone thinks that tinctures are "weaker," not true, they can be JUST AS STRONG/overwhelming/powerful, and you can hit all 5 levels. Not to mention it lasts over an hour, rather than just 5 minutes.

Chewing leaf/sublingual is difficult and shit, just get tinctures. It's cheaper too, if you're not getting ripped off. Especially if you make it yourself, all you need is rubbing alcohol to make it. (evaporated of course, rubbing alc. is poisonous)


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: cactu]
    #8008979 - 02/11/08 02:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Im interested in this aswell and the way you (biospun) put it ties in with the TAO (the female and male brain being different yet retaining the same bits as the other) but i also believe on some psychedelic experiences we become the unspeakable, the eternal one, which is pure balance, neither male nor female, so maybe egotistically men and women trips could be different but we should receive the exact same insights of the eternal life, but maybe in different ways, so still is intruiging, as learning of introduction to the experience, one could then learn how to sucessfully introduce others, only along they're path of course, but on the right path so they can liberate themselves.

Men in general definately seem to be so egotistical that you cant help them, as the mere suggestion of a practice arouses defensiveness, however women have a more caring understanding nature so are more open to new ideas and experiences.

And its from our mothers generally which we learn, feed, grow, so women are the only ones who can get man on the right track and bring us ALL closer to liberation.

In short.
Sweet thread.

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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: Chronic7]
    #8010742 - 02/11/08 08:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you Chronic!  That's good insight!  :yinyang:


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #8134082 - 03/11/08 09:11 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

hmmm, the stats keep changing. guys and gals are close on % positive experiences


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #8134442 - 03/11/08 10:10 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I'm a female and I've tripped salvia a few times. The first few times I tried it I obviously didn't do it right because nothing happened.
The first time I broke through I was in a friends garage and I laughed for about 8 minutes solid, even though I'm still not sure what was so funny. It was kind of like on shrooms when everything is funny for no reason. Anyway, the walls had turned a vibrant pink and the floor a vibrant yellow. Everyone who I was in the garage with gradually started looking as if they were made of plastic. Everyones movements became very jerky and stiff, and voices became very slow and didn't make any sense to me. Then all of my body started to tingle and almost burn... like my clothes were on fire. All I wanted to do was take them off cause of how awfully uncomfortable it was to have them off (although I didn't lol.)

Second trip was much much different. I was in the dark lying down on a friend of mines bed, and It began with me sort of... flying through the universe. (that's the best way I can describe the feeling.) It was a kind of out of body thing where I was watching myself. I could hear voices all around me and I don't remember how I got there, but I ended up in a bright white room. My uncle, who had died a year or so prior, was in this room and I spent what felt like an hour talking to him. Then the room filled with more and more people who I assume were dead because these voices I had been hearing whispered "talk to the dead" and then I came back. I couldn't remember what I had talked to him about to save my life, but it made me happy seeing him again even though it wasn't exactly real. I would definitely consider this a positive experience because it was kind of freaky and fun, despite how morbid or strange it may sound. All in all, my salvia experiences have all been good; i really enjoy it.


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: chemical burn]
    #8191103 - 03/25/08 11:16 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

i should have read the whole thread before writing this, but i (atm) don't have time.

I am a male. I am an Aquarius (i'll get to that later).

salvia was the first mind altering anything i did... and at a very early age.
leaf through a bong had intense effects (i thought so anyway), but never more than visual/feeling distortion... no HUGE changes in perception. the first thing i noticed (and it sticks with me to this day every time i do salvia) was smiling beyond the boundaries of my face... a smile so intense with laughter of the same magnitude; borderline uncontrollable. the 'pressure' (heavy feelings) were the second thing i noticed, and it still happens.
very minor closed eye visuals... a teaser if you will, kind of saying to me "this is exactly what you've been looking for... dive deeper next time"

5x was gifted to me, 2or3 hits from a bong .
immense pressure, with a big smile but no laughter... almost too much for me.
i stumbled to my bed and covered myself in a large thick and heavy comforter. it was very cave like.
my thoughts were a bit confused, and i slowly noticed that what i see when i close my eyes (the colors and stuff you know? especially the tint from light shining through your eye lids) ... was taking form, almost swirling, definitely shifting.
as soon as i realized there was NO light entering the blanket, it was truly pitch black, the shifting reds and whatnot took form.
i was in a valley, a valley of agriculture, the pure ancient agriculture ( i could feel it).... oddly enough i was in a turnip field. i started out looking to the right a bit, but as i looked to the left, i saw a beautiful girl/woman working with the turnips, pulling a few up and smiling showing them to me, like an inside joke or something.
she said things to me, but not with words. it was along the lines of "welcome, are you curious? you can explore anything here"
this freeked me out a bit and it all faded away as i pulled the blanket back. i immediately put the blanket back over my head, maybe out of fear?
this time the colors were not shifting... they were still.
and out of FUCKING NO WHERE a blue a silver dragon(maybe?) came from above my vision and flew over head.
utter confusion, slight panic.
then.. IT came...
a shaman (im guessing) with a large bird like head and beak, in a black robe... i thought it was a mask, actually i ASSUMED it was a mask, and as soon as i made this assumption, it's arms raised and exposed it's human/bird-like blackish wings/hands.... it let out a shriek expressing an emotion i still don't recognize, and flew past me.

...and that's how i fell in love with salvia.

i have had under a dozen salvia trips, and will not post them all, but i must say they have all been increasingly more intense.
unintentionally, i went from 5x back to leaf, and then 15x a couple times (didn't make me trip tho, she said no), back to leaf,

and then more recently i bought an oz of the best salvia leaf ever, along with a vial of 10x.

i ate a small dose of harmala seeds, waited 1/2 hour, ate a low dose of amanita muscaria var. muscaria... waited 22 minutes, and then smoked the salvia 10x .

i saw this world, but a different layer of it. i was in my field, but i was a different person.
i had a first person perspective of walking in this field (that only looked a bit different) with two friends. i was a woman, though... an entirely different person with different morals and ideas... i spent a good 5-10 minutes (which seemed alot longer) exploring this place.


now although the two trip reports i've given don't reall lead up to my point, i somehow feel they are necessary.

salvia is unlike cannabis... she is best to do fast, and a whole lot at once.
those who are unaffected by salvia, are very closed minded (in one sense anyway), and feel hardly different.

the key to having the breakthrough experience with salvia (and i also agree with this for mushrooms :P )... is to Give In.
you must take the ancient role of woman and *accept* whatever your 'mate' has to offer. you must give in, take whatever is pushed at you.
please noone be offended by that, just try to make sense of it.

the sister who hated the feeling of salvia (from someone earlier in this thread)... she probably disliked it because she's at a stage in her life where she is not comfortable letting others manipulate her... perhaps she was just scared to accept the intensity of another being?


for months after the last salvia trip i described... smoking weed would send me into a psudo-salvia state, flashback i guess.

when i smoke salvia with others, i can dose them perfectly so we all get on the exact plain of thought... as if in the salvia world but together.

when i touch salvia (especially when placed in my palm), i feel her effects...
when i watch others do salvia... i start tripping.


us aquarians are kind of universal... potential to be a little bit of Everything/everyone.
my pisces friend was the first to enter similar head space under the influence of 10x... the other people were in darkness (including the fire they were standing around), and we looked at eachother... he exclaimed "your here to???!!!"
this pisces has mixed natives blood in him (supposedly including aztec according to family history).... i have seen immense potential in him for sacred practices...

my good virgo friend is the only other one to enter the said headspace that me and my pisces friend achieved.
he has made notes of the basics of salvia... interesting thoughts and perceptions about the salvia 'pressure' we all feel....
he seems to understand the absolute basis better, while my pisces friend sees the intermediary boundaries, while i the aquarian feel i understand the more intense powers and personality of Her.

perhaps a divine chemistry of entities? i feel thats what we experienced.

Final notes: i have found salvia has a deep connection with the moon... and surprisingly, with cold weather. try tripping on her when theres 2 feet of snow and its around 34 degrees (not below freezing though).... the salvia "pressure" takes on a whole new form.... and you almost feel immune to the cold..... it was in these conditions that i viewed thi
your zodiacal sign can play a major role in your experiences with salvia. your gender can too, but your gender can also be irrelevant, if you simply take on the 'ancient role of female' that i mentioned before.

oh man, that probably made me seem like a loon!
i hope that someone out there will read that and relate, and hopefully elaborate!


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #8200062 - 03/27/08 04:37 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

First time I did salvia was a t a park with some friends. I took the first hit, held it in as long as I could, and then exhaled. I starting saying that nothing was going when i started laughing real hard. Then I got up and started to jump around. Not much of a trip. The second trip I had (about half an hour after the first one) was the best. I thought I was in the Simpsons. I thought i saw the whole family in front of me, standing like they do at the beginning of every episode. It was like really didin't see them, but I did. Don't know how to explain it. After that I started walking down a hill where my two friends were at the bottom, and i starting clapping and calling them like dogs (when you clap). Then i walked to a tree and broke off the tiny branches because I thought we were all going to hangout around this tree and I didn't want anybody getting hurt. After that, I walked down the hill and started telling them about Slayer and how good they were and how they're not evil.

I really didn't trip or anything. Salvia is cool, just to expensive for me to make it something that I would do every weekend.

I'm a male.


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #12567715 - 05/15/10 03:03 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Hello :smile: I have just realized this is an old thread but I assure,this is very relevant.I signed up just to share these experiences.

A little background.I am not very experienced with mind altering drugs as I have only tried a relatively small dose of shroom chocolate once.That experience was fun at times but too overwhelming to my senses and I felt very nauseous most of the time.Wasn't around the right people for it.

I had become very interested in Salvia after reading quite a lot of information about it.So I acquired some,these are my experiences.

Smoking 5x with a regular lighter & bong,each time.

First time.Took a modest hit.Felt some weirdness,clumsiness & heaviness.Was in my living room,had some music on.Didn't really dig it.Felt disoriented and confused.

Second time:Laying down in bed,dim lights,modest hit again but there wasn;t much left in the bowl piece.Not disorienting as before but felt very heavy and the walls started to shift and strech.

Third time.Laying down in bed again.Dim lights as before.This time I went somewhere else.There was a crowd talking and laughing somewhere to the right of my field of vision.My body progressively got heavier and felt less and less like "mine" It felt like the axis of the world had shifted and I was standing upright,being stretched,looking down at the shadows of the walls,feeling like I was going to flop right over into it.Which I didn't luckily.I had the butterfly's in my tummy and the most joyous laughter erupted from both my bf and I.Pure hearty delight,like I was on one of those gravatron machines but the world was different,I was moving through the world made from the shadows.A very pleasant experience.

Fourth time:A year or so later.This tidbit is relevant to the trip because it is most of what I remember.I had gotten new furniture and therefore had to re arrange my bedroom.

This time the light was on.Which in retrospect,I think made things much more confusing and overstimulating(my bf disagrees).I also took a large hit.The bowl piece wasn't packed but it was a good amount in there.So I hit it,help it in and then ..nothing(in my memory).My bf was hitting the salvia himself and this is his recollection of what I did.

I had a serious look on my face and was raising my head up and down on the pillow,looking around confused.I sat up , looked around with the confused look on my face.Then I flopped the other way on the bed while evidently looking for something (I mentioned my cigarettes).So I am moving around and I remember none of this.The I returned to my back ,while putting my hand on my bfs leg and said that "We had to go".

I remember none of this.Not a shred.I don't even remember exhaling.There was none of it "settling" upon me like before.I do remember more as the trip started to fade.I remember being very disoriented.Partially because I was flashing back to the last time I had did it.The way the room was set up and the visuals I had then.I didn't know where I was in time or space anymore.I felt like I was being curved in a large banana shape.I was trying to lean to my partner as if the bed was in it's original place.I wasn't really aware of him though.I had a profound sense of unease.I felt like this banana and I saw the pink of my sweatshirt and the blue of my pajamas then yellow everywhere.Squiggled like someone had taken a paintbrush and wiggled the colors around.(which I am pondering trying the paint that vision which is stuck in my head)I didn't recall ever being human,or having a body or "smoking" anything.My brain and body had disconnected and I was part of the bed.Sunk in so far that the boundary had vanished.The more i regained my consciousness I felt like I was skipping.Pausing.I couldn't form a thought,I couldn't form my words.Lucid for a moment ,then it was gone.I remember saying ..I think I'll just..(slurring badly)then pausing.I think I'll just lay down.I was leaning on my elbow at the time.I finally got my head down and the effects gradually wore off.At some point I felt like I was going to get "caught" and that I had to act sober.THAT wasn't going to happen though.I don't know if any of that qualifies as a bad tripor not but I am shocked at myself.

I don't "lose control" on anyt5hing (in the past) and I have read a lot on Salvia and have a great reverence for it.I didn't expect to be floored and completely blown out of reality since I don't mess around with high extracts and didn't take more than one hit,just like before.I had retained a little lucidity then.This time,no dice.Didn't know who I was,what was going on,where I was.I wasn't even an "I" anymore.I moved around ( unless he himself was hallucinating that ) but the bed was kinda messed up on my side.Something possessed  me to get up and start moving around but I sure was not cognizant of my actions.If I do it again , I'm being sitted for sure.I thought we were familiar enough with it but I was very mistaken.I will also take a smaller hit because I went right to 5-ish territory,which I was not prepared for.How can anyone prepare for any salvia experience to begin with lol It can be both amazing and terrifying.I find it takes a lot out of me.The afterglow was quite wonderful besides some minor nausea.I did feel a "before" and "after".I saw myself taking a hit out the bong and it felt like a hundred years ago.

A couple side notes. My bf had a much more positive experience than I did.All though he felt as if my antics kind of detracted from his experience.Also,a couple hours before we had bickered over something,so maybe that negative energy (because I am much more effected by bickering than just about anyone I know) manifested itself from my subconscious in the anxiety that I felt during my experience.Just a thought..I also have hypothyroidism and very hormonal at the moment ,where as before I was on hormonal birth control and am not as of the moment.


Anyway,I have this stuff stuck in my head,have had the worst night of sleep in recent memory and I needed to put this out there and found this thread while looking for "salvia amnesia:Sorry to resurrect this but I felt it was best place to share this info.thank you for your time ^^


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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: biospun]
    #25910012 - 04/01/19 05:27 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Since this poll started 11 years ago I'm not sure if the original poster is still looking for females to post their experience with Saliva? But here is mine:

I took a couple long hits, I was already laid back against the wall, My oldest daughter and two male friends were there as well.  I got this overwhelming desire to stand up and be free to move about, But the three would not let me, Their faces turned into cartoon character's kinda clownish like a jack in the box who's head popped out with huge mouths and lips all where laughing while saying no and pushing me back down, I was not happy they wouldn't allow me to move. I tried several times to get up and each time these Jack in the box faces pushed me back. I felt disconnected from space and time and I couldn't tell whether I had actually returned or not. When I had and their faces were back to normal. the feeling of being held down and not wanting to be made me keep asking myself, am I back yet? and asking them am I back yet? 

I voted none of the above because it wasn't real negative or scary and not really positive, but rather frustrating.

Perhaps if I was able to move or even had the freedom if or when I felt I needed too, whether I actually did or not, I might have had a completely different trip. Instead I walked away feeling no desire to experiment with it again.

I haven't thought about that experience for several years and you know I still feel the same way about it. 

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Re: Need Trip Reports from FEMALES [Re: injoyslife] * 1
    #25910044 - 04/01/19 05:45 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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injoyslife said:
Since this poll started 11 years ago I'm not sure if the original poster is still looking for females to post their experience with Saliva?
injoyslife:heart:




You ever consider selling your saliva?


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