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Icelander
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Re: The Virus [Re: demiu5]
#7497539 - 10/08/07 01:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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demius said: I think it's because they never think too.
with sports, television, central heat/air, cars and planes to take them anywhere, church, beer, and the titty bar down the road, who needs to think about anything else?
we have millions of distractions, and because of how our species and its societies has evolved, there are thousands of jobs a person can do which each has its own distractions, so on and so forth
Lets try and look deeper. Why the need for all the distractions?
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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So that the mind does not worry about the G. Reaper..
-------------------- Pray, v.: To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy - Ambrose Bierce Medical science has confirmed what the male world has known intuitively for millenia: that scratching your ass is a great aid to complex thinking. Its God's responsibility to forgive the terrorist organizations such as Jaish, Lashkar etc. Its our responsibility to arrange the meeting between them and god." - Indian Armed Forces "Hey Monkey!! Get Funky" - Tarzan and Jane
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Icelander
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That's what I believe. Our personality structure is such that it seems to need to believe in it's continuation otherwise it experiences anxiety , which of course it seeks to relieve. Much of what is done in life is in service to relief of this anxiety, including I believe religion and the craving for power over others and the environment. I often wonder what humanity would be like and what it's goals for living would be if death did not create this state of insecurity?
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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demiu5
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a large part of it has to do with the our 'advancement' over other species, because lots of animals are aware of death. whether or not this translates to them understanding that all life is not constant...who knows but few other animals (if any) react towards awareness of death as we do
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Icelander
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Re: The Virus [Re: demiu5]
#7498173 - 10/08/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's hard to say if other animals are aware of death. What death actually constitutes.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Gomp
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What if that virus you deem one, was you?
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demiu5
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Icelander said: It's hard to say if other animals are aware of death. What death actually constitutes.
I've seen videos of primates (Chimps or Bonobos) that would nurse a sick child, and lay around with it, checking on it ever so often, until it died. Then, when it died, the mother carried it down to the others, marked as relatives through behavioral patterns, who guarded it, and only allowed relatives, including the young, to see it
wolves and other dogs will do about the same, staying by a companion's side and then remaining with it for some time after it has died
other animals are most definitely aware of death
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Re: The Virus [Re: demiu5]
#7498751 - 10/08/07 06:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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They are aware of death, but is it the same thing as being aware of their own death?
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demiu5
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Re: The Virus [Re: demiu5]
#7498756 - 10/08/07 06:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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this has been a good read between ice and eternalcowabunga
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demiu5
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MushroomTrip said: They are aware of death, but is it the same thing as being aware of their own death?
who's to say? that's not necessarily visible in behaviors in us, so how could we see that in others? hell, I don't think at least one fourth of the people on this planet are aware that they will die
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I know of death, so it has no power to make me anxious  Exploring death to it's limits will make it loose it's negative power over everyone.
Same with everything that makes us anxious.
But it's true, that existential-anxiety has psychotically engraved into humankind over the centuries... it's ever good to get rid of, to enjoy life to it's fullest and having no worries about 'failures' but accept them as a chance to learn...
I think, social pressure is that, what causes the most angst in humans and hinders them acting freely to their selves in a healthy way.
Society is the cell of the bacterium. The human is the healthy mitochondrion Or society is the body, while each human is a cell.
Or ant and hive. Are you lucky enough to be born in a peacful ant tribe or into a war tribe ? Does that force one into being that, too ?
I vote to free the mitochondria, cell, ant, to give it power back on the cell, body, hive !
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