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gantry
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ID request - UK
#7494060 - 10/07/07 11:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4922/dsc00461gq7.jpg
I just found a load of these in a shaded area in my garden undearneath a fairly large plant.
The head is a light borwn/tan sort of colour with a darker spot on the top where some of them have a sort of tip.
The stems are all white/really light brown, and the underside of the head is a really dark brown, greyish sort of colour.
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: gantry]
#7494069 - 10/07/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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inkys.
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gantry
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: coon]
#7494078 - 10/07/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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meaning?
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: gantry]
#7494093 - 10/07/07 11:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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non active Coprinus,or whatever they call them now.
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: gantry]
#7494113 - 10/07/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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inkys.
The glistening variety right?
Coprinus micaceus.
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: akb112211]
#7494153 - 10/07/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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no,I dont think they are micaceus.here is a pic of micaceus.
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: gantry]
#7494173 - 10/07/07 12:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Coprinus atramentarius
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coon
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: veggie]
#7494179 - 10/07/07 12:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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yep,that's the one.
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oh_ollie
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: coon]
#7494477 - 10/07/07 01:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i have a patch of those covering at least a 15ft by 15ft square. crazy stuff!
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: oh_ollie]
#7496151 - 10/08/07 01:59 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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hmmm...
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: akb112211]
#7496516 - 10/08/07 07:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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veggie said: Coprinus atramentarius
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Coon said: yep,that's the one. :coon:
It looks more like Coprinus truncorum
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I know, I know. I shouldn't be continuing a post with an inadequate description by the poster, but I mentioned C. micaceus because there seem to be bits of mica-like granules on the cap and gills. Also, ochre color matches c. micaceus as opposed to the grey-brown silky pileus of c. atramentarius. Also, recently, I've been seeing C. micaceus everywhere this season. But no sightings of common inkcaps thus far. (also, pic provided of c. micaceus looks like an older species just prior to delequescing) I don't think C. truncorum grow in the UK.
(all due respect to all of course, cause I could still be wrong)
Edited by akb112211 (10/08/07 09:02 AM)
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: akb112211]
#7496815 - 10/08/07 09:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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it is a inky,none the less.
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: coon]
#7497910 - 10/08/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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those are Copinellus micaceus. i can see the granules on the caps. this species can be tricky as this feature is the prominent diagnostic feature and the granules are easily washed away with rain. i bet it is possible for similar species to pick up sand grit on thier caps as they emerge, but you could then distinguish by trying to crush it gently. the mica like granules are much more brittle than sand. for example, if you scraped some off on a mirror and used a metal implement to break them, you would notice a sharp contrast.
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: akb112211]
#7500625 - 10/09/07 06:41 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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akb112211 said: I know, I know. I shouldn't be continuing a post with an inadequate description by the poster, but I mentioned C. micaceus because there seem to be bits of mica-like granules on the cap and gills. Also, ochre color matches c. micaceus as opposed to the grey-brown silky pileus of c. atramentarius. Also, recently, I've been seeing C. micaceus everywhere this season. But no sightings of common inkcaps thus far. (also, pic provided of c. micaceus looks like an older species just prior to delequescing) I don't think C. truncorum grow in the UK.
(all due respect to all of course, cause I could still be wrong)
Coprinus truncorum are actually common all across Europe, including the UK, although micaceus is probably more likely. Down here we ONLY get truncorum so i just associate that look with truncorum not micaceus.
It's in the US that they don't exist.
Survey Survey
Granted you'd be hard pressed to tell micaceus and truncorum apart anyway if they both grow in your area.
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Cool, thanks a lot for clearing me up. I thought they seemed like the same species. Ah, I see..."The macrofeature description above matches several species, all of which are commonly called Coprinus micaceus in North America. At least five similar mushrooms belong in section micacei of section veliformes within Coprinus." -mushroomexpert.com (I must not have surpassed the level of 'common')
I came across a log full of them yesterday. I think I may go by and gather some. I only had a couple sips of homemade ginger beer last night, and no prospects of drinking tomorrow so I think I'll give em a try. This will be my first taste of inkcaps. Any suggestions? And tomorrow...off to the fields for some libs and ergot. (i'll explain the my desire for ergot some other day)
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: akb112211]
#7500772 - 10/09/07 08:12 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Make a soup?
I see massive patches here too growing from buried wood, never tried them though.
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thanks, good article. I'm hungry...goin to the woods right now. I like the idea of taking a right into nature instead of a left to a grocery store.:)
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: akb112211]
#7500873 - 10/09/07 09:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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check out the sig
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: akb112211]
#7502273 - 10/09/07 05:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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good man. you forrage plants aswell?
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Re: ID request - UK [Re: canid]
#7504163 - 10/10/07 03:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I collect what I can depending on what season it is. I'm still rather new at the identifying of flora, but it makes it more of an adventure. As long as its legal to remove vegetation from the area, I can't imagine not wanting to consume these plants and fungi.
Good news, yesterday, when I went out, I gathered the glistening inkcaps, and found some common inkcaps. Continued on and surveyed my regular spot of gyms, and discovered some healthy looking pins and another stump with tons of them. What a pleasant surprise! I'm sure you all know the feeling. So, the inkcaps were sauteed with a bit of salt and a little too much oil. The glisteners had a very subtle flavor, but the common inkys had a great texture and flavor. I likened it to a mild asparagus flavor. No nutty-ness like a lot of wild edibles i've found. I was a bit nervous though...We cooked some stir fry with a little bit of white wine. We made sure the alcohol was all cooked off of course. I really believe that its the small discoveries of the little things that are all around us that make life worth living. Not the contrived manufactured mess that is presented to us on an otherwise daily basis. Though it is difficult for one to truly escape modern society, I do try to take my self out of the cycle of popular consumer culture as much as possible. Well, I better stop there. I could go on for ever on this topic.
By the way, Thanks oh_ollie!
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