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DNKYD
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Morons and money
#7492996 - 10/06/07 11:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why is it that parents who let their kids live on their dime always think throwing more money at them will solve any problem?
I can understand parents paying for college tuition because it's so damn expensive these days. Unfortunately I haven't had that luxury. I've also held a steady job since I was 16 to pay my way like normal people. I don't feel special because of this, since this is how life works. But when you're twenty-something and you can't manage your own money, let alone the money your parents throw at you, there's something wrong.
I'm sick and tired of early-twenties college shitheads that bitch and moan about life being oh-so-difficult when they don't even have a job, never need to worry about being able to afford to eat, and feed off of mommy and daddy's wallet. I can't fathom the kind of emotional shitstorm that will ensue when their pansy asses get kicked out of the "glamorous" college life and into the real fucking world.
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Re: Morons and money [Re: DNKYD]
#7493004 - 10/06/07 11:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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damn man its like you addressed this to me my parents are paying my way through college and i always feel guilty when my friends talk about their difficulties and how i get average marks when people who work and study and live on their own do even better but what can you do man you play with the cards your dealt at this point in my life i cant support myself, but ive made it a priority to become autonomous asap
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Re: Morons and money [Re: DNKYD]
#7493006 - 10/06/07 11:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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rawr
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Re: Morons and money [Re: DNKYD]
#7493009 - 10/06/07 11:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, yeah. Basically.
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DNKYD
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It seems like because their financial situation is for the most part secure, people in this situation have to amplify any little problem that creeps into their life.
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Re: Morons and money [Re: DNKYD]
#7493029 - 10/06/07 11:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am 24 and am just now learning how to budget out my money. Last year I cut off all ties from family and have started to truly live on my own earnings. I'm getting a lot of satisfaction out of dividing out my weekly paycheck into bills, spending money, and savings. There's just something empowering about playing with your survival tickets. If I want to go to college I'll also have to do it on my own.
I mean, living on your own money and carving your own way through life is so satisfying, I feel bad for people who never get to experience that lustrous challenge.
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Re: Morons and money [Re: MOTH]
#7493043 - 10/06/07 11:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It certainly is a rewarding responsibility of life that should be taught early and often. I feel sorry for most of these poor saps because their overbearing parents rob them of a chance to learn useful skills like budgeting their money. That degree with a 5-figure salary won't mean shit if they can't spend the dough right.
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Re: Morons and money [Re: DNKYD]
#7493064 - 10/06/07 11:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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So true. What I've actually come to realize is that you don't need that much money to survive at all. It's when inexperienced people begin participating too freely in our maniacal "buy it while it lasts!" world that the bills get out of control and they experience a sense of "hardship," when they actually probably didn't need most of the stuff that placed them into a state of financial woe to begin with.
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Re: Morons and money [Re: DNKYD]
#7494082 - 10/07/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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dude, I know what you mean.
my gf is just as you describe.
I'm a few years older than her, and out of college. I haven't received a dime from my parents in years, and when I did, it was very minimal. They paid my tuition and gave me a very minimal amount of money every month (just a few hundred bucks) and that was it.
I mean, my parents helped me out, and I'm really grateful for that. But this chick I'm dating, she has a COMPLETELY free ride. All her bills are paid; we're talking car payment, insurance, phone, electricity, rent, everything! Plus she has a credit card that her parents pay off!
and yet she still manages to complain about how 'hard' her life is.
this chick, literally all she has to do is go to school and get good grades. That is her only obligation in life. Me, I had to work full time while I was in school, didn't have proper health insurance or a decent car, I mean, I can go on and on about what a struggle school was for me.
and yet she still complains to me, and asks me to drive her to school because she doesn't want to walk and there's no parking... its really ridiculous. She expects me to sympathize with her after everything I had to go through...
wow, I went on kind of a rant there.... I guess you see how strongly I feel about this...
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Re: Morons and money [Re: wps]
#7494107 - 10/07/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow. I don't know how you do it, man. I would never be able to date a girl like that. You clearly have a higher tolerance of ignorant bitches than I.
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Re: Morons and money [Re: DNKYD]
#7494110 - 10/07/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I prefer living on my own, being poor, struggling to pay for college, and having no health insurance (living the American dream) than being wealthy. I can only imagine if I had money I'd be a waste like Paris Hilton.
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MOTH said: If I want to go to college I'll also have to do it on my own.
Since you're old, you'll get a lot of money for financial aid.
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Re: Morons and money [Re: wps]
#7494114 - 10/07/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'll bet she's way hot! and your relationship won't last past college. sorry
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Re: Morons and money [Re: bukkake]
#7494118 - 10/07/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Financial aid is a crock. They expect that just because I'm younger than 25 and my parents make X dollars they should be contributing enough to pay my way. Forget the fact that it was a real struggle at times to raise 6 kids and that they couldn't ever afford to put any of them through college.
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Re: Morons and money [Re: Vanguard]
#7494137 - 10/07/07 11:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You know, I appreciate the value of honest work. It builds integrity. But I sure would appreciate it if my grandpa would help me out of the dung hole I'm in by helping with a few thousands dollars for college or trade school or something.
My experience is just the opposite. I don't complain because my parents fork out money all the time. I'm frustrated rather because I'm in a tough spot that's hard to get out of without help $$, and the person that could really help me, my grandfather who's sitting upon tens of thousands of dollars won't even help out with money to go to school.
He only keep yelling at me to get a job get a job. He just doesn't understand that not everyone is the same, and sometimes people get stuck.
So, I think it's a balance. Give some, and don't give some.But I understand where you're coming from with rich kids like that, although I don't really understand that experience as well as others on here. I live in a rich city (more millionaires per capita here than anywhere else in the U.s.) but I don't have the experience of knowing a lot of rich kids. But the rich people I have known, were generally arrogant, shallow, and self absorbed. But there are a lot of rich people out there who really work hard too ( but have a rotten attitude).
It's really interesting though how so many rich kids are drawn to drugs like mushrooms.
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Re: Morons and money [Re: DNKYD]
#7494142 - 10/07/07 11:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah, same here
they look at your parents income when determining your eligibility for aid.
such bullshit. just because my parents are well-off doesn't mean they give me shit. they're tough love republicans!
I think now that I'm over 25 I'm eligible for financial aid. Now that I've already graduated. I have half a mind to go back and get a 2nd bachelor's degree on uncle sam's dollar, just because I can. They won't pay for grad school, but for some reason they'll pay for a second tour of undergrad.
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Re: Morons and money [Re: wps]
#7494144 - 10/07/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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wps said: yeah, same here
they look at your parents income when determining your eligibility for aid.
such bullshit. just because my parents are well-off doesn't mean they give me shit. they're tough love republicans!
I think now that I'm over 25 I'm eligible for financial aid. Now that I've already graduated. I have half a mind to go back and get a 2nd bachelor's degree on uncle sam's dollar, just because I can. They won't pay for grad school, but for some reason they'll pay for a second tour of undergrad.
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Re: Morons and money [Re: sui]
#7494160 - 10/07/07 12:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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seriously, though. try getting a pell grant to go to grad school. It ain't happenin'.
but since I haven't asked the govt for a dime my entire life, I can get them to pay for a bachelors degree, now that I'm over 25 and an independent. Too bad I already have one. Maybe this time I'll get it innnnnn.... basket weaving?
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Re: Morons and money [Re: wps]
#7494177 - 10/07/07 12:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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My parents are helping me get through college by paying my tuition and phone bills. From time to time I get a new item to wear. That's about all I get from them. They don't earn much anyway so I'm very grateful for it. I'm unemployed at the moment, but got a job interview tomorrow. I'm looking forward to see how it works out.
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Re: Morons and money [Re: sui]
#7494182 - 10/07/07 12:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Since this is the shroomery, I just have to say -- I don't understand peoples use of money for drugs. The majority of my friends don't have a dime because they blow it all on drugs. Then they wonder how I can afford to not work for months at a time.
Well, it's because I save. I don't blow any extra money I have on drugs. The only things my money gets used for (with occasional exceptions) is rent, food, gas, insurance and utilities. Anything outside of that is a rare luxory. With this setup, I haven't been out of money, ever.
I also am paying about 20% of my tuition at school, but the rest is taken care of.
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Re: Morons and money [Re: Individual]
#7494205 - 10/07/07 12:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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lulz @ the guy that had his parents by his tuition AND give him money on top of that and still thinks he had it tough
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