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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: Icelander]
#7491632 - 10/06/07 02:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hired Frog as your counsel, eh?
I only use Soylent Green brand pet chow.
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: Icelander]
#7491644 - 10/06/07 02:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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blah.
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: lysergicide]
#7491648 - 10/06/07 02:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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trust your self and walk straight into the experience, you deserve it.
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: lysergicide]
#7491652 - 10/06/07 02:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'm calling her tonight. my self-esteem has just skyrocketed, she has given me a lot of hope and courage back, from all that i lost with my best friend.
That is all well and good, but if the foundation of your self esteem is the approval of another; where will you be when that approval is withdrawn at some future date?
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7491655 - 10/06/07 02:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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trust your self and walk straight into the experience
But wear a full-body condom...
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#7491659 - 10/06/07 02:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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actually i'm sorry. i ended up deleting half the post i think.
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: lysergicide]
#7491665 - 10/06/07 02:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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but yeah, for people that didn't see it: it's been 2 years, and i've been in love with my best friend. she has been the world to me, and she has been the main source of all my jealousy and lack of self-esteem. she has lifted me up beyond words, and she has made me feel like hell. and i was stuck in an addictive love that i could not escape.
i had nobody to get my mind off of her. i needed somebody new to think about. i needed another girl. but nobody liked me. i couldnt find a date. with the combination of my jealousy over my best friend and that, i felt really empty inside.
but i just met this girl a few weeks ago and we've been talking. she said she really likes me and that i'm amazing and she hasn't meet a boy like me before. and i'm really happy because it means that somebody actually sees me and they really like it. and it has given me the hope and the self esteem back that i lost.
i feel like i have a bright new future that is in my hands.
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: lysergicide]
#7491675 - 10/06/07 02:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Honestly it doesn't look good to me. You need others to feel good and that will not work.
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: Icelander]
#7491678 - 10/06/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Love is that warm and fuzzy feeling I get in my heart when I'm near dogs, bunnies, or a loved one.
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: lysergicide]
#7491686 - 10/06/07 02:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Be sure to avoid answering my question.
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: Icelander]
#7491703 - 10/06/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Honestly it doesn't look good to me. You need others to feel good and that will not work.
i know. with my best friend, i was in love, but i was addicted. it was a shame. i won't deny, because it's true. i couldn't be happy if she was mad at me or if we were upset. i couldn't be happy if she was with a boyfriend. i could only be happy if we were together, laughing and having fun, loving each other...
but this new girl is my tool to get these feelings away from my best friend. my best friend is beautiful and neither of us need these horrible feelings of mine getting in between us. this is just my way of letting go, by replacing, by filling my thoughts with something new and inviting...
do i need other people to be happy? of course not. but does it help? you bet it does.
i've explored myself so much. i feel like i already know as much as i can about myself (that may be a weak statement, but it feels that way). i'm at the point in my life where i want need somebody else to open the door and to open me up to new experiences and emotions that i'm unfamiliar with standing at this perspective, and maybe i can see and feel me through their eyes, and i want to see and feel them. i want to feel that feeling of oneness. i want to experience a new side of my life, with somebody else by my side, just to say that i lived and i loved.
i'm getting worked up off of something small, i know. but what can i say... humans are big dreamers and i'm just another one of them.
thank you icelander for responding and giving in your opinion, i appreciate your words.
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: lysergicide]
#7491710 - 10/06/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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The more you say the worse it looks. You will just have to explore all this and hopefully learn. Go for it I say. That's the only way to find out what works. Good luck.
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#7491720 - 10/06/07 03:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Could you love me if I looked like this
 and smelled of eggs?
If I didn't, then it wouldn't truly be love.
You have a serious misunderstanding of love, and you appear to not know the difference between true love and physical attraction.
Love is a spiritual truth that even atheists and humanists attest to. without a higher Spiritual truth, you cannot dictate morality, you have no ground to stand on. Saying, "it works" is irrelevent. So does survival of the fittest. we all believe in love, though when confronted, some would say mere biology, but in practice it is a Spiritual truth that we are all obligated to obey.
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#7491734 - 10/06/07 03:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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i'm calling her tonight. my self-esteem has just skyrocketed, she has given me a lot of hope and courage back, from all that i lost with my best friend.
That is all well and good, but if the foundation of your self esteem is the approval of another; where will you be when that approval is withdrawn at some future date?
i'm really sorry i didn't answer your question! i didn't mean to ignore/avoid it like that.
this is an interesting question for me, but a good one indeed; thank you for asking.
it really has me thinking and i don't know how to answer. i don't think it's the fact that my self esteem is ultimately in the hands of another. of course other people play a role in my happiness, but don't people always play a role in your happiness? and as far as my self-esteem goes, i always had positive self esteem. like i said, i knew there was something in me, but nobody else noticed. and that made me sad.
but as humans, do we not find ourselves fantasizing about an ideal world? if this new girl were to change her mind, then of course, i would feel a little broken. i got my hopes up.
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: lysergicide]
#7491740 - 10/06/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'm young and i'm naiive and i'm not afraid to admit that. i loved before and it didn't work out and it hurt me. but now i have my hopes up again. is that bad? no, it's not bad. but i'm anxious for something like this, i want to explore love again, but on a positive side...
i'm going to give this a try and see how it works out. i realize that i may not end up happy in the end. but i want to live, and i want to try. at least i'll do that.
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: lysergicide]
#7491745 - 10/06/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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lysergicide said: but this new girl is my tool
Has she been informed of this?
If you want something outside yourself to bring you temporary joy, get a case of poppy pods. Much cheaper than the girlfriend and way more reliable. Plus the withdrawls only last a week or so and there's plenty of ways to ease through it. The same cannot be said for a relationship that by it's own starting circumstances is doomed to fail. Err..I mean, good luck!
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: Grok]
#7491759 - 10/06/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i love you people. even if you don't agree with the things i say, i really appreciate that you're being honest, and allowing me to see this from a perspective that isn't head over heals, and this is beneficial because it allows me to re-evaluate my situation. thanks for the laugh grok 
maybe i got this out wrong. this isn't supposed to sound bad. maybe i'm just so delighted, that i let myself slip the wrong words out, or i worded it wrong. but this really looks bright for me, and at least know that. i really don't mean for this to have any negative aspects in it because it really doesn't. i'm just young and learning to live and to love and to see things while influenced by different emotions.
love isn't really 'setting yourself free.' unconditional love is, but conditional love is more along the lines of 'taming your self.' i think thats true.
but i want to see this and feel it for myself. for this temporairy happiness, i hope it lasts.
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Re: Continuation of the sex theme.... Love & Procreation [Re: lysergicide]
#7492311 - 10/06/07 06:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Remember, in some aspects love is unconditional. But in other aspects it is conditional. If you can acknowledge these things, it will help you greatly in life.
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