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Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help!
    #7490064 - 10/05/07 10:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I located these in a pretty big opening that was mostly bark. They grew mostly on the edges where the bark met the cement. They are growing in clusters of 5-8 and are sparatic throught the bark patch. There is a ring around the upper part of the steam that seems to fall of or detach shortly after mushroom has been picked. Colors rainged from cinnomon brown, to a whiter more cream apperance. There appears to be no bluing so I am a little skeptical. Meets most criteria of the Psilocybe cyanescens but I would just like another opinion. 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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: armyabe]
    #7490071 - 10/05/07 10:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: Asante]
    #7490090 - 10/05/07 11:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I can see blueing?


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: 2859558484]
    #7490102 - 10/05/07 11:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

so it is good i have my first find is this true!!!!?


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: armyabe]
    #7490130 - 10/05/07 11:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Psilocybe stuntzii.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: CureCat]
    #7490154 - 10/05/07 11:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Really? Absolutly not Stuntzii. I would assume there would be more bluing with the cyan. due to its high psilocin content. I am not familiar with the species I have found.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: 2859558484]
    #7490164 - 10/05/07 11:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

So do you know is it P. Cyan. or do you know?


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: armyabe]
    #7490172 - 10/05/07 11:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Absolutly is Ps. Stuntzii!!!


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: armyabe]
    #7490177 - 10/05/07 11:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

congrats on the Ps Stuntzii find!!!


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: armyabe]
    #7490195 - 10/06/07 12:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Absolutly not Stuntzii.



Why do you say that??

Really now, why did you ask for an ID if you are willing to dismiss our answers so hastily?

They are not Ps. cyanescens. They are Ps. stuntzii.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: CureCat]
    #7490216 - 10/06/07 12:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: fliped]
    #7490310 - 10/06/07 01:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

what part of washington did you find them?


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: CureCat]
    #7490355 - 10/06/07 02:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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They are Ps. stuntzii.




Yep, without a doubt.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: fliped]
    #7490714 - 10/06/07 08:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

it looks more like cyan in all the book i have and looks nothing like stunzii in any pic online. but besides that how well do they dry do they hold potency? thanks


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: armyabe]
    #7490802 - 10/06/07 09:04 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Those look nothing like cyanescens. They look exactly like ps. stuntzii!


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: landsnorkler]
    #7490852 - 10/06/07 09:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

haha crazy rookies. You might notice on the stem the veil remains make a nice "blue ring" therefore you dealing with a blue ringer and they arent fimentaria or sierra (subfimentaria). People of the shroomery are Psilocybian masters.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: armyabe]
    #7490952 - 10/06/07 10:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I believe the stems are too dark for them to be Cyanescens. Cyan stems are reasonably white, at least in my patch.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: armyabe]
    #7491479 - 10/06/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well I do not know what book you are looking in but those are text book examples of Ps. Stuntzii... A.K.A. Blue ringers


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: armyabe]
    #7491495 - 10/06/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Really? Absolutly not Stuntzii. I would assume there would be more bluing with the cyan. due to its high psilocin content. I am not familiar with the species I have found.





LOL EL-Oh-Fucking-EL :lol:



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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: sui]
    #7491545 - 10/06/07 02:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

lol kids a goof


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: armyabe]
    #7491841 - 10/06/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

you need to begin thinking about mushroom identification as a diagnosis, based on direct, quantifieble physiologic traits. identification of mushroom based on poor observations of photographs without a direct knowledge of what traits are of actual use is dangerous and i've always believed it could potentially get people killed before they have a chance to learn much about mushrooms.

the most valuable tool imo for identification of mushrooms i a well written and relatively complete dichotomous key based upon species occurring in the region in which you hunt.

also; i can see plenty of blueing in your collection, though it is not as prevalent as it could be, for example if the weather had been drier when you collected them and the stipes where not so damp prior to your handling. in such conditions, the stipe bases are still firm, rather pristine and lighter in color, allowing for a truer impression of the blue tones which result from bruising.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: canid]
    #7492884 - 10/06/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

textbook stuntzii


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens? not bluing? looks identical help help! [Re: Mitchnast]
    #7492906 - 10/06/07 10:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Those are blue ringers.  Congrats! :thumbup:


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