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Re: Why the need for larger doses? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7491358 - 10/06/07 01:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Tolerance always varies... I'm extremely sensitive to mushrooms (I've tripped out pretty hard on 1.2 grams before, believe it or not) but it takes pretty big doses of LSD for me to see more than bigger halos.


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Re: Why the need for larger doses? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7492478 - 10/06/07 07:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The first 5 or 6 years I tripped, I only exclusively took 3 grams or more. For the most part I had enjoyable, very intense experiences. But there were a handful of occasions in which I had very dreadful experiences.

It always seems with psychedelics, that your next trip is, for the most part, influenced tremendously by your previous trip. With that being said, even if I enjoyed 10 good trips in a row, one bad trip would make me step back from shrooms or LSD for a good period of time till I gathered the courage to munch down 3 or more grams again.

Then one day, 3 or 4 years ago, my friend asked me if I wanted to trip. Coming off a bad experience a few months earlier, I was very weary of committing to a trip. I sat on the fence most of the day thinking about it and I decided that I just wasn't up for it. I called my friend and told him that I wouldn't be joining him on his trip. He was very disappointed to say the least. Then he suggested that I take a low dose. I sat there silent, trying to comprehend his suggestion. "Low dose," up to that point in my life, wasn't phrase that had a rightful place in my vocabulary. "Try, taking 1 gram, sit back and relax." Why not, I thought, at the very least I will get stoned for 3 or 4 hours and enjoy a few laughs.

So I took just one gram. Perhaps the first time I ever dipped below the 3 gram threshold in my tipping lifetime. I didn't expect much as I stomached down 3 rather skimpy dried shrooms. I settled down on my couch and waited. Fifteen minutes past. . .nothing. Half hour. . .felt a little queezy. Forty minutes. . .started to tingle. One hour. . .abstract thought had set in, walls were breathing and color were bright and vivid. I was warm and comfy. I was enjoying television, something I usually don't like when I trip. Before I realized it, I was totally submerged in a full blown trip. It was mild, didn't have that sharp bite that a 3 gram trip has, but it was quite nice. I was calm, didn't have that flutter in the pit of my stomach that at any moment things could turn for the worst. I had control of my thoughts... they would linger and loop but I could quickly corral them back in line if needed. I enjoyed deep meaningful conversations with my friends. Something that for the most part is absent when I high does trip. I mean we would talk about things and ideas on high doses, but most of the time you scramble to find out what the hell your friend is talking about rather than diving into the meaning of their concepts.

Without going into too much detail, the trip was great. It was everything that a trip should be. From that point on I seen no point in venturing to the 3 gram plateau. There on out, the majority of my trips have been in the .75 to 1.5 gram range, with a few 2 gramers in there. I can say with certainty that one of those 2 grams trips was THE most intense experience I ever had. . .total loss of reality.

The moral of this post, you don't have to dive into the ocean to get wet, you can just as easily get wet by wading the shallow shore waters. Don't fool yourself either... you can just as easily drown in 3 feet of water than 100 feet.

For me, low dose for life.


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Re: Why the need for larger doses? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7493269 - 10/07/07 12:44 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Different people just have different physiologies. I have one friend who not only needs much lower doses, but they always kick in in ten minutes or less with him. Never fails.


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Re: Why the need for larger doses? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7493374 - 10/07/07 01:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

personally my tolerance has gone down quite a bit, I was always sensitive to psychs but now a days I am extremly sensitive to them. I can trip decently off 1/4 a gram of shrooms and really fuckin' good at a gram. Lately my tolerence has been getting lower and lower and its made me space out my trips more aswell as taking less, in which now I have been subconciously pushed away from pychs because I don't know how to dose myself correctly. :confused:


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Re: Why the need for larger doses? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7494367 - 10/07/07 01:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Different people just have different physiologies. I have one friend who not only needs much lower doses, but they always kick in in ten minutes or less with him. Never fails.




This this is one reason as to why some people need larger doses and some need smaller doses.

However, there is another reason.

The more you trip, the more you know what to look for, the more psychedelic you become. You know how to anticipate a trip, and you know how to "read" a psychedelic. The more you trip, the more conditioned you become to the psychedelic terrain. You'll start receiving everyday visuals and a different frame of thought. In other words, your brain becomes rewired, and you understand the psychedelic experience. This, I believe, is the main reseason as to why some people need large dosages and others need small dosages. Some people are more experienced or just psychedelic in general, and therefore, they can get an experience off of .5 grams of cubes, an experience that others would not receive unless they ate 3.5 grams of cubes. Some people just know what to look for.

Yageman has spoken about this. He says that some people are just stupid and some people are smart. The stupid ones need larger doses, and the smarter ones need lower doses. To some extent, I agree with him. I gave a kid, who weighed a lot less than me, 3.5 grams of some very potent cubes. I asked him how his experience was, and he said, "Dude, I saw this really cool red dot on my wall!" Some people just don't know how to 'read' a psychedelic. I wouldn't exactly call some people stupid and others smart. In a sense, you can, but I mainly would just say that certain people have certain abilities, and other people have different abilities.

For me, I don't even need any amount of psychedelic to trip. I can self induce a trip.


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Re: Why the need for larger doses? [Re: Yayitsme]
    #7494377 - 10/07/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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personally my tolerance has gone down quite a bit, I was always sensitive to psychs but now a days I am extremly sensitive to them. I can trip decently off 1/4 a gram of shrooms and really fuckin' good at a gram. Lately my tolerence has been getting lower and lower and its made me space out my trips more aswell as taking less, in which now I have been subconciously pushed away from pychs because I don't know how to dose myself correctly. :confused:




See, exactly! The more experienced you become, the more psychedelic you become, the less you need to take! A fine example! :smile:

Usually, it changes like this for everybody.


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