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eleven34



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Re: Perlite the MOST DANGEROUS humidity tek can cause/aggravate lung disease and cause silicosis [Re: futurewolf42o]
#7489079 - 10/05/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't need to read it. For one I read the bag.
2. I have a lung problem called apical pneumothorax, I'm an X-ray technician with a bachelor's in Health Care Administration.
So it kinda pisses me off to no end when I see a cherry like yourself trying to act like he knows all this new shit. I know almost all there is to know about the functions,effects of,affected by,conditions and or anything else you can think of trying to figure out the problems with my lungs.
So I will waste my time reading a thread and posting back to it to keep useless threads being posted.
You can quote me all day. I think there is more people here agreeing with me and not you.
Just drop it. KID!
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monstermitch
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Well I'll put it this way.
I'm smart enough to wear an N95 mask around perlite. I wear one around vermiculite, diatomaceous earth and so on. I don't care what kind of fears anyone has about perlite, I'm still going to use it and reccomend others do so in my teks. I'll show that you should rinse perlite under a faucet before using it, as we all do now I'm sure, and nobody will come down with silicosis.
Perlite is not the only potentially dangerous substance we use. Hydrated lime, diatomaceous earth, vermiculite and other substances are also dangerous when inhaled.
We know this. Anyone who cares to find out easily can. It's kind of common sense to learn about the substances you're going to work with and to take the necessary safety precautions when doing so.
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futurewolf42o
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Re: Blah, blah chill out man. [Re: monstermitch]
#7489106 - 10/05/07 04:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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on a similar topic..when i was much younger i drilled a hole in a vase to turn it into (a rather beautiful) smoking device.
so excited by my accomplishment i quickly tested it to see how well it hit..without cleaning all the glass dust out of it.
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Captain Cubensis
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Registered: 09/18/07
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Re: Perlite the MOST DANGEROUS humidity tek can cause/aggravate lung disease and cause silicosis [Re: eleven34]
#7489111 - 10/05/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Perhaps, but search the posts for silicosis, RogerRabbit has NEVER mentioned it, neither has Agar.
Wouldn't that constitute new, if the two most respected posters have never mentioned it, ever, in THOUSANDS of posts, not once?
Yet read any MSDS data sheet, and it will tell you that breathing perlite can cause a lung disease called silicosis.
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futurewolf42o
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Re: Perlite the MOST DANGEROUS humidity tek can cause/aggravate lung disease and cause silicosis [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7489129 - 10/05/07 04:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Captain Cubensis said: Perhaps, but search the posts for silicosis, RogerRabbit has NEVER mentioned it, neither has Agar.
Wouldn't that constitute new, if the two most respected posters have never mentioned it, ever, in THOUSANDS of posts, not once?
Yet read any MSDS data sheet, and it will tell you that breathing perlite can cause a lung disease called silicosis.
its not talked about alot because we all know. and those of us that don't know, can read the warning on the bag when we buy it. thus you are doing nothing but clogging the board with useless warnings. RR's lack of posting on this topic just reinforces the fact that its trivial.
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Captain Cubensis
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Registered: 09/18/07
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Re: Perlite the MOST DANGEROUS humidity tek can cause/aggravate lung disease and cause silicosis [Re: futurewolf42o]
#7489149 - 10/05/07 04:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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A trivial lung disease?
How about "be careful not to breath in perlite dust, studies have linked it to a lung disease called silicosis, use precaution."
That would suffice, yet somehow everybody already knew it, without anyone ever posting on it before. Wow, that's cool man, hook me up with whatever you are smoking. Just kidding, I don't smoke.
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futurewolf42o
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Re: Perlite the MOST DANGEROUS humidity tek can cause/aggravate lung disease and cause silicosis [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7489167 - 10/05/07 04:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Captain Cubensis said: A trivial lung disease?
How about "be careful not to breath in perlite dust, studies have linked it to a lung disease called silicosis, use precaution."
That would suffice, yet somehow everybody already knew it, without anyone ever posting on it before. Wow, that's cool man, hook me up with whatever you are smoking. Just kidding, I don't smoke.
a simple modest warning would have been taken in stride in this forum.
btw. wtf is this you shitty fuck?
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Asante
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Re: Perlite the MOST DANGEROUS humidity tek can cause/aggravate lung disease and cause silicosis [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7489173 - 10/05/07 04:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lets all cool down guys.
Some say its low risk, some say its high risk, but most agree that there is some level of risk when handling dry perlite.
Personally I tend to steer clear of risks if they can be avoided, but we all make our own risk assessment.
Lets discuss this further in peace.
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futurewolf42o
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Re: Perlite the MOST DANGEROUS humidity tek can cause/aggravate lung disease and cause silicosis [Re: futurewolf42o]
#7489174 - 10/05/07 04:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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and this??
god it took me 10 seconds to find that. you really know how to get under people's skin. thats about all you are useful for..and that counts for nothing here. go back to whatever shit hole you crawled out of and ask them to take you back.
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futurewolf42o
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Re: Perlite the MOST DANGEROUS humidity tek can cause/aggravate lung disease and cause silicosis [Re: Asante]
#7489207 - 10/05/07 04:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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my bad. like i said he got under my skin. ive lurked here for years and posted for a couple on top of that and every time we get one of "these" it takes all my willpower to not talk shit. i know this is forum isnt the place for this. sometimes i forget i cant convince people that they are wrong..only experience will show. anyways i took one of those chillpills and everything is good. im gonna go play with my toys for awhile and let this all die down.
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nw_shroomy
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Re: Perlite the MOST DANGEROUS humidity tek can cause/aggravate lung disease and cause silicosis [Re: futurewolf42o]
#7489377 - 10/05/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Captain Cubensis
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Registered: 09/18/07
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Re: Perlite the MOST DANGEROUS humidity tek can cause/aggravate lung disease and cause silicosis [Re: futurewolf42o]
#7489421 - 10/05/07 06:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I said to search for silicosis, not "be careful with perlite", there is a difference.
I suggest you read all of my posts, and take note of the tone and content of my writing, then read your responses, I think you will be embarrassed by your insulting and childish attitude, when all we are trying to do is have a discussion on perlite.
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VisionsToReality
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Re: Perlite the MOST DANGEROUS humidity tek can cause/aggravate lung disease and cause silicosis [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7489423 - 10/05/07 06:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why don't we just drop this thread and all accept that:
Perlite can be very dangerous but if you wet it down and take precautions the hazard is greatly reduced. Yeah? Cool!! =)
No need to bicker any more than that I don't think. Let's get along, we're all in this for the same goal!!!! ! ! ! !!! !!!.....
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Captain Cubensis
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Registered: 09/18/07
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Re: Perlite the MOST DANGEROUS humidity tek can cause/aggravate lung disease and cause silicosis [Re: nw_shroomy]
#7489428 - 10/05/07 06:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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My point is this, humidity option A can cause a lung disease called silicosis, humidity options B, C, D, E, F, G, etc...do not.
Not complicated.
When you walk your doggy, are you in the middle of the road, of safely on the sidewalk/path/trail.
When an automobile is racing toward you and your doggy do you get out of the way, or do you take your chances?
I was ostracized for mentioning silicosis, something RogerRabbit, nor Agar has ever addressed. Further, there is limited evidence that perlite dust may be linked to lung cancer.
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Edited by Captain Cubensis (10/05/07 06:22 PM)
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denots87
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Re: Perlite the MOST DANGEROUS humidity tek can cause/aggravate lung disease and cause silicosis [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7489817 - 10/05/07 08:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you need to take a step back man.
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Perlite the MOST DANGEROUS humidity tek can cause/aggravate lung disease and cause silicosis
is your title to this thread. Yet now your saying:
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Further, there is limited evidence that perlite dust may be linked to lung cancer.
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Its one or the other man.
Yes MSDS states that it can be hazardous to your health, but so are many many other things in the world we live in. Unless your sticking your head into the bag and taking some puffs or simply just not using common sense when dealing with ANY dusty material the risk is rather minimal.
Don't breath in the dust, thats simple common sense. You don't try and breath in dust from a dry road, why would you breath in dust from a soil additive. If your so concerned where a dust mask, better yet a respirator.
On a final note your bashing one of the simplest and affordable teks to provide humidity . IMHO I think you need to read up some and search a bit more before posting teks/opinions that are misleading to those that are new to the community.
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