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Re: Cause of bad trips [Re: impeachme2]
    #7711890 - 12/03/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

wow having an epiphiany and being dperessed by it must suck, when the human condition gets me down i try and think about evolution and how we'll be looking back on the human race in a million years time and laugh about how silly we all were, i hope one day we evolve into beings who have no fear of one another and so dont need ot be governed by laws.


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Re: Cause of bad trips [Re: Chronic7]
    #7712038 - 12/03/07 05:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Chronic thats the best explanation I've heard yet. That would definitely explain my bad trips. When I started taking shrooms I always felt super human and had the balls to do all sorts of shit I would never do sober. I started trying to replicate that superhuman feeling and bring it on myself every now and again when I was planning to do something mad on shrooms and I usually had disasterous results. It was my ego that wanted to feel superhuman again.


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Re: Cause of bad trips [Re: jonnyjonjonjon]
    #7713180 - 12/03/07 10:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Man, amen to those who have truly never had a "bad" trip and have a hard time understanding them! But bad trips are real, you have heard of them right? Well that's because they do exist, just not for everyone.

Bad trips can be, and generally are, overwhelming. Typically terrifying, hence they are "bad."

I think there is a relationship between experience and bad trips. Experienced trippers are better adapted to understanding the nature of bad trips and steering their minds away from them, pulling themselves away from the spiral rather than getting sucked into it.

That's just my 2 cents, i'm sure there's a lot of opinions around this topic. But I agree with the author of this thread that once you've confronted your built up issues, that maybe you've avoided or suppressed, you're less likely to have "bad" trips.


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    #7714182 - 12/04/07 07:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Cause of bad trips [Re: Chronic7]
    #7714391 - 12/04/07 08:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

In my limited experience, my last shroom trip was a bad one.  I got very agitated as it unearthed some memories and feelings that were unresolved and made me confront these.  Right after the trip, I initially concluded that it was just a bad batch of shrooms but my friend had some from the same bactch and had a great time.  Only then, when I started to analyze what happened, that I figured out what actually took place.

Obviously I have some issues that I need to resolve that's causing my anxieties and so I'm looking forward to my next appointment with the shrink.  :wink:  I totally agree with those who said you learn a lot more from bad trips.


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Re: Cause of bad trips [Re: Xeluc]
    #7803786 - 12/27/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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jonnyjonjonjon said:
I've always said shrooms is the best psychologist you can ever have. Taking shrooms is chemically induced psychotherapy. I believe you can sort out more problems in one mushroom trip than you can in years of going to a psychologist.

Everyone I know thats done alot of psychedelics says the same thing.



and I agree with you 100%. I have helped myself more from shrooms and weed than everything else. I also agree that your bad thoughts can be suppressed and then released during a journey.
I do feel however that if you are strong-minded enough, that you can control your moods and emotions through meditation and self exploration. This also applies to tripping and making a good trip for yourself. having a clear conscience is immensely important as well.




i thought thats what some people took lsd for..
the feeling of clensing there body of all their so called 'sins'
bad thoughts..
say like if they were realy upset about something.. taking some lsd would put them on a bad trip but it was like they liked it, for the feeling after of being so refreshed and happy..

or am i just wrong??


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Re: Cause of bad trips [Re: A0999]
    #7804027 - 12/27/07 01:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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i don't understand what a bad trip is.

for me a trip is a trip.





I agree, there is no such thing as a bad trip.





Everything is an experience, it is all up to the user how he/she wishes to react.



Sure I've been uncomfortable many of times inside my own head, some would call that a bad trip, it is just tripping. You take the drug knowing whats going to happen, if you can't realize your on a drug and have a bad trip, thats your fault. ANY negative thoughts can be overcome by those of happiness.


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Re: Cause of bad trips [Re: MindGorilla]
    #7804088 - 12/27/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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The people I know who had the strongest minds (not neccesarisly the least problems in their life) before they ever started tripping have had little to no bad trips, such as myself.




I feel the opposite about this. I think it's easier for stupid people to have a good time while tripping because it's much easier for them to let go. I consider myself a smart person, and when I started tripping it was hard for me to deal with the lack of control I had over my normally very precise thoughts.

But I think Slimz said it perfectly, many of my 'bad' trips I now look back on with increadible nostalgia. If I only want to have fun on psychedelics, I now take a small dose. If I want "the psychedelic experience" i take a real dose.


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Re: Cause of bad trips [Re: g00ru]
    #7805294 - 12/27/07 07:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

bad trips stop existing when you stop qualifying your trips. just let it over come you. once you get to that stage, trips can only be measured in levels of:

"oh shit"-ness
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"wtf, i have never witnessed this before, but now i am, and there is nothing i can do except experience it, sounds good, strap me in, i am ready"-ness.

i know it's easier said than done, but it's so damned true.


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Re: Cause of bad trips [Re: g00ru]
    #7805301 - 12/27/07 08:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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guruu said:
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ColdCash said:
The people I know who had the strongest minds (not neccesarisly the least problems in their life) before they ever started tripping have had little to no bad trips, such as myself.



I consider myself a smart person, and when I started tripping it was hard for me to deal with the lack of control I had over my normally very precise thoughts.




your ego got in the way! but the mushies did a good job of reminding you to shake it off for a while :smile:


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Re: Cause of bad trips [Re: jonnyjonjonjon]
    #14921367 - 08/14/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i have tripped over 100 times off diff things like lsd lsa dmt 2c-e
2c-b doi dob salvia and shrooms. and i've nevr had a bad trip untill this year. i've taking shrooms about 30 times my whole life all with amazing results, this year i grew a few batches of my own i used B+ strain and did everything perfect i had no contamination on any of my brf cakes and the fruits came up healthy and strong, i've taken them twice now both times were extremely bad trips! it felt like i was in a nightmare. no matter what i told myself i could not make it stop,or slip out of it untill they wore off completely. it's almost made me afraid to take shrooms again. i've tried to figure out what went wrong could it be the strain B+? i've heard theories that indoor shrooms have bad vibes and you should only take natural shrooms which is all i've ever done b4 this. any theories? i'd love to hear what others think


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Re: Cause of bad trips [Re: Shroom Wizard]
    #14921730 - 08/14/11 04:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Om!


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