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Captain Cubensis
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Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting.
#7488558 - 10/05/07 01:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Am I the only one who feels a tyranny of thought here on the Shroomery. One guy was rated poorly cause he said Salvia should be illegal.
Berating people for opinions?
Is this the discourse of enlightened people?
I was called out for "having lots of misinformation here", a simple, "I disagree with you Captain...", will do.
When we reduce a message board to a police state of thought, with members reading through posts just to EXPOSE the fool, well, the fool is indeed revealed, isn't he?
If there is only ONE RIGHT WAY to do what we do, than surely one book could cover it all, and there would be no need for this site, or message board, if all we could do is reiterate the excepted doctrines.
If only one opinion or set of experiences is true, than the rest of us are what exactly? Liars?
Any thoughts?
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7488563 - 10/05/07 01:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Any thoughts?
I think this thread has nothing to do with cultivation...
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Bridgeburner
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7488568 - 10/05/07 01:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7488574 - 10/05/07 01:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is this the discourse of enlightened people?
We aren't. The Shroomery is a large collective of ordinary people, many in the guise of internet persona's.
One thing I see in Mush Cult is that there is a lot of parroting of "truths" and too little review of their validity.
What this forum needs is a group of Mythbusters which will investigate these truths and claims with cultivation experiments and a stickythread to show their findings.
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Edited by Asante (10/05/07 02:00 PM)
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Fraggin
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7488575 - 10/05/07 01:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Captain Cubensis said:
Any thoughts?
I thought this was the internet.
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Fraggin
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Asante]
#7488590 - 10/05/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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Is this the discourse of enlightened people?
One thing I see in Mush Cult is that there is a lot of parroting of "truths" and too little review of their validity.
That's why I quit asking cultivation related questions long ago. If you think it may work, try it.
I grew an amazing flush in my garage (with temps reaching 110F) in a 5 gallon bucket with 2" of substrate..... But the success violated many of the guidelines of optimum growing.
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Captain Cubensis
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Fraggin]
#7488601 - 10/05/07 02:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Right on brother, but that is my point, that members are made to stop asking questions, an insidious type of tyranny indeed!
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Fraggin]
#7488607 - 10/05/07 02:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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But the success violated many of the guidelines of optimum growing.
Thats why they're "guidelines," and not requirements...Many new growers/posters confuse the former for the latter and recite them as such.
Not sure what we could actually DO about that, though.
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Captain Cubensis
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Asante]
#7488614 - 10/05/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice thinking Wiccan, you are correct. We need a Mythbuster, who documents everything scientifically.
I just thought that psilonauts were mind seekers, introspective, enlightened generally.
But I think the guy who called me out is a lawyer, so that would explain everything. LOL
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Captain Cubensis
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: RoosterCogburn]
#7488634 - 10/05/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You illustrate my point exactly, efficiency is the virtue of fascists.
The whole debate I am trying to open is one of freedom of expression, and tolerance to other peoples claims.
There is a culture of discredit here, and I think it is counter to all of our goals.
If mycology is distilled down to one set of teks and ideas, then it becomes a dogma, experimentation should be encouraged, not ridiculed.
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Captain Cubensis
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: simplemachine]
#7488646 - 10/05/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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"Thats why they're "guidelines," and not requirements...Many new growers/posters confuse the former for the latter and recite them as such.
Not sure what we could actually DO about that, though."
We could stand up for our selves, and call to task the thought police, as they have undertaken to do to us.
As I said in an earlier post, when there is a motive to negate all discordant information, not that anyone is, or has done this, I just mean to say that when every thing comes down to watch a video, then this site becomes one continuous commercial.
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Edited by Captain Cubensis (10/05/07 02:27 PM)
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Asante]
#7488655 - 10/05/07 02:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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Is this the discourse of enlightened people?
What this forum needs is a group of Mythbusters which will investigate these truths and claims with cultivation experiments and a stickythread to show their findings.
Myco MythBusters, huh? I like it.
I can see Agar and RR doing something like that.
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monstermitch
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7488677 - 10/05/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree.
But I doubt you'll be able to do anything about it. The best thing you can do is research everything yourself, come to your own conclusions, and only post your experience.
When we all get into telling each other what is right and what is wrong, the process becomes hindered. Sure there's some learning involved there, but it seems as though that's not the kind of learning you wish to participate in.
Look for results. Look for someone who shows the results you are looking for and follow their method. If they don't have one, ask them to make one. If you have a good one of your own, post it in it's entirety. And don't worry about what anyone has to say about it. If it works, then it works, who cares what they say.
Folks here will always degrade each other and there will always be a pecking order... You'll just have to deal with that part. The key is to not let it bother you. Take this place for what it is.
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simplemachine
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7488688 - 10/05/07 02:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, but everything you're protesting against, which I honestly don't think is as bad as you think it is, was here long before RR's video.
Also, I don't believe he pays Shroomery members to rep his vids dump on other's teks, so anyone who does this is merely expressing their own opinion. This is how superior ideas/methods/goods spread their way through a community. If damn near everybody recommends a service or product, its a pretty safe bet that it works!
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: monstermitch]
#7488694 - 10/05/07 02:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You're just sore someone called you out for suggesting standing water in a fruiting chamber and disagreed that perilite was the worst humidifying method out there.
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Mankey


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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7488734 - 10/05/07 02:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Captain Cubensis said: "Thats why they're "guidelines," and not requirements...Many new growers/posters confuse the former for the latter and recite them as such.
Not sure what we could actually DO about that, though."
We could stand up for our selves, and call to task the thought police, as they have undertaken to do to us.
As I said in an earlier post, when there is a motive to negate all discordant information, not that anyone is, or has done this, I just mean to say that when every thing comes down to watch a video, then this site becomes one continuous commercial.
Yes, there are different ways to do things, but in many of those cases there is one way that is more sensible than the other. If we werent calling out newbs on bad ideas, they'd have a harder time learning the ropes and any other newbs happening to be reading the posts might perpetuate the bad ideas. Policing misinformation is a great way to keep things under control. Stop whining.
Edited by Mankey (10/05/07 02:51 PM)
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futurewolf42o
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: DigitalNomad]
#7488745 - 10/05/07 02:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i cant believe this thread hasn't been locked.
mycology...drama..whats the difference?
oh wait..
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Captain Cubensis
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: DigitalNomad]
#7488748 - 10/05/07 02:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well first off, RR has nothing to do with this except that many people will begin a post, "Blank Member is full of misinformation, watch RRs video", thats the only reason his name came up, not by me.
Roger is the man, no one doubts that, I am talking about freedom of expression of less popular ideas, firm ground to stand on for certain, with literally 3000 years of philosophical thought to back me up.
What I am suggesting is this, how about instead of GENERALLY and without any SPECIFIC instance of incorrect information members slander another members character, we simply say, I disagree with you , here is why.
Do you truly disagree with that notion?
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Edited by Captain Cubensis (10/05/07 03:00 PM)
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Mankey


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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7488757 - 10/05/07 02:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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futurewolf42o
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7488771 - 10/05/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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this forum is not the place for your personal issues. please stop posting until you have accurate/constructive information to share. or genuine questions to ask.
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Captain Cubensis said: Well first off, RR has nothing to do with this except that many people will begin a post, "Blank Member is full of misinformation, watch RRs video", thats the only reason his name came up, not by me.
Roger is the man, no one doubts that, I am talking about freedom of expression of less popular ideas, firm ground to stand on for certain, with literally 3000 years of philosophical thought to back me up.
What I am suggesting is this, how about instead of GENERALLY and without any SPECIFIC instance of incorrect information members slander another members character, we simply say, I disagree with you , here is why.
Do you truly disagree with that notion?
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: futurewolf42o]
#7488778 - 10/05/07 03:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Technically it's libel. It's a written medium.
Just want to make sure you're not passing on any misinformation there.
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Captain Cubensis
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: futurewolf42o]
#7488780 - 10/05/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Personal issues, how childish...I can here the goose stepping boots now...
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7488782 - 10/05/07 03:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Captain Cubensis said: Personal issues, how childish...I can here the goose stepping boots now...
i repeat. wrong forum.
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Asante
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: DigitalNomad]
#7488789 - 10/05/07 03:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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someone called you out for suggesting standing water in a fruiting chamber
I don't know about the incident but..
I have had great success with fruiting PF cakes standing dry on small dishes in a storage box with a layer of water in it, as a means to keep humidity up. My yields were as high as standard PF cakes can get without rehydrating them. (which I didn't know about back then in the 1990s)
For PF cakes, a layer of water in the bottom of a fruit room as a means of hydration can be all it takes. Sure, it can be optimized and is contam-prone, but I never had any trouble with it back then.
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: DigitalNomad]
#7488792 - 10/05/07 03:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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lmao. i concede!
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Mankey


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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: futurewolf42o]
#7488806 - 10/05/07 03:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm goose stepping out like hitler....
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Captain Cubensis
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Asante]
#7488811 - 10/05/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Right on, thanks, standing water can get you to 100% RH with little FAE, in a small enough bin, with condensation on your caps, not that you want that, but if the ratio of surface water is high relative to the fruiting tray, humidity is not an issue ever.
Also, there is no easier way than to pour isopropyl or peroxide in the water to keep it clean. How do you get a cleaning agent on perlite?
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7488820 - 10/05/07 03:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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h202 in perlite works wellQuote:
Captain Cubensis said: How do you get a cleaning agent on perlite?
h202 in perlite worked well the time i grew cakes in a pmp.
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Captain Cubensis
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: futurewolf42o]
#7488847 - 10/05/07 03:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, yes H2O2 works as well on lung disease causing perlite, and you have to dump tons of it on the perlite and stir it around to get H2O2 in all those famous crevices of the wonderful silicosis causing perlite.
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7488862 - 10/05/07 03:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Captain Cubensis said: Well, yes H2O2 works as well on lung disease causing perlite, and you have to dump tons of it on the perlite and stir it around to get H2O2 in all those famous crevices of the wonderful silicosis causing perlite.
wear a dust mask when dealing with dry perlite. when it's wet its generally not easily inhaled. many many people have had great success with h202 in their perlite.
distilled water is also good.
if you dont want to use perlite. use lava rock. ect. ect.
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: futurewolf42o]
#7488877 - 10/05/07 03:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I want to apologize because I believe that I am to blame for this thread getting started...I am the one that said Captain Cubensis had some misinformation.
But, first things first... Captain Cubensis, I am sorry if I hurt your feelings or made you mad! That wasn't my intentions. I never try to be rude to members on here. I also said in that post, that I'm not trying to be a prick.... At the time you made that post, you only had 29 posts and had been a member for about two weeks. I admit, maybe one shouldn't use that as an indicator or for a way to judge someone, but many times I have seen new members on here, with a low post count and a recent member since date, and they have given out misinformation to other new people. Maybe I wasn't giving you enough credit. If that's the case, I am sorry!
But, the post really wasn't that negative or derogatory that I posted. The guy that made the post was obviously new and was having some trouble. You told him that RH in upper 90's wasn't that important, to get as small as a tub as he could find, don't use perlite because it's the worst thing you can use for RH, have standing water in his FC, and to use verm in his FC. Although I don't agree with what you told him, or at least I wouldn't use those methods, they may in fact work. So, I wasn't slamming you. You're probably a pretty cool guy! So, please accept my apology and let's put this thread to bed!!!
For those that are wondering what the post actually said, here it is. Edit: And for those that read this, was my post that bad as to warrant this thread???
Jamaican: Im using a 64 qt/61 L tub with 2' of perlite but my humidity levels only reach 90% tops.Its sealed tight at the top and theres no holes in the tub. Is it because the tub is to big? Not enough perlite for that size tub? suggestions?
Captain Cubensis: Use as small a tub as will still work and you will be fine. Typically, 90-99% humidity will work, there is no need as far as I know to be obsessed with 99% at all costs.
Perlite is nasty, use open water or damp vermiculite, perlite should be banned!
I have never had any issues using open water at the bottom of a tub, or vermiculite, perlite is dirty, abrasive, and dangerous to breath, it is the MOST dangerous and nasty humidity regulator there is
Juris1: Jamaican.... I wouldn't place too much stock in what Cpt Cube said! Perlite, is in fact, a great way to raise RH in your FC. Yes, you don't want to breathe it in, but that's one of the reasons you rinse it off real well. Your mushrooms will grow better if your RH is closer to 99%. They will grow at lower levels of say 90% or so, but 99% is optimal. Why wouldn't you want to strive for optimal conditions?
I also have three 64qt Sterilite containers as my FC's, lined with 4-5" of well drained, damp perlite. If you are using perlite, you DO NOT want standing water in the bottom of your FC. That defeats the purpose of the perlite! The perlite has a large surface area with all kinds of nooks and crannies, and the air flowing through your damp perlite raises your RH. So, I would add more perlite, but I would also drill holes in all six sides of your FC, so it would be a shotgun FC. Have you seen RR's videos on Youtube? If not, watch all four of them. He explains the whole PF Tek process of making brf/verm jars. The videos are the actual footage from his 2dvd set. Here's the link...
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=let%27s+grow+mushrooms&search=Search
I'm not sure what captain cube meant by using damp verm? I've never heard of using damp verm to raise your RH. I have heard of using moist verm as a bottom layer of a casing. The only verm you need in your FC, should be on the outside of your cakes when you roll them in verm after you have dunked them for 24hrs!
The shotgun FC, involves drilling 1/4" holes in all six sides of your plastic bin. Then filling the bottom with 4-5" of well drained, damp perlite. The cakes should be place on a piece of alum foil on top of the perlite. Make sure you fan about 4-6 times a day. This set up works great. I've used it on all my grows, for cakes and casings and haven't had any problems wiht RH! Just make sure ang get a decent analog hygrometer to check your RH.
So....
1. Don't listen to Captain Cube. He's got some misinformation there. 2. Don't use standing water in your FC!!! Unless your making a Poor Man's Pod (PMP). The PMP has bubble wands in the bottom, lava rocks covering the bubble wands, water added into bottom to where it's about 1.5-2" below top surface of lava rocks, air pump on outside with hoses going through two holes to the bubble wands, and two more holes at the top of the bin for air exchange. 3. Keep your 64qt plastic bin. It's just fine! 4. Watch the RR videos on Youtube 5. Study, Read, and post back if you have more questions..
I'm not trying to be a prick, but you have to be careful on whose advice you follow. Some people say a lot of things but don't really know what they're talking about. I wouldn't be too inclined to take advice from someone with 29 posts and has been a member for 2 weeks. I don't think he was deliberately trying to tell you wrong. He just misinformed you! Good luck...
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Edited by juris1 (10/05/07 03:52 PM)
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: juris1]
#7488978 - 10/05/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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First off, I accept your apology, though not needed, or expected.
My only point of contention was that you said I had a lot of misinformation out there.
Be more specific with your criticism, so that I may refute, a general comment is mere propaganda.
I meant use as small a tub as his need required, i.e., don't put three 1/2 pint cakes in a 25 gallon Rubber maid, not rocket science, yet you seemed intent of disproving something I said.
Apology accepted, let's all agree to disagree, and to do so with class.
Since the beginning of this thread a few people have agreed with me in general, that it pays to shut up on here, is that the kind of space we want, after all, it could be anything we want it to be.
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: futurewolf42o]
#7488980 - 10/05/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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First off where the fuck did you come from?
What rock have you been trying to crawl out from under while getting that chip off your shoulder.
And for all the bullshit you keep saying. All of us here are not ZEN and the art of mycology. Your mumble jumble psychobabble about enlightening people and this or that.
Go back to myspace!
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Captain Cubensis
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: juris1]
#7488996 - 10/05/07 03:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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QUOTE:"Some people say a lot of things but don't really know what they're talking about. I wouldn't be too inclined to take advice from someone with 29 posts and has been a member for 2 weeks. I don't think he was deliberately trying to tell you wrong. He just misinformed you!"
I am curious, what exactly did I misinform him about anyway, as far as a yes or no, black or white, right or wrong sense?
Like I said, if it all boils down to watch so and so's video, then we kill the adventure, the exploration, and journey, which is after all, what life is, isn't it?
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7489016 - 10/05/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you were to read any tek's and forums of recipe's you would know that perlite's bark is bigger than it's bite.
Oh and you did misinform. What about using vermiculite as moisture control in the bottom of your FC and standing water. Those are both horrible examples of laziness and not willing to do it the right way.
I don't know why your still arguing about this. It's done your wrong put it behind you. Everyone has been wrong on here. Don't take it to heart.
Be a man suck it up and drive on.
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futurewolf42o
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7489021 - 10/05/07 04:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Captain Cubensis said: QUOTE:"Some people say a lot of things but don't really know what they're talking about. I wouldn't be too inclined to take advice from someone with 29 posts and has been a member for 2 weeks. I don't think he was deliberately trying to tell you wrong. He just misinformed you!"
I am curious, what exactly did I misinform him about anyway, as far as a yes or no, black or white, right or wrong sense?
Like I said, if it all boils down to watch so and so's video, then we kill the adventure, the exploration, and journey, which is after all, what life is, isn't it?
so and so (rr)is a respected member in this community. with countless tek's, investigative reports and thousands of pictures to back up the respect he gets.
adventure, exploration, and journey has nothing to do with telling people that their fruiting chambers should be 86 degrees and that temp drops have nothing to do with pinsets. it also has nothing to do with telling people that perlite will kill them. you storm in here with your balls hanging out and a whole lot of preaching but you have offered nothing.
btw, just because something can work, when it has a high failure rate, its generally discouraged to advise people to do so.
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7489052 - 10/05/07 04:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Did someone piss in your cheerios this morning or what? Did I not explain in the above post what I said about the low post count and other stuff? I said maybe I shouldn't have gone by that! I didn't realize that you were so brilliant. I said you had "some" misinformation, not a lot like you said! I've never heard of anyone using verm for RH, ever. Maybe it's the best thing since sliced bread. Maybe I'm wrong again. But here's what you said about it...
"Perlite is nasty, use open water or damp vermiculite, perlite should be banned!"
So if you want your black/white answer here it is, I think you misinformed him about using wet vermiculite for RH. There, I said it. I think for someone just starting out, that perlite, eventhough it's evil in your eyes, is probably going to be the easiest thing for them to use to get the results they want/need.
So, relax, take it easy, wtfe...i'll try not to post any more propoganda, so as to try and avoid anymore bs threads like this. I'm done, I'm over it...have a good day
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futurewolf42o
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: juris1]
#7489057 - 10/05/07 04:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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FIN
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juris1
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: futurewolf42o]
#7489061 - 10/05/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thank you futurewolf!!!!! This is so ridiculous....
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Captain Cubensis
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: futurewolf42o]
#7489066 - 10/05/07 04:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone can say suck it up and take it like a man, when he is getting the last word.
Damp vermiculite under your cakes mimics moist earth, which is where cubes normally grow, so the moisture provides a good micro climate for developing pins, and since vermiculite is non-nutritious, it is very contam resistant, in fact 100% as far as my foafs 2 weeks experience.
The addition of standing clean water provides the macro-climate of the bin, which like I said, depending on how many holes you drill, can provid an RH as high as you want it,and without electricity and tubes.
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Edited by Captain Cubensis (10/05/07 04:18 PM)
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7489091 - 10/05/07 04:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Captain Cubensis said: Anyone can say suck it up and take it like a man, when he is getting the last word.
Who said that? I sure didn't read it anywhere, and sure as hell didn't type it. Why are you putting words in my mouth? Putting words in someone's mouth is merely propoganda! dude, it's ok, let it go. No one cares anymore. Really, i'm over it... I hope you would be too. If you want to post back, post until your heart is content. I'm not going to post anything else on this thread. (there's no hidden meaning in those last few sentences so as to imply that i'm getting the last word; if you want the last word, great, go for it...i don't give a shit)
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: juris1]
#7489124 - 10/05/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's amazing how many times you reply to tell me "I am over it".
You didnt say it, I never said you said it, it's not in quotes Juris Doctor, it is a paraphrase of several disparaging comments I got.
Not everything is about you.
Did you read how I accepted your apology, and merely suggested being more specific when you criticize.
Not deep topics of debate really.
But it is funny, that you must get the last word by posting 5 times in a row, its over, I'm over it, by.
I am not mad, it seems like you might be though, you should look into it.
And "piss in cornflakes", how crude man.
Somebody needs a nap...
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Edited by Captain Cubensis (10/05/07 05:37 PM)
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: juris1]
#7489136 - 10/05/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey man this guy is a turd. Don't let him get you pissed. I already did. He totally pissed me off.
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Captain Cubensis
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: eleven34]
#7489139 - 10/05/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's the first sensible thing you've said all day!
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: eleven34]
#7489168 - 10/05/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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By the way I'm talking to Juris1 that your the fucking turd Captain.
Also I'm ex-military. Been deployed to Iraq twice for a total of 28 months. For one your Captain nothing. For two your the one not letting go not Juris1 he just got caught up in your bullshit.
3 I don't know what kind of hippi tree hugger zen master you are. You talk like an idiot. Read your post. It's like something out of some aromatherapy brochure.
I will go all day if you like.
I never quit. I guess PTSD is good for something. So if you want to keep this up we can.
I can keep insulting you as you are to others. I average 3 hours of sleep a night so yeah I'm crazy enough to keep posting to your bullshit. I will guarantee you will lose. Your weak ass won't be able to take it.
Also I think it's funny how you thank the "ONE" person who agreed with you and you acted like your point got served. It didn't, there is no point. You just need to get a job, or do something with your time. Pick your barbie dolls back up and let mommy and daddy play with the computer.
Plain and simple just go away.
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Asante]
#7489203 - 10/05/07 04:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Asante]
#7489232 - 10/05/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Spoken by a TRUE tree hugger. Name says it all!
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: eleven34]
#7489314 - 10/05/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Pecking order, Pissing contests, Beauty Pageants and censorship/blacklisting. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
#7489641 - 10/05/07 07:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: off topic!~ please only discuss growing related subjects in the Mush Cult forum.
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