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thedudenj
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ni all seriousness tho crystal lsa if you never had it in a good dose then you cant compare. tho you could say its more so a combo of lsa/lsh when acid/base extracted
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04281969
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If you are going to do a non-polar wash, let it totally evaporate. You don't want to smell ANY solvent left in the seed. Unless you want to get high on solvents, which is another ball game. I would let it dry for 2-3 full days. But, I try to plan ahead and pace myself.
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thedudenj
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: 04281969]
#7974626 - 02/03/08 06:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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on seed? i kinda didnt say it but thought it was kinda self explainitory unless did somewhere along the line 1.grind seed. 2.soak in acid.shake 3.strain seed from acidic solution. 4.add 1/10th amount of naptha not really sure on the exact amount you might need less. shake. 5.seperate and collect acidic solution then disgaurd non polar solution. 6.add base. to bring ph 9-10 stir 7.add non-polar solvent. stir 8.let seperate. 9. collect non-polar solution. disguard basifed solution. 10. evaporate non-polar solution. 11.scrap 12.weight out doses or seperate into equal piles equalivant to the potency of the seeds. consider this more effective at extraction so instead of 4 seed bags of heavenly blue 2 would make a dose. its that much more effective. 13.lick tiny pile of crystal.
some notes would be make sure your using good seeds theres other inactive alkaloids in the seeds with out a doubt i once extracted my friends home grown seeds which yeilded way more extract then it should have for the amount of seed and was very weak.
literaly your pile for a heavey dose should be the size of a acid tab so its really that little amount. so think about when you make a water extraction or alcohol how much of what you drink is actually the stuff. thats why i am always saying make crystals. but shrug the same could be said about dmt or mescaline and i do love my tea and do make tea with lsa seeds too. each to their own.
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WhereDoUwant2go
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Yes, but can't we just assume that we need one mole of acetaldehyde for ever mole of LSA?
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haze1205
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WhereDoUwant2go said: Yes, but can't we just assume that we need one mole of acetaldehyde for ever mole of LSA?
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: haze1205]
#7987437 - 02/06/08 04:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've heard that it is very hard to make/obtain LSH. The substance is supposidly very unstable and can't handle much. I would like to look more into this..
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: colimon]
#7988323 - 02/06/08 07:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Im not sure if making lsh by adding peppermint oil is a myth or not, i might try it one day.
I ate 5 HBWR last night. As usual no open eye visuals, but i spent most of the trip with my eyes closed. With eyes closed there were the most amazing images going through my mind. Each one was like an intricate work of art. It got pretty intense, i was so high and it just kept going and going for hours and hours until i got a bit overwhelmed. It was pretty awesome, i took three tablets of ginger i got from a vitamin store before i ate them, i had no nausea at all.
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jizmaster

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test the results and compare them to just taking the seeds...I challenge anyone to do this before I do.
Hehe, go for it, i said in the other thread i doubt it's stable enough to get into the brain but it's worth a try. Extract sounds like a good idea anyway, when i tried it the effects were promising but the feeling in my stomach even at a low dose was pretty shitty.
An alternative to using wine or peppermint oil as a source of acetaldehyde may be to just get drunk and let your body generate it! That might skew the results slightly though!
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: jizmaster]
#7992556 - 02/07/08 04:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Idea...If acetaldehyde is what is desired, then how about ingesting several coprinus atramentarius, then alcohol and LSA. I know, sounds stupid, but there will be high amounts of acetaldehyde in the body in order to make the conversion. Can't believe this hasn't been mentioned before.
Hmmmm...nah, bad idea. Maybe I'll try it someday...
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: haze1205]
#7992572 - 02/07/08 04:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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He means lsa
Fuck trying to trip of morning glory seeds unless your a highschooler with no hookups.
Grow mushrooms over trying to do mess with that crap. LSD is where its at.
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: baraka]
#7992920 - 02/07/08 06:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Um never heard of lsh.. LSA on the other hand is considered 1/10th the potentcy of lsd
When I ate 600 MG seeds give or take I was knocked on my ass, along with a deep 16 hour sleep =/
My wife would move me and i wouldnt budge, she'd do everything she could to wake me up
it was as if i was in a coma
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: Nexius]
#7992935 - 02/07/08 06:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I did a rushed LSH thing the other night with 34 HBWR seeds. It entailed drinking a shot and a half of peppermint-flavored everclear. Experienced mild psychedelic effects along with a heart-pounding inebriation from the alcohol... then puked my guts up in the morning while still tripping. Pretty much felt like shit through the whole thing. Not the experience I desired, but I knew what I was getting into when I rushed it and downed a shot and a half of 75% alcohol. The trip was definitely acid-like even through the drunkenness, with the intense vibrating body high and some striking fractal imagery, as well as some contemplation that followed up on my last acid trip. Had a thoughtful, if very groggy, afterglow/hangover. Had a full, delicious breakfast and felt right as rain.
I'm letting the seed mush soak in everclear for a few days now and will try it again when I've gotten the mixture to be much more alkaloid and much less alcohol. I don't know much about chemistry so I'm sort of feeling my way through this, hopefully I will learn from the experience.
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: A0999]
#7994665 - 02/08/08 01:15 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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crap, i haven't seen this one in awhile, the whole lsa lsh lsd conversation, keep it rotating, it can't hurt.... peace
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haze1205
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Tchan909 said: I did a rushed LSH thing the other night with 34 HBWR seeds. It entailed drinking a shot and a half of peppermint-flavored everclear. Experienced mild psychedelic effects along with a heart-pounding inebriation from the alcohol... then puked my guts up in the morning while still tripping. Pretty much felt like shit through the whole thing. Not the experience I desired, but I knew what I was getting into when I rushed it and downed a shot and a half of 75% alcohol. The trip was definitely acid-like even through the drunkenness, with the intense vibrating body high and some striking fractal imagery, as well as some contemplation that followed up on my last acid trip. Had a thoughtful, if very groggy, afterglow/hangover. Had a full, delicious breakfast and felt right as rain.
I'm letting the seed mush soak in everclear for a few days now and will try it again when I've gotten the mixture to be much more alkaloid and much less alcohol. I don't know much about chemistry so I'm sort of feeling my way through this, hopefully I will learn from the experience.
Was it more lsd like than just straight up eating the seeds??
34 seeds is a lot. did you eat all of them?
What im planning on doing eventually is doing a good extraction with rivea to the point where its a clean crystal and not goo. Take that disolve it in strong alcohol and add the peppermint oil. Keep in mind not letting any on this into light or heat as to not destroy the lsa. Then after letting it sit in the dark reacting im going to evap it down were it all can fit in a small dropper type bottle so one dose would be a few drops. Sound good?
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: haze1205]
#8950748 - 09/18/08 05:49 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol...did this work?
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