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haze1205
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how close lsh is to lsd?
#7488094 - 10/05/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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can anyone tell me just how close the lsh trip is to an lsd trip?
does lsh have as good of visuals as lsd? what about mind fuck?
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EllisDSox
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: haze1205]
#7488138 - 10/05/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's pretty unlikely anyone here has had a trip entirely on LSH. It's found in nature, as far as I'm aware, only in combination with dozens of different types of lysergic acid amides.
To answer your question (well, sort of), in my experience, apart from at very high doses, LSA isn't nearly as visual as LSD and the mind trip is fairly similar but lacks the depeth and meaning. In fairness to LSA, I haven't experimented much with various natural sources of preparations, and I know that more powerful effects can be achieved.
Overall, I suspect there's a reason LSA has never been close to LSD in popularity. LSD simply amplifies the positive effects and has almost none of the negative.
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: EllisDSox]
#7488152 - 10/05/07 11:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i know what lsa is like. Im just wondering about lsh.
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: haze1205]
#7488163 - 10/05/07 11:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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similar to lsa without as much of a body load is what I've heard.
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: haze1205]
#7488166 - 10/05/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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LSA was more sedative than psychedelic for me, really. a really couch locked typed dream.
If I ever found a successful way of converting the LSA into the "LSH" you're talkin' about (which isn't necessarily it's name), I'd try it, most definitely.. but it seems like if it were as great as it's supposed to be, more people would know, there would be more information regarding it, just.. something, ya know?
I was blown away by the potency of Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds.. so perhaps the supposed "LSH" would blow me away even more, I would hope so.. but it's doubtful
It's a good thought though
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EllisDSox
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: haze1205]
#7488170 - 10/05/07 11:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i know what lsa is like. Im just wondering about lsh.
Someone would have to take the time to isolate only a specific type of amide. This isn't something, as far as I in my limited knowledge of chemistry am aware, that can be easily achieved. Hopefully someone here has done this, and you'll get your answer.
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: EllisDSox]
#7488251 - 10/05/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I dont think he means it in that kind of way. If one were to try the extraction with the mint oil blah blah blah, how good are the visual and mental effects of THAT compared to LSD?
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: Moo456]
#7488283 - 10/05/07 12:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i always felt that LSD was just like psiclobin or LSA its just all the good parts that were extracted the pure bliss, only the stuff u want hoffman is tight like that he only provides the purest type of trip i always felt LSD is just like any other hallucinogen but its only the good stuff
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: Coaster]
#7488838 - 10/05/07 03:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Somebody posted a way of using sherry on HBWR seeds and convert the LSA to LSH a little while back. Try a search.
Supposedly, LSH is LSD's closest natural relative.
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: Divided_Sky]
#7488869 - 10/05/07 03:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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A posted a question in the chemistry section on this topic that hasn't received a reply yet. Looks like this thread is good for it too.Quote:
I've been reading around trying to learn more about LSH too. Seems simple enough if it's just a matter of adding peppermint oil during the process if it really makes that much of a difference. Does it?
I'm planning on ordering an ounce of HBWR seeds today and using this extraction method: http://www.clearwhitelight.org/hatter/LSAextraction.htm
Any suggestions on the best way to incorporate peppermint oil in that without changing the potency appreciably?
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: Coaster]
#7488912 - 10/05/07 03:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks coaster. I've read that thread a few times and still haven't settled my mind on this. I've got an once of HWBR seeds on the way. I'm kinda hoping to for the best results with the least experimentation. But isn't everyone? lol
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: haze1205]
#7489199 - 10/05/07 04:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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do you even have, or know where to get LSH?
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Coaster
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Quote:
TripityDooDaDay said: Thanks coaster. I've read that thread a few times and still haven't settled my mind on this. I've got an once of HWBR seeds on the way. I'm kinda hoping to for the best results with the least experimentation. But isn't everyone? lol
ya of course thats wut every1 is after im fairly convinced that if u take a lot of LSA it would be the same thing as LSD except LSD doesnt have anything that u dont want from a big LSA trip my theory is that LSD is just the pure trip of LSA
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: Coaster]
#7489480 - 10/05/07 06:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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IMO lsa feels ALLOT like lsd. lsa is kind of sedating though
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: A0999]
#7489805 - 10/05/07 08:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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WTF is LSH? an how is this the first time ive heard of it?
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: sui]
#7490160 - 10/05/07 11:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i think it got all hyped up after some dude talked about it in his pepermint extraction or whatever.
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EllisDSox
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: A0999]
#7490380 - 10/06/07 02:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's Lysergic Acid Hydroxyethylamide, one of many alkaloids found in Morning Glory Seeds, Ergot and Hawaiian Baby Woodrose. Apart from very slight differences in molecular structure, it's almost identical to LSD. However, experiences with only this compound and not the many other lysergic acid amides are hard to come by, so the status it has as "organic LSD" may well be totally undeserved.
Essentially, or so the theory goes, the more visual and thoughtful effects of LSA are attributed to LSH, whereas the sedative side of the experience is attributed to the other amides.
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Re: how close lsh is to lsd? [Re: EllisDSox]
#7490853 - 10/06/07 09:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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hey is there a way someone could send lsd through the mail i mean it has no scent or anything
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