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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Why I stopped posting in P&S [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7490989 - 10/06/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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MushroomTrip said: That's only because Hyper Spatial Elves leave no marks, I thought it was a well known fact.
Then what are these scratches on my back?
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Then what are these scratches on my back?
Could be Zoidberg's claws? 

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FocusHawaii
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Re: Why I stopped posting in P&S [Re: Ego Death]
#7491208 - 10/06/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm afraid you have made assumptions. I don't believe in aliens because I don't believe anything.
I just state what I and millions of others have seen - which is that I have seen a highly advanced craft landing that I don't think is likely to be human technology.
Ya, this amounts to a game of semantics whereby you're trying to place yourself outside the same framework you used to persecute other people on this forum. Anyone who isn't religious makes the same observations you do in order to form an idea of reality. When a ball falls a billion times, you can be pretty damn sure that ball is going to fall to the ground and you can believe the next time you drop a ball it's going to fall. This doesn't place you inside a bubble, if one day the ball disappears and a turkey lands on the floor I would reconsider my ideas on gravity not ignore it. But to try and say you don't believe anything is schizophrenic.
This could be assumed a reality bubble, but it is actually an observation. Its the same as me saying that a flame is hot. Most that have touched the flame would agree although you can debate forever about what the flame is, what the hot feeling is etc Clearly nothing can be proved 100%
Heat is an energy state, that's about it. Logical positivists ran into the problem of the infinite regression of verifiability, but then Popper presented the idea of falsifiability and a new way to verify the universe was in science's hands.
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Ego Death
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Re: Why I stopped posting in P&S [Re: FocusHawaii]
#7492084 - 10/06/07 05:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I must be scitzo then 
How can I truly believe anything.
People are telling me to disregard what I've seen - it never happened because it doesn't fit into the common consensus version of reality.
I can and do think its likely that the ball will fall to the ground but I cannot know it will or that the ball truly exists at all.
I think if your beliefs are solid then you are flawed, you can make observations of likeliness based on repetition - thats all. If you died and realized you were actually plugged into a reality simulator all along then you would realize that your beliefs were incorrect. As I and nobody else knows certain truth then how can I fully believe anything other than the fact I know that I am thinking/observing?
I don't think I'm persecuting people, I just disagree with some peoples methods of understanding reality. Peoples observations become their reality, anything beyond that is unknown and thus ignored but it doesn't mean it isn't there.
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Re: Why I stopped posting in P&S [Re: Ego Death]
#7492103 - 10/06/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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How can I truly believe anything.
If you're honest, IMO, you really can't. Especially your senses and memory.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Ego Death
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That is not what millions of others have seen.
Thats debatable. The many people who have witnessed these crafts occupants would agree that they do not appear to be human.
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That is a personal judgement (a chasm jump) based upon minimal information. One cannot look at a hull and tell point of origin.
I look at humans and see we are flying planes, we still drive using combustion engines. Its one hell of a chasm jump to say we are secretly flying craft so advanced that the can appear to teleport and defy gravity.
Then theres the fact that craft like this have been reported so long throughout history.
Which is the bigger leap of faith - to say these craft don't appear man-made or to say we have had secret technologies for hundreds of years that far surpass anything the whole known world has been able to create?
Theres also the fact that this craft seems to not give a shit who see's them. The one I saw low flew over a residential area and landed in fields. There have been many other reported incidents of the same. Why would someone fly a secret technology somewhere that exposes it - when theres no need to? Most countries fly their secret technology in places where it will be kept a secret.
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Re: Why I stopped posting in P&S [Re: fireworks_god]
#7492179 - 10/06/07 05:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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fireworks_god said: I personally stopped because I found the one I love.

I didn't know you were in love...
Oops... OTD.
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TheLightIsOn
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Re: Why I stopped posting in P&S [Re: Ego Death]
#7492271 - 10/06/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ego Death said: This is not a whine its an observation...
I stopped posting here because I feel that everybody is wrapped up in their own reality bubble, this is generally true for humans as a whole though.
It reminds of when I worked on a building site when I was younger - none of the workers could handle another worker suggesting a different or better method of performing a task. They would take it as a personal insult and put up their defenses and lower themselves to a game of subtlety trying to be the superior mind!
I explained my observation to them and they also resorted to performing the game upon me - thinking I was somehow actually saying that I was superior because I could see the game. I explained that my purpose for telling them was because I liked to be taught other methods - then I am more equipped to pick the easiest method of doing a job!
This is what I tend to see here. I came here expecting to see many very open-minded genuine people. Granted I have met more here than I did on the building site!
But this is why threads here really never progress, because each individual doesn't seem to be willing to give flexibility to ponder another viewpoint. People are too quick to try and defend their egotistical bubble, when often the bubble is not even being attacked.
That and the fact that only half the posters seem to actually read the thread and let the point sink in before they reply.
I'm here to learn - sometimes I do but not as often as I'd like too without these obstructions. Truly ask yourself - why are you here?
To the open minds that are here- Let us continue to learn!
Your observations are very true! Unfortunately it's survival of the fitist in the real world. It's the brain trying to stay alive in this cruel world. It's human nature for people to act in that way. Many people do it subconsciously. It takes the bigger person to realize what's going on and ignore it.
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fireworks_god
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Re: Why I stopped posting in P&S [Re: Icelander]
#7493523 - 10/07/07 03:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Icelander said: If that's true then that would have been your main reason to begin posting here.
It was. The main reason I have been drawn to interacting here was to develop my mind and a perspective congruent with reality in order to center in being, to find and be in love.
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Of course once one finds "true love" then all physiological and spiritual questions are answered for all time. That's just how life works.
Is this your experience in life?
It isn't mine, in any case. My last few days have been an intense experience of awareness and learning from reality, as my life situation has been changing, as well as developing myself, orientating myself through action towards a new point in my life...... The catalysts for these realizations have nothing to do with being in "true love", as you have chosen to express it as, although my situation is manifesting as it is to teach me these lessons because of the fact that I am "in love". In love, in being, being aware, its all the same. In expressing that I have found the one I love, it is simply stating that I have found an amazing person that I love being with, exploring reality together. I don't quite identify with your concept of "true love", my friend.
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