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Offlineleery11
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Stories
    #7487723 - 10/05/07 09:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Is there anything more than the stories we tell ourselves?

Why did we start telling them?

After Virginia Tech, my friend and I never watched the news.

Our campus was a place of peace and calm for us amidst the tension and nervousness of those who had the invocation of fear put on them.

Now, do those things really happen?

See, the tendency is to fret. To think that fretting is the only way to protect yourself from harm.

This is a big fallacy in so many ways from the standpoint of good health.

Firstly, if you think there is a God, then you have to understand he is on your side, especially when you aspire to be Near.

Now, secondly, if you don't, then there is karma which is just the same. Now we can look at, why did humans think of karma or God. Or did they come to realizations, was it higher thank thinking?

This is not so much my point.

But let us say then, that the entire world is perfect. The entire world is beautiful.

You see, when a young child is alive, and he is in a good mood. He is in heaven. But then his parents are watching the news and fretting about the Gulf War.

Now, to this child, the Gulf War doesn't exist.

And I will go ahead and say. NO WARS EXIST

Iraq? Who the fuck cares? Do you know what I mean? I don't mean it's okay to have a war. I don't mean we should let it happen.

What I mean is that I have to say that to take the worry and fear away. Because when we sit in front of story-tellers who convince us:
there is a boogey man
he is out to get us
we need to rally with the side of the hero to defeat him

we always turn to that hero, out of fear, out of fret

this is Christianity in a nut-shell

listen to the tales as we all rationalize our way into the arms of the savior

boast about the days when the rivers over-run

see the stories we are told, we confuse them with reality, because we are told they are reality

even if we know they aren't, we still have nightmares about Freddy Krueger if we've seen his films sometimes, don't we?

We all believed in Santa, didn't we?

So why doesn't anyone tell us the story that:
everything is okay
the world is perfect

I mean come on. You're a kid and you have legos, who the fuck cares about some imaginary gulf war?

Now, now, should we squander what we are given? It is good to help others.

But should we fret?

Why are we programmed to fret?

It is not rational. The child born into wealth (middle or even loewr class in America counts as wealth to an extent) has nothing to fear really, if this child were an authority he would teach grown-ups to play in sandboxes and be free from tension.

It is the grown-ups that put the lie cycle of fear into him.

Why? Where do they get it from?

Why is our fear of our mortality plastered all over everything? Children don't even know what death is unless you teach them about.

So what is death? Why are we programmed on a word level and hypnotised into submission?

Why isn't this Eden?

Is this Eden? Can't it be?

Imagine all the people, sharing all the world.
It's easy if you try.

Why don't we try?

Because:
killed by the husband
Drowned by the ocean
shot by his own son
he used the poison

these things, they cannot be true. They infinitely divide all people into boxes of paranoia and fear. It's a mental asylum. The universe is hostile? Please, what a lie. Don't lie.

Shot in the head and torso was the last thing I heard from the news. Shot in the head and torso.

Shot in the head and torso.

if that's all you hear you won't look into the strangers eyes and see him as brother

after-all you see him as strange,r that's your word right
STRANGER DANGER

we are taught to be paranoid.

i am saying this because I need to get out of it and be in Grace.

we need to have fundamental trust in the capacity of others to reflect our basic intentions of respect and altruism back to us.

we need to shatter the programs.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Edited by leery11 (10/05/07 09:14 AM)


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Re: Stories [Re: leery11]
    #7487734 - 10/05/07 09:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Stories [Re: Lion]
    #7487760 - 10/05/07 09:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe programs cannot easily be shattered. Icelander is 97 years old and he's still talking about how he is becoming more aware of his programming. So obviously it's no easy task and there's no overnight salvation. It takes dedication to observing your own conditioning and letting go. Most people probably won't acquire this kind of dedication, so all you can do is learn to become patient and cool yourself down when your thoughts and emotions want to carry you away from the here and now, into Eden, or Hell, or wherever you think you should be or might wind up.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Offlineleery11
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Re: Stories [Re: Lion]
    #7487764 - 10/05/07 09:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the Buddha told me I was one

and that hell is only real because people see it and grasp on

Icelander is really 97?


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


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Re: Stories [Re: leery11]
    #7487941 - 10/05/07 10:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The Devil is physical reality; mental reality is God. Its a war between physical emotion and what you actually meant; one big God damn sarcastic joke that you don't remeber telling yourself.


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So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.


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Re: Stories [Re: mikebart101]
    #7487975 - 10/05/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think this is an explanation that is more likely to sow confusion than point to any deeper truth about the nature of reality.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Stories [Re: leery11]
    #7488280 - 10/05/07 12:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander is really 97?





Nah, he just looks that way. All those drugged-out years really took a toll on the ole boy.


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Re: Stories [Re: Lion]
    #7488310 - 10/05/07 12:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

bug said:
Maybe programs cannot easily be shattered. Icelander is 97 years old and he's still talking about how he is becoming more aware of his programming. So obviously it's no easy task and there's no overnight salvation. It takes dedication to observing your own conditioning and letting go. Most people probably won't acquire this kind of dedication, so all you can do is learn to become patient and cool yourself down when your thoughts and emotions want to carry you away from the here and now, into Eden, or Hell, or wherever you think you should be or might wind up.




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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: Stories [Re: Lion]
    #7488567 - 10/05/07 01:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

bug said:Most people probably won't acquire this kind of dedication, so all you can do is learn to become patient and cool yourself down when your thoughts and emotions want to carry you away from the here and now, into Eden, or Hell, or wherever you think you should be or might wind up.




:thumbup: :thumbup:

The moment you wake up, pay attention to the self.


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Re: Stories [Re: leery11]
    #7488660 - 10/05/07 02:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

"Icelander is really 97? "
:rofl: yes, since he was 73 he grieved upon that illusory death anxiety, which is in fact only one little, unimportant part of the general, all encompassing 'existential anxiety'.
I must know, because I'm his grand grand pa.
:cool:

(sory couldn't resist)


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'


Edited by BlueCoyote (10/05/07 02:30 PM)


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