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How much does rue magnify psilocybin?
    #7486181 - 10/04/07 07:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I know that you should take anywhere between 3-6 grams of rue for potentiation, but what i haven't heard, and haven't been able to find, is how much more intense an maoi will make a mushroom experience.

I made a thread about this once before, and the people that responded told me to "do more research," which was exactly what i had done, which is why i made the thread.

Does anyone here know first hand what rue and mushrooms does, or have info about rue potentiating mushrooms, and how intense if makes it?

This is hypothetical:
Say i have a cut of mushrooms. I have tried a cut of the same mushrooms before. Say that I got a level 2 trip from them. If i were to add some rue to the experience, what level trip would i achieve from that same cut of mushrooms?

Anyone with any information possible please post. I've been trying to find this out for weeks and to no avail.


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Re: How much does rue magnify psilocybin? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7486361 - 10/04/07 08:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

why don't you just try a small dose of Rue and go from there?


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Re: How much does rue magnify psilocybin? [Re: onlynow]
    #7486366 - 10/04/07 08:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

When is doubt try it out...


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Re: How much does rue magnify psilocybin? [Re: Slimz]
    #7486375 - 10/04/07 08:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

That is something I have been saying for years :lol: :mushroom2:


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Re: How much does rue magnify psilocybin? [Re: onlynow]
    #7487716 - 10/05/07 09:03 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

TWO grams of rue is enough.

And it's not like you can be told exactly how much rue potentiates mushrooms, because it's different. The rue and mushroom trip is more like a synergy, not a potentiation. You will trip much harder, but the trip will also be very different because syrian rue is a powerful hallucinogen on its own.

This combination can take you to some amazing places though, and I hope you give it some experimentation. If you are not working with some ridiculously potent shrooms, go with my old adage: two and two. 2 grams rue, 2 grams fungus.

And do try to get some more info on the plant. Check out wikipedia and erowid.


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Re: How much does rue magnify psilocybin? [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7487731 - 10/05/07 09:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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This combination can take you to some amazing places though, and I hope you give it some experimentation. If you are not working with some ridiculously potent shrooms, go with my old adage: two and two. 2 grams rue, 2 grams fungus.




Agreed. Maybe take even less. I took about 1.2 grams of mushrooms as part of an ayahuasca trip and flew through space for hours, getting deeper and deeper until I was inside my own mind, watching synapses and cells creating sparks.

2 grams of syrian rue with 1-2 grams of mushrooms is plenty. In the instance I spoke of before, the trip lasted 10 hours, so be prepared for a rather lengthy experience. If you want to go with a higher dose, take more mushrooms rather than more rue, as it has some physical side effects at higher doses. Enjoy.


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Re: How much does rue magnify psilocybin? [Re: EllisDSox]
    #7487740 - 10/05/07 09:12 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, forgot to mention that. The trip doesn't really seem to end until you go to sleep.


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Re: How much does rue magnify psilocybin? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7487999 - 10/05/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

what exactly is "a cut" of mushrooms?


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Re: How much does rue magnify psilocybin? [Re: 2newtz]
    #7488309 - 10/05/07 12:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

"a cut" of mushrooms is like having x amount of shrooms
its just a variable amount
so if u have like 3 grams that give u lvl 2
how much rue to take with the 3 grams
and when u harvest shrooms u cut them off the base
a cut of shrooms is diff from cutting a bag of coke dont mix it up lol


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Re: How much does rue magnify psilocybin? [Re: Coaster]
    #7488335 - 10/05/07 12:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I always thought a cut meant 1/8 but people don't really say that down here so I could be way off.


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Re: How much does rue magnify psilocybin? [Re: EllisDSox]
    #7488718 - 10/05/07 02:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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EllisDSox said:Agreed. Maybe take even less. I took about 1.2 grams of mushrooms as part of an ayahuasca trip and flew through space for hours, getting deeper and deeper until I was inside my own mind, watching synapses and cells creating sparks.




interesting... somebody else who has experienced something similar to what i have.

people who work with dark room technology say the nervous system can become aware of itself.


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Re: How much does rue magnify psilocybin? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7489545 - 10/05/07 06:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i have done this. with slightly higher doses though. fear not.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7393918#Post7393918


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Re: How much does rue magnify psilocybin? [Re: waixingren]
    #7489566 - 10/05/07 07:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: How much does rue magnify psilocybin? [Re: nw_shroomy]
    #7489854 - 10/05/07 08:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

rue is more formally called syrian rue. Its a plant that contains an MAOI (monamide oxidase inhibitor). It neutralizes enzymes in the digestive tract that would normally break down certain things such as Psilocybin, and DMT. Since there aren't those enzymes to break them down, you get a much more intense trip, for a much smaller amount of psilocybin, because more is allowed to be obsorbed into the bloodstream.

Correct me if anything i just wrote is incorrect.


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Re: How much does rue magnify psilocybin? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7490372 - 10/06/07 02:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

All correct, you just forgot to mention the increased duration. At lower doses, it just feels like a long and intense mushroom trip, but as you take more the syrian rue plays a bigger role and the experience feels distinctively different.


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