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OfflineTheLightIsOn
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Re: Sex [Re: lysergicide]
    #7495824 - 10/07/07 07:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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lysergicide said:
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TheLightIsOn said:
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lysergicide said:
do you ever have sex just to please others?




I'm not referring to god when I speak of spiritual.

-PEACE




if you lead a tantric life, why are you considering god in a christian perspective? and not only that, why are you pushing that ideology away ? you're only pushing others away like that. listen...

god is free from sin. god is the ultimate reasoning. god is stripped of desire and god is all-seeing, all-loving. god is everywhere.

what makes this any different from nirvana or moksha? if you want to still consider it in a christian perspective, you could start differentiating a lot. but most religions have the same goal: to liberate yourself, and to become one with god. and in that same sense, isn't that a tantric practice? to liberate yourself and become one with yourself in search of understanding, of enlightenment, of oneness..

god is a beautiful, pure thing. even if it is not a deity. :smile:




Thank you for putting God in another perspective that I never thought of. I can definitely think of God in that way but not as thy divine one.  God was always spoken to me in the matter of a deity.


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Re: Sex [Re: lysergicide]
    #7500063 - 10/08/07 11:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

a) is there really such thing as "i wouldn't have sex with somebody like you, you're like a brother/sister to me?" aka, does a personal relationship (aside from family, concentrating on close friends) really affect the reasons why you wouldn't want to have sex with them? (sexual attraction, not social relationship)

I think people use that phrase out of fear of intimacy, or they are trying to let the other person down easy by lying.

b) even in relationships, do we not, at one time or another, have a sexual desire for somebody other than our own partner?

I think everyone does, and it's a lot more often than at one time or another. This is one reason why one man having a relationship with several bisexual girls is a good idea. :3some:

c) do looks really matter as much as people pretend they do?

I think many people place too much emphasis on looks, but men are biologically attracted to nice hip to waist ratios. Liking big tits might have some biological usefulness, but it seems superficial to me. Beyond that, being clean and healthy is the most important quality a woman can have. I think womens attraction to men is based on how the man can make her feel. Health is important as well, but I wouldn't say physical features are the predominant trait that women look for, even if some say it is. Fat ugly guys can get nice girls.

d) do we single out people who we are sexually attracted to and meet them just based off of that reason, that they are sexually appealing to us? and do we allow ourselves to open up and relate with them and get along, despite having nothing in common, in order to gain their trust in a meager attempt to get closer to them, to get closer to that fantasy?

On a biological level, men want to spread their seed to many women, and women want to receive semen from several sources. The "meager attempt" is a tragic set of events based off the minds interpretation of what society expects, and only happens because the person doesn't believe they're capable of doing any better.

e) how many people tease themselves through obscure behaviors to exploit certain sexual desires, and what do you think is the real percentage of people living with some kind of sexual fetish?

I'd say a large majority of people have sexual fetishes, though not everyone takes fetish to extremes.

f) and lastly, why is sex such an importance in todays world... in media, in culture, in society?

From a chakra frame, people exploit sexual energy in an attempt to elevate their awareness. Most people are living mainly through their first three chakras and their attention is thus centered upon sex and survival. This is why sex is overly dominant in many sectors of society. When people have trouble raising their awareness, they go back to what they know, and that generally centers around raw sexuality and survival mentalities. There's more to life, but people take what they can get and what they believe they deserve.


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Re: Sex [Re: lysergicide]
    #7501719 - 10/09/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Great post :thumbup:

a) is there really such thing as "i wouldn't have sex with somebody like you, you're like a brother/sister to me?" aka, does a personal relationship (aside from family, concentrating on close friends) really affect the reasons why you wouldn't want to have sex with them? (sexual attraction, not social relationship)

I'd say no.  Social situations might prevent anything from happening (i.e. between me and my friend's wife) but I think the sexual attraction is either there or it is not there.

b) even in relationships, do we not, at one time or another, have a sexual desire for somebody other than our own partner?

Of course!

c) do looks really matter as much as people pretend they do?

Not when it comes to sexual attraction.  A person's energy and behavior make up much more of the attraction than looks.

Of course, looks can be a dealbreaker, or they can help you overlook some of the person's less desirable qualities, like Veritas said.

d) do we single out people who we are sexually attracted to and meet them just based off of that reason, that they are sexually appealing to us? and do we allow ourselves to open up and relate with them and get along, despite having nothing in common, in order to gain their trust in a meager attempt to get closer to them, to get closer to that fantasy?

I don't.  I stall in relationships with women when I find we have nothing to talk about, no matter how attracted I am sexually.  Sexual attraction does not help me relate to anyone.

e) how many people tease themselves through obscure behaviors to exploit certain sexual desires, and what do you think is the real percentage of people living with some kind of sexual fetish?

100%

f) and lastly, why is sex such an importance in todays world... in media, in culture, in society?

Because it's one of our most basic desires.  We want it (along with food, oxygen, and security) more than anything.


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Re: Sex [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7502487 - 10/09/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i'm so happy this thread has developed into what it has. so many young brilliant minds speaking at once. :smile:


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Re: Sex [Re: lysergicide]
    #7505278 - 10/10/07 01:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

"Scientists suggest that these sudden, intense attachments are nature's way of drugging us, otherwise we would never be so stupid as to reproduce and spend our most productive energetic years chasing, feeding and socializing ungrateful half citizens. The more powerful a feeling has evolved to be, the more difficult the goal it must be trying to achieve. "

From a very interesting three part series on the science of male sexuality. Sex on the Brain by Chip Rowe


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Re: Sex [Re: Icelander]
    #7509253 - 10/11/07 03:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

thats a very insightful idea Icelander, thank you


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Re: Sex [Re: Icelander]
    #7509254 - 10/11/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

btw your avatar ftw


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