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Re: Sex [Re: Icelander]
    #7491200 - 10/06/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i'm sure a lot of people around here value your opinion. i know i do, you always have something logical to say and you're always helping me see new things in a different light.

thats what i like about the shroomery, so many matured and interested and interesting minds. it's not the same as in real life.


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Re: Sex [Re: lysergicide]
    #7491210 - 10/06/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

That's the thing about www.

BTW Icelander is nearing 15000 posts. Bring on the champagne


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Re: Sex [Re: lysergicide]
    #7491212 - 10/06/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

In "real" life you have to sort through lots of sleepers. Here folk are drawn in to the same interests you have.


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Re: Sex [Re: shakercee]
    #7491225 - 10/06/07 12:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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shakercee said:
That's the thing about www.

BTW Icelander is nearing 15000 posts. Bring on the champagne




I only drink raw vegetable juices.:(

At 14,000 I reached enlightenment. At 15,000 I will be the VOID.:whoa:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Sex [Re: Icelander]
    #7491226 - 10/06/07 12:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i also feel that in real life, people aren't as open as they are online, because being online gives them the opportunity to make statements and state opinions without having to feel judged or awkward in a face to face confrontation. it's funny how the little things that we've created in society can alter the things you say, how you say them, the timing...

i'm talking about the awkward silence, when you have nothing to say, when you have nothing to do but look at the person or sit there and play with your thumbs... i'll admit it, it's a little confrontational and intimidating sometimes. you just feel weird and you're not really acting how you want to. but the internet allows us to put all of that behind us, and though it seems like a bad thing, i think it's a good thing. it's just important to translate that into reality, so you don't have to feel awkward around people.

i like the shroomery... sure, a lot of people share my same interests. but i think it's because there are so many people with so many things to say, and i'm interested in hearing all of them. and theres a lot more individuality around here than you'd imagine.

shroomery has been pretty damn good to me, i'm proud to be apart of it. :smile:


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Re: Sex [Re: lysergicide]
    #7491258 - 10/06/07 12:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I enjoy this place also. It's more interactive than TV which I discarded many years ago. I never got to be on the debate team when I was a kid and so I have gotten my shot here. I'm also made a couple of really good friends, one of whom visits and plays with me each summer.:thumbup: He's much better in real life then on the forums.


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Re: Sex [Re: Icelander]
    #7491274 - 10/06/07 12:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

television, like movies, depress me to a certain extent. i feel like i'm admiring and watching others live out their lives while my day slowly passes. i only watch sports on TV, and i actually don't even watch the full games. i watch the history channel as i fall asleep.

but TV and movies for me, well, i'd just rather go out and have some fun with my friends. even if it's interesting, i don't stick around too long. i'll dedicate some time to it, but don't expect me to be watching for a few hours though. ha, not even 2.


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Re: Sex [Re: leery11]
    #7491821 - 10/06/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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leery11 said:
The only thing I know about sex is that it is a strangling force in my energy body.

Something to cut away.

The desire pollutes everything. The addictive craving. Desperate and ravenous clinging to an IDEA a mere illusion of pleasure sold to you through the media.

Tantra is the proper route to sexual liberation.

otherwise you are just craving something.

Lets invert that though, maybe you crave it because you are hungry and have a real need? Is this possible?




That craving you and everyone feels is the unarticulated desire to pass on your genes. Nothing to feel bad about, or disgusted, or ashamed. It's frustrating, but it can be managed without having to resort to drastic measures.


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Re: Sex [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #7491858 - 10/06/07 03:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, that post seemed so negative and fear driven. This is what modern culture does to the basic human need for sexual expression. :frown:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: Sex [Re: leery11]
    #7491873 - 10/06/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

a) definitely. is this question arising from the relationship between you and your best friend that u speak of?

b) i think its perfectly fine to have sexual desire for others, its natural. theres more to a relationship than sex.

c) looks play a major part, but for relationships, theres much more to it.

d) I do tend to single out people that i am sexually attracted to, more so based on a desire for some fling or what not. sexual attraction might not be limited to looks thou, ive seen some females with cool attitudes that do the same to me in regards to attraction. i like meeting different people and hearing what people think, but theres only so far id go to try to discover what they are really about. Like, i have gotten to the point where ive considered a female a selfish bitch that was a total waste of time. pardon the foul language hah.

e) i think a shitload of people have fetishes. i in fact blame pornography for a good deal of mine. the concept of BBW does numbers to me (kidding, kind of). And as for statistics, something like a quarter of all suffocation deaths are due to auto erotic asphyxiation, so do the math yourself.

f) i dont think its more important in the world today. art sought to beautify the naked body throughout the past, kings had hundreds of wives, shakespeare was filled with sexual implications, and ancient greece was filled with sex. i think its just become more acceptable in the mainstream that we are where we are now.


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Re: Sex [Re: Darylbe]
    #7491910 - 10/06/07 04:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Darylbe said:
a) definitely. is this question arising from the relationship between you and your best friend that u speak of?





actually it's not, but i'm sure it probably came up between us before, i don't know.

but why do you say 'definently'?


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Re: Sex [Re: lysergicide]
    #7492127 - 10/06/07 05:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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lysergicide said:
i also feel that in real life, people aren't as open as they are online, because being online gives them the opportunity to make statements and state opinions without having to feel judged or awkward in a face to face confrontation. it's funny how the little things that we've created in society can alter the things you say, how you say them, the timing...

i'm talking about the awkward silence, when you have nothing to say, when you have nothing to do but look at the person or sit there and play with your thumbs... i'll admit it, it's a little confrontational and intimidating sometimes. you just feel weird and you're not really acting how you want to. but the internet allows us to put all of that behind us, and though it seems like a bad thing, i think it's a good thing. it's just important to translate that into reality, so you don't have to feel awkward around people.





i just want to start by addressing this post (previously, i just posted my responses to your questions. after reading through your posts, im responding a bit more).

so in regards to people being open on the internet, many people feel this. i definitely think this technology that is becoming so ordinary in our society is seriously screwing many of us. whether it be people watching tv, being consumed by the computer and "interacting" through im's and shit (you know the WoW southpark episode? its hilarious, but i definitely have a good friend that is basically losing his life to it... as a senior in college. strange.). Basically emails, text messages and ims allow us to express what we feel in words while eliminating feelings from them. I know I am not one to pour my heart out in person to people, so ive been doing my best, and I find writing them sincere letters is helping a bit, but its still not as true as in person.

I also feel this time of situation is affecting the number of people that participate in my classes. for example, in my philosophy course i feel that a solid 10% of the class really participates, and it all pretty much rolls into the same bunch of bullshit with little opposition. this has bothered me to the extent that i am trying to set up a group online where people can feel free to express that which they actually desire to say... i know i would definitely enjoy hearing from those people that really want to say something, just not in front of everyone for possible consequences or chance of rejection.

so i am in boston, and the number of people that have their headphones on, or are on a cellphone, or are texting... its ridiculous. its pretty much like people are just on these tracks and completely oblivious to the word and zombie like. 10 years ago that shit wouldnt happen and i bet it was 20x easier to start random conversation. I will even admit that I am guilty of these acts as well.

ok ok so thats my general response, take what you wish from it haha.

as for your question of why i say definitely, you caught me. i might have been so sure of my answer that it just came out off the tongue, but i feel a bit mixed (dont worry, if you challenge any of my other responses I will be able to support myself haha)

ok so lets say 2 people, opposite sex. consider each other best friends. at that particular time, it is totally understandable that one or the other, or both, would find it completely awkward to have sex. hence why i would find the response to be possible. this can totally change though, just like friends can grow apart and new friendships can form. if we see a situation where they get drunk and have sex, i think it will either escalate to something more, or an opposite affect of a period of awkwardness can arise (my ex and her boy were very best friends and a drunken hook up lead to a relationship. i on the other hand experienced the month long awkward period [luckily it was the summer so the situation had time to calm haha]. I think drunken hook ups can force the change to occur much faster than planned. without the influences, i think that the change is much more gradual.


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Re: Sex [Re: lysergicide]
    #7492255 - 10/06/07 06:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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lysergicide said:
do you ever have sex just to please others?




ALWAYS! I am never in it for self pleasure. I live a very spiritual and tantric life. I'm not referring to god when I speak of spiritual.

-PEACE


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Re: Sex [Re: TheLightIsOn]
    #7492273 - 10/06/07 06:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Some meter of mine just went off.


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Re: Sex [Re: Darylbe]
    #7492332 - 10/06/07 07:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Darylbe said:
Quote:

lysergicide said:
ok so lets say 2 people, opposite sex. consider each other best friends. at that particular time, it is totally understandable that one or the other, or both, would find it completely awkward to have sex. hence why i would find the response to be possible. this can totally change though, just like friends can grow apart and new friendships can form. if we see a situation where they get drunk and have sex, i think it will either escalate to something more, or an opposite affect of a period of awkwardness can arise (my ex and her boy were very best friends and a drunken hook up lead to a relationship. i on the other hand experienced the month long awkward period [luckily it was the summer so the situation had time to calm haha]. I think drunken hook ups can force the change to occur much faster than planned. without the influences, i think that the change is much more gradual.




i'm not talking about the social awkwardness though, i'm trying to excuse that. i'm talking about just the idea of sexual attraction, and its effects on our close friends and how we see each other as possible fucks.

aside from the social awkwardness, what is there that is ultimately stopping them from even saying "you're sexually attractive" ?

is it over time we learn to see people in a different light that we don't find sexual? very unlikely. we're only trying to get off. best friendship doesn't make anybody less physical appealing.

i'm getting lost in my thoughts, i'm trying to figure this out myself...

i think that quote, "i wouldn't have sex with you, you're like a brother to me" is an excuse you use on somebody you don't find sexually attractive.


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Re: Sex [Re: lysergicide]
    #7492357 - 10/06/07 07:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know man, there are friends of mine that I think are physically attractive, but they are too much like brothers to go there. I have good looking male friends that I don't want to have sex with. :smirk: I'm sure that phrase gets used as polite excuse often enough, but that's not the only reason someone would say it.


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Re: Sex [Re: TheLightIsOn]
    #7492361 - 10/06/07 07:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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TheLightIsOn said:
Quote:

lysergicide said:
do you ever have sex just to please others?




I'm not referring to god when I speak of spiritual.

-PEACE




if you lead a tantric life, why are you considering god in a christian perspective? and not only that, why are you pushing that ideology away ? you're only pushing others away like that. listen...

god is free from sin. god is the ultimate reasoning. god is stripped of desire and god is all-seeing, all-loving. god is everywhere.

what makes this any different from nirvana or moksha? if you want to still consider it in a christian perspective, you could start differentiating a lot. but most religions have the same goal: to liberate yourself, and to become one with god. and in that same sense, isn't that a tantric practice? to liberate yourself and become one with yourself in search of understanding, of enlightenment, of oneness..

god is a beautiful, pure thing. even if it is not a deity. :smile:


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Re: Sex [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7492472 - 10/06/07 07:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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NiamhNyx said:
I don't know man, there are friends of mine that I think are physically attractive, but they are too much like brothers to go there. I have good looking male friends that I don't want to have sex with. :smirk: I'm sure that phrase gets used as polite excuse often enough, but that's not the only reason someone would say it.




That reminds me of the classic guy romance movie: "When Hairy Met Clean-Shaven"...


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Re: Sex [Re: Veritas]
    #7492581 - 10/06/07 08:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

fetishes are hard to live with, it's whole different kind of lonely.


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Re: Sex [Re: moon_glue]
    #7493281 - 10/07/07 12:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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moon_glue said:
fetishes are hard to live with, it's whole different kind of lonely.




And what exactly, in your opinion, is a "fetish"? What makes it so hard to live with them?


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