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Jair
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Aiding a First Timer (Updated with Report)
#7484620 - 10/04/07 11:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hello everyone. I have been reading up a bunch on the "wonderful" chemical known as LSD. I have happened to come across some of it and will be receiving 5 hits of approx. 140 micro blotter LSD for $50 very soon. My time has now been chosen to embark on the wonderful journey that acid offers, I know that I am ready. It is my time.
I have tried a very low dose of mushrooms before and have gotten threshold effects, I have also tried LSA which didn't really make me trip at all and just gave me a nice body high. Even though I would love to gain the knowledge that LSD can give, I am by no means trying to rush to my experience; I will wait for a weekend when I have no demands or anything important going on.
That brings me to my questions. My situation is as thus. I have talked to a very good friend of mine and he will be happy to have me over for a night and will be my trip sitter. Do you think this is necessary for a newbie? As much as I would love to have my first LSD experience alone, I would also like to know I will be in safe hands. I still live with my parents so if I do it at home will I be able to enjoy my trip without waking them up?
Aside from knowing where to trip, I am also quite confused on how much to dose. Is 140mics enough for a first-timer? Too much? I was planning on taking one hit of 140, waiting a bit, and then taking another half if it's not enough. I am a very peaceful person and rarely have anything to worry about, I think I could easily cope with a "bad trip" but I'm not even worried about those. It's all a learning experience. I would like these 5 hits to last me a good couple of months, and I only plan doing them about once or twice a month.
So to sum it all up, I want to enjoy my experience. I want to be able to get nice effects, not just threshold, however, I don't want to be completely away from the universe. In my situation how much would you take? Would you be with a friend? Would you risk doing it at home without waking up your parents? Will I be able to interact with people if I need to? Should I take less if I'm at home and more if I'm with a sitter? And finally, I feel that I am very mentally prepared for LSD, do you feel that I am?
I will update this thread as I undergo my experiences.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7484658 - 10/04/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Trip sitter GOOD
1 hit is all you need PERIOD
Parents BAD (although home is sometimes safer for you mind)
WHERE ? ? well i say dose 1 hour before dusk (dusk is AMAZING )
be outside under supervision (away from cops and houses) until the peak is over (about when the night has completely fallen)
And then just play it by ear.
Has your friend tripped before? does he know what to expect?
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Slimz]
#7484671 - 10/04/07 12:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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No my friend has never tripped before but I sat him down and had a long talk about what to expect. He knows it is a serious matter and he said he won't judge me or laugh at me and he will comfort me if I need it.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7484680 - 10/04/07 12:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh.. he will laugh at you... trust me.. you will laugh too....
If its too intense, move to a quiet place and sit and rest and have him sit with you and just blurt out whatever you are thinking.. trust me it helps
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Slimz]
#7484690 - 10/04/07 12:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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So 140 mic is by no means too little of a dose?
Also will I want my mp3 player with me? I think I will have plenty of stuff to do, he said we can walk around the woods or something if I feel up to it.
I think I'll dose at about 6 or 7 p.m. and just let it run through the night.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7484710 - 10/04/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Trip sitter is a very good idea.
1 tab will definately do the trick , hopefully you know your source and your not getting bummed over.
I would probably dose about 5-6 hours before sunset, so that i can watch the sunset while peaking. Bring some tasty snacks.
And dont do it anywhere near your parents the first time.
Just my ideas on it. Enjoy
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7484712 - 10/04/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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woods ROCK .. don't loose him... 1 hit is fine for first time mp3 player can bee good but leave it IN the house.. use it when you are in a lull and close your eyes.. its EASY to loose stuff when tripping.. empty your pockets ahead of time
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: blacksun]
#7484721 - 10/04/07 12:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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blacksun said: hopefully you know your source and your not getting bummed over.
Oh yes I forgot to mention that the source is very good and I am almost 100% sure that the 140 guess is correct. So answer all of these question based on the fact that it is 140 mics and try not to let the idea that it could be bunk cross your mind.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7484749 - 10/04/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you have a good idea of what you are getting into, what you want, and how you are built as a person.
Just take the player if you feel a need, let the decision come when it has to, you may not even feel you want it on your way to the woods or wherever. Best laid plans are sometimes unnecessary, esp. for a person like you, who is going in with a (relatively) open mind. Just let go, and youlll be fine.
You already have everything in place. HAVE FUN!!!
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: gmuralid]
#7484773 - 10/04/07 12:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah and you have a sitter so the worst that can happen, wont.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Slimz]
#7484845 - 10/04/07 12:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Eat six to ten acid tabs and u will fly,,but dont take this for fact as every one is different but we (my mates and i ) used to have a good drink a few joints and then let the acid flow you cant make much sence of it but its good then befors the acid kicks in double drop e its great but not for every one !!
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Slimz]
#7484912 - 10/04/07 01:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Slimz said:
its EASY to loose stuff when tripping.. empty your pockets ahead of time
lol, i always find my pokets accmulate random shit throughout the trip. one time in the morning after a barn rave ive emptied them to find stuff like a piece of green string, a small plastic penguin and several lighters.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Littleman]
#7485025 - 10/04/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol, i always find my pokets accmulate random shit throughout the trip. one time in the morning after a barn rave ive emptied them to find stuff like a piece of green string, a small plastic penguin and several lighters.
ROFL I too used to do that. Just totally random shit that caught my interest at some point along the way. 
Jair. I think you will be fine with no more than one hit and following the suggestions given thus far with the exception of grandesign's.
Hope ya have a great time.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: grandesign]
#7485105 - 10/04/07 02:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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grandesign said: Eat six to ten acid tabs and u will fly,,but dont take this for fact as every one is different but we (my mates and i ) used to have a good drink a few joints and then let the acid flow you cant make much sence of it but its good then befors the acid kicks in double drop e its great but not for every one !!
Worst advice ever. 6-10 tabs for a first trip, on 140mic blotter? AND mdma? Oh dear...
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: AlCapwn]
#7485116 - 10/04/07 02:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ah the tripper, and the pockets...
Im a dropper, your a finder, Its all gone with no reminder, you got random blessings true, And i gladly give it all to you
unless its my wallet, in that case do the right thing.
(just made that up )
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Slimz]
#7485511 - 10/04/07 04:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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100ug is perfect for the first time.. if ANYthing what you're taking is a little too high, but it depends how comfortable you are.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Cyrone]
#7485770 - 10/04/07 05:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for all thelp guys, I'm thinking I'll be cool with one tab. How hard is it interacting with people? I def. wont be driving or anything but what if my friend and I decide to go the store or something?
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7485779 - 10/04/07 05:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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you will be ok AFTER the peak once your more firmiliar with the effects.. but hide your eyes.. large pupils are EASY to spot.. better just have your friend go in for you.. dont go to the mall or crowded places where you may get paranoid that everyone knows your tripping.. stick to you and your friend and other trusted people in a save non public place..
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7485784 - 10/04/07 05:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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That is iffy and depends on how you take to it. You are just going to have to wait and see on that one imo.
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youll be fine man see if you can get another friend to take the same amount as you being "locked in" mentally with someone else is one of the craziest things ever
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: TheEric]
#7486133 - 10/04/07 07:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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AGREED !!!! you will get to laugh at all the people that dont get it...
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Slimz]
#7486206 - 10/04/07 07:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im not to good with dosage, whenever ive got acid ive had no idea how much was in it. But from what ive read here and other places 140 mics is a good tab, you will definately experience a decent acid trip. Expect to laugh uncontrollably for many hours, and to fall into nice trances. Personally i love acid, im preety sure you will to.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: DimensionX]
#7486220 - 10/04/07 07:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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90 to 150 is your average "tab" a 140 tab is good..
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Slimz]
#7486230 - 10/04/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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a 140mic tab is a great tab, about the strongest you'd find on a tab unless you know some1 who makes it and that person is given a special order.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: opensaysme]
#7488158 - 10/05/07 11:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the help everyone. One more thing. I heard that if you smoke a little bud that it increases the experience by a great deal. Is this necessary? I can get some bud if I have to but I don't smoke it too often for undisclosed reasons.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7488176 - 10/05/07 11:59 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jair said: One more thing.
Ok I lied, I have another question to ask as well. Should I just leave the blotter on my tongue for a few minutes and then just swallow it with some water or something? Or do I need to leave it on there longer than that?
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7488211 - 10/05/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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left it under your tongue for 30 minutes
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: blacksun]
#7488419 - 10/05/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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blacksun said: left it under your tongue for 30 minutes
Whoah a little longer than I realized.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7488561 - 10/05/07 01:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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as long as you swallow it, it doesnt really matter how long you keep it under your tongue. i usually hold it there for around 30 minutes as well though because in general it will hit you faster that way.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: opensaysme]
#7488597 - 10/05/07 02:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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its a little easier if you stick it between your cheek and gum in the back of your mouth.. same effect if ya ask me..
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7488610 - 10/05/07 02:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jair said: Thanks for all the help everyone. One more thing. I heard that if you smoke a little bud that it increases the experience by a great deal. Is this necessary? I can get some bud if I have to but I don't smoke it too often for undisclosed reasons.
And what about this?
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7488632 - 10/05/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's all up to personal preference, it will change your trip but how it changes it many people disagree on. Some say it enhances visuals and makes it more "trippy" other people will say it clouds the experience and an acid trip is more focused without bud. I personally smoke lots of weed every time i trip, for me it is a must; but i have some friends who will either not smoke at all or only once to relax during the come-up.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: opensaysme]
#7488637 - 10/05/07 02:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I think for the first time I am going to stick to just the acid so that I can get the full effect of only the LSD and nothing else.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7488844 - 10/05/07 03:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I think for the first time I am going to stick to just the acid so that I can get the full effect of only the LSD and nothing else
Defo a good plan
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: blacksun]
#7489058 - 10/05/07 04:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Go ahead and burn one after you take your hit. I'll ease the pre-trip anxiety so that you can sail into a good trip. Its also great for trip boredom, when you could use a little more visuals.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: JRayV]
#7499277 - 10/08/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I spent the last couple of days reading about trip sizes and such. It turns out that a lot of people take insane amounts of LSD. And I'm talking like 400 mic+. Maybe this doesn't even seem that insane to some of you but it just seems crazy to me. They were talking about taking like 5+ hits. That seems pretty intense, not to mention pretty damn expensive.
Anyway, I was just wanting a few more opinions to make sure that 140 mic is where I want to be. I'm not going to over-do it my first time anyway, but maybe for future reference (of course then I will have my own personal experience to go off of).
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7503100 - 10/09/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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140 is definitely perfect since you're so well-prepared. In my opinion, you don't really need to keep it under your tongue for more than 20 minutes tops... but it's a tiny piece of paper it doesn't really annoy you. As for the environment, feel free to be somewhere exciting like a busy street or something. I've only done acid once but hitting up cafes with my friends was some of the funnest memories I've had. Keep in mind that while you can act sober, for the first 3-4 hrs you will have bouts of laughing uncontrollably, so stay away from large groups of people if you feel you'll have that case while coming up. Some other small tips:
- see the best places to "trip" as in see walls moving, make sure you're in a place with patterned walls, tiles, ceilings and whatnot. Because, after about 8 hours, it won't be as "crazy", so the only thing left to do is simply watch objects morph and swirl. I've found that bathrooms are a sweet place to do this since they usually have cool patterns.
- if you're taking it at 6pm (!), well that is REALLY late. Most people take it in the morning, at 10am or so, to spend the whole day tripping. You will be severely jetlagged for a few days because your mind will not want to go to sleep for 24 hours. In my opinion this is very unhealthy - your body will be tired, but your brain will not be.
- try to get someone to trip with you. Maybe even your friend - honestly, it's harmless. A lot of sites and whatnot make acid out to be a bigger deal than it really is. I just think that it'd be a bit embarrassing to trip with a sober person. At 1 hit, you're trying to have fun, not "gain wisdom" from it.
- I wouldn't stay at home especially with your parents around.. it's going to last 10-12 hours! You can go places! My friends tell me that if they stay in the same environment for a long time, they stop tripping for some reason. Then, when they get into a new environment, they trip again. If you looked at the graph on Erowid, the first 8 hrs are "bumpy", so try to keep yourself environmentally stimulated. You can still walk/bike on acid.
As for taking 5 hits, let's just say that you'll understand when you take the acid. Now hurry up and take it so we can read your experience!!!
Edited by Cyrone (10/09/07 09:14 PM)
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Cyrone]
#7503263 - 10/09/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cyrone.. I cant agree ith all your statements..
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Cyrone]
#7503275 - 10/09/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cyrone said: 140 is definitely perfect since you're so well-prepared. In my opinion, you don't really need to keep it under your tongue for more than 20 minutes tops... but it's a tiny piece of paper it doesn't really annoy you. As for the environment, feel free to be somewhere exciting like a busy street or something. I've only done acid once but hitting up cafes with my friends was some of the funnest memories I've had. Keep in mind that while you can act sober, for the first 3-4 hrs you will have bouts of laughing uncontrollably, so stay away from large groups of people if you feel you'll have that case while coming up. Some other small tips:
- see the best places to "trip" as in see walls moving, make sure you're in a place with patterned walls, tiles, ceilings and whatnot. Because, after about 8 hours, it won't be as "crazy", so the only thing left to do is simply watch objects morph and swirl. I've found that bathrooms are a sweet place to do this since they usually have cool patterns.
- if you're taking it at 6pm (!), well that is REALLY late. Most people take it in the morning, at 10am or so, to spend the whole day tripping. You will be severely jetlagged for a few days because your mind will not want to go to sleep for 24 hours. In my opinion this is very unhealthy - your body will be tired, but your brain will not be.
- try to get someone to trip with you. Maybe even your friend - honestly, it's harmless. A lot of sites and whatnot make acid out to be a bigger deal than it really is. I just think that it'd be a bit embarrassing to trip with a sober person. At 1 hit, you're trying to have fun, not "gain wisdom" from it.
- I wouldn't stay at home especially with your parents around.. it's going to last 10-12 hours! You can go places! My friends tell me that if they stay in the same environment for a long time, they stop tripping for some reason. Then, when they get into a new environment, they trip again. If you looked at the graph on Erowid, the first 8 hrs are "bumpy", so try to keep yourself environmentally stimulated. You can still walk/bike on acid.
As for taking 5 hits, let's just say that you'll understand when you take the acid. Now hurry up and take it so we can read your experience!!!
Thanks bro, this is a lot of good advice. I will def take it into consideration. How will the visuals be off of 140 mic? I am certainly not taking acid just to see visuals but I am just curious as to how it is going to be. I got the cid today so I should be tripping this weekend. I'll post some pics, it's alex grey stuff! This is what the sheet looks like.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7503352 - 10/09/07 10:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jair said: Thanks bro, this is a lot of good advice. I will def take it into consideration. How will the visuals be off of 140 mic? I am certainly not taking acid just to see visuals but I am just curious as to how it is going to be.
I've only done acid once but the visuals were exactly what I thought they'd be - but not as crazy as I thought. When you're outside looking down the street, you won't hallucinate at all. But when you look at smaller objects, like chair legs, drapes, garbage cans; they're start bending or drifting apart - it's hilarious. People's faces are also hilarious; they're not melting or anything, but on acid you find the humor in it all (like a charicature?). Like I said you can still act sober, as in buy some chips from a store without anyone knowing you're on acid.
And uh nice backup you got there Slimz.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: TheEric]
#7503593 - 10/09/07 11:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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For most, interacting with people does not seem to be a problem unless they are at the peak. You can seem completely normal, but forcing yourself does not feel good and something that I would not recommend doing for long periods of time. You will know what you are comfortable with. Trust your instincts and have fun.
I think your plan of not smoking the first time is a good one. Alternatively, you could just wait until the effects subside and smoke. It should send you soaring again.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Littleman]
#7504185 - 10/10/07 04:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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its EASY to loose stuff when tripping.. empty your pockets ahead of time
lol, i always find my pokets accmulate random shit throughout the trip. one time in the morning after a barn rave ive emptied them to find stuff like a piece of green string, a small plastic penguin and several lighters.
Little plastic penguins sure do seem to get around.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Slimz]
#7512622 - 10/13/07 04:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I ate some acid earlier!! I'm about2 h ours in and im kinda confused. t his keeyboard is lik eee leeching me.
Anyway I got a friend here, don't flame me please, im gsure ill regeret thiss post later on.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7512960 - 10/13/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cool. Good vibes to ya.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7513480 - 10/13/07 08:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jair said: Oh yes I forgot to mention that the source is very good and I am almost 100% sure that the 140 guess is correct. So answer all of these question based on the fact that it is 140 mics and try not to let the idea that it could be bunk cross your mind.
I hate to say it but it probobly is not 140 mics. I don't think anyone measure micrograms exactly and the typical hit is 50-100ug. That said if 140 means it is strong enough not to be weak then it will be a good time. I find 100-150mics to be pretty easy to handle. It's sort of dreamy, but your consciousness is kind of like normal with much more input and some modest visuals.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Divided_Sky]
#7513485 - 10/13/07 08:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh, should have read to the end. Hope you are having a good time.:D
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7514138 - 10/13/07 11:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jair said: They were talking about taking like 5+ hits. That seems pretty intense, not to mention pretty damn expensive.
dude LSD's been around for a long time. if you realy wanna know about it look up Albert Hoffman the guy who made it... or go deeper and look up Timothy Leary one of the pioneers of acid. there have been people who have taken like 100 or 1,000 hits, hell ionno maybe more. you cant OD from it. you just may not come back the same or alive from 100 hits lol. just take that hit and enjoy yourself. dont overplan your gonna have fun
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Ragus]
#7531193 - 10/18/07 01:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hello everyone. Now for a follow up post. I'm thinking I'm going to write out a detailed trip report on my first experience with LSD sometime but in the meantime I'm just going to write down my thoughts, although this might end up turning into a trip report.
For those of you that haven't kept up with this thread and don't feel like going back and reading this entire thing, I just tried about 150 micrograms of acid for my first time last weekend. All of these posts are basically just me asking questions.
I travelled to my friends house at about 4 p.m. I dosed the blotter tab at about 4:15. I was kinda worried because many people often say that it tastes "metallic" but I only tasted paper. This got me thinking all sorts of stuff like "I probably got ripped off" or "nothing is going to happen". Boy was I wrong. At about 4:45 I could tell something was going to happen. I couldn't really sense what exactly was going on but I knew something was different. The come up seemed very familiar. Almost like I had smoked some of the best weed in the world and I couldn't control my laughter. Everything seemed to fill my heart with joy and laughter, my sitter(who doesn't have any experience with LSD at all), began to think that this trip was going to be a lot like alcohol or marijuana. I had my doubts but early on I couldn't help but notice a few similarities to some great bud. Later on I told myself that this come up was basically the LSD giving me a small dose of what I'm reall in for.
My friend told me that we needed to get some drinks and grab a bite to eat at McDondalds. I told him that we should probably go now, during the come up, that way I'm not completely out of it when we go later. We went and did our stuff. The trip into town which is normally about 15 minutes seemed to be about 2 minutes long. I was constantly staring out the window looking at the trees and the vehicles that drove by seemed so remote and alien, almost like they were out of place on the world.
I noticed interesting things on the Kroger and McDonalds receipts. The logos were "morphing" and sort of moving around in ways that are hard to describe. I really don't remember the ride home. I'm pretty sure that when we arrived I got on here and made that one post in this thread. At this time I was very excited and everything was hilarious. I didn't really expect this from LSD, although I was still extremely happy and not the least bit disappointed. The next couple of hour or so is kinda iffy and I can't exactly remember what was going on. When we walked outside, however, the trip truely started.
My mind all of a sudden reached this time that I just knew was no longer the come up. I seemed to be whole and no longer just laughed at anything. It was as if my mind reached a state of being that I had always hoped it could be in. I layed in the bed of my truck staring at the night sky for what seemed like an eternity (probably only about 30 minutes though). I got lost in the infinite. Thoughts flew clearly in my head, the outer limits of space seemed to be flowing to the areas of the sky I was so interested in. It was beautiful. When I smoke weed I always seem to have some sort of "paranoia" about me when I see a car at night or hear an unknown noise. Quite the opposite played effect when I was on LSD. Everything was so interesting, my curiousity was stretched to limits I have never before experienced and I just wanted to check everything out, I had no fear. I met a cat down the road from my friends house and sat in a yard petting it and enjoying its company for about an hour. My friend began having "deep" talks with me and told me that I seemed much more aware and smart. He told me that I opened his eyes to things he never before thought of or imagined.
Visuals were nice yet not as intense as I thought they were going to be, this wasn't a let down at all though. If I sat and stared at something "strange things" occured. It was as if my mind was trying to make it move and it started to do this but my eyes were like "wait, this isn't supposed to happen" and tried to fix it. The ceiling of the room I was in was constantly pulsating which was amazing. Little stone animals that were in his yard seemed like they wanted to say something to me, I think that my mind even perceived them making little noises.
When I went back into his house I couldn't decide on anything to do. I was listening to a bunch of great music but I couldn't settle on an album or song or anything. I watched Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (the original) and I saw so much symbolism, and hidden meanings in the movie that were never apparent to me until I saw it on acid. I highly recommend this movie to anyone that is tripping. I couldn't focus too well though and I ended up turning it off. By this time it was about 2 a.m. and the come down began. Slight anxiety began to hit me here. I thought about my girlfriend and how much I missed her, I thought about my own house and how much I wanted to be back, and I thought about how early I had got up that morning and how late it was getting to be and I wasn't anywhere near tired.
Anyhow the trip ended and I got about 3 or 4 hours of sleep. I was very refreshed the next day, but I ended up crashing that evening and sleeping as much as I could.
In Conclusion Acid was amazing. I enjoyed it a ton. I have never experienced a more uplifting, euphoric, cleansing, philosophical time in my life. The visuals were moderate, however they somehow fit with my mind and what was going on. Surprisingly I had a nice body high too; I have a bad back and all the pain was gone, it seemed a lot like some pain pills I often take. I will definitely do it again, I will definitely try it alone, and I will definitely try a higher dose sometime.
Sorry this ended up being so long and I appologize for any grammatical errors or anything that doesn't make sense. I hope that at least someone takes the time to read it all.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7531301 - 10/18/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good report jair and I'm glad to see you had a great time. 
And yeah... Willy Wonka is definitely all tripping material.
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I enjoyed the trip report, sounds like you had a lot of fun.
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Thanks man.
Oh and to Slimz if you ever read this- I definitely experienced what you called "Ker-plunk". I basically knew exactly when I took the fall into the deep, the time between the come up and come down is very prominent and easy to distinguish. My mind seriously felt like it was going "ker-plunk".
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7531551 - 10/18/07 02:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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ROCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Slimz]
#7531621 - 10/18/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think I am going to double the dose next time to see how different it is. It'll probably be anywhere in the range of 280-350 mics.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7532055 - 10/18/07 04:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice man, I envy you... hopefully I can find some lucy... good stuff
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: andrewss]
#7532067 - 10/18/07 04:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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andrewss said: ... hopefully I can find some lucy...
Just about three weeks ago I was saying the same thing, then all of a sudden it came to me. It was very strange, almost like it was meant to be... Whatever though, I don't believe in fate, predestination, or "everything happens for a reason", I must have just met the right person at the right time.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7532485 - 10/18/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good thread, I read it all. Sounds like you had a great time with your first trip, glad to hear that. I could especially identify with your description of feeling 'whole' once you had peaked and were plateauing from there. It's as if everything has reached equilibrium...
You seem like a good guy, I hope your psychedelic adventures treat you well. 
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Jair said: I think I am going to double the dose next time to see how different it is. It'll probably be anywhere in the range of 280-350 mics.
I'm going to have to disagree. They are most likely 100mcg tabs. I know people tell of high dosages on blotter, but honestly, I think that the truth is that most people underestimate the power of a real, solid 100mcg dose. Like people who have been getting 70mcg tabs are told it's 100, this goes on for a while and then they get a REAL 100mcg tab. So they think it's some crazy amount..
280-350 micrograms is a completely full blown dose, the most I have ever taken is about 300mcg give or take, and it is POWERFUL beyond belief. It's a lot more than double the effects you described. With 300mcg I had some difficulty even seeing, just because of all the visuals. It's fucking crazy.
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I see, well I will still double my dose, even though the dosage amount is somewhat unknown. I have talked to a few people though that say the Alex Grey stuff is very potent and some of the best they have ever had.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7533109 - 10/18/07 08:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sweet! Nice to see you came back with a report I was gettin a little worried there. I knew you'd have an awesome time and I myself thought that you'd trip harder on 140, but it seemed like you handled it extremely well. This is what I meant when I said you could go out in public - though again the laughing would have gotten in the way somewhat. Tripping lightly does make you want to do more, more of it next time, definitely eliminates the fear of it since they're always EUPHORIC and never a BAD TRIP. Thats the beauty of acid. Now you understand why taking 5 hits doesn't seem like *such* a bad idea to people.
What did your sitter think of it, BTW?
EDIT: Wooooo 50th post! Now I can rate!
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Cyrone]
#7533316 - 10/18/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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What did your sitter think of it, BTW?
Not asked often enough here.
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Jair]
#7533755 - 10/19/07 12:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jair said: I see, well I will still double my dose, even though the dosage amount is somewhat unknown. I have talked to a few people though that say the Alex Grey stuff is very potent and some of the best they have ever had.
No doubt, it was easily the most potent I've ever had... I hope to get some soon!
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Re: Aiding a First Timer [Re: Cyrone]
#7537451 - 10/19/07 09:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cyrone said: What did your sitter think of it, BTW?
Well he said that he enjoyed the time we had together. He said that he really wants to give it a shot too and the least I can do is be his sitter and let him have a hit. I told him that it's nothing like alcohol or marijuana and he is going to start doing research. As far as my trip though, he said that it was very amusing and he said that he had the most meaning and deep conversations of his life with me.
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