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AtomicShroom98
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Desperate! In need of help
#7483942 - 10/04/07 07:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ive been stuck in the fruiting process now for 2 weeks and I still see no pins. Its my first grow and im using the mycogarden. I have my bucket sitting right in front of my window and its sitting in the indirect sunlight. Is it not getting enough light? Ive heard that mushrooms only need enough light to read a book by, which it has that much light. I feel like Ive done everything right, thats why Im confused of why I still see nothing. I dunked it for 24 hours too. What should I do? Should I give up and make tea out of the mycelium or Is there anyway I can try and save it somehow? The only thing I havent been doing is, I havent been misting it at all. I didnt think it needed to be or am I wrong? Please, somebody help me.
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ive never used the mycogarden but if its not keeping humidity i'd try to send it back, all you need for humidity is a 4$ bag of perlite and a big plastic tub lol. could be contaminated, does it smell shroomy or does it smell bad? and is it any color other than white?
also im assuming this is a bulk casing, what all did u try to grow em off of?
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AtomicShroom98
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Yea, I smelled in there and it definitely smells like shrooms. Yet there is nothing. I have the humidity at 82 degrees. No, its all white, theres no contams. Well they came in these sterilized containers and Im growing them with the stuff they gave me when I ordered the damn mycogarden. the shit is a hard, brown stone type of medium. IT almost looks like volcanic rock, if that at all makes any sense?
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do not make mycelium tea, for 1 its disgusting, 2 it doesnt work for undeveloped mycelium anyway, mycelium tea is really only possible from mature myc that has went through several flushs.
Anyway no myc tea at all!!!!
I have just checked up on this. And u really shouldnt have to do anything really.
Its supposed to provide the proper humidity along with fresh air, all u need to do is put in the light which u have done.
U dont need to mist since its supposed to keep humidity up, get a hygrometer and check that the humidity is indeed at least in the low 90's.
It could possibly be a lazy strain of myc?? but i dont have enough experience or enough information on ur methods to suggest this is thee case.
2 weeks is a bit long to not see pins, i seen pins on 1 of my cakes 5 days after dunking. I have no idea what my humidity is (using perlite method) but i have been fanning 6 times a day and misting.
do u have the airstone thing set up and the hydroton damp ??
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Re: Desperate! In need of help [Re: veda_sticks]
#7483986 - 10/04/07 08:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, the air thing they gave me is set up. Though, the hydroton, volcanic rock looking shit, yea the last time i put water on that was when I initially started the fruiting process two weeks ago now. So do you think I should put more water on that then?
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Re: Desperate! In need of help [Re: veda_sticks]
#7483988 - 10/04/07 08:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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82% humidity isnt bad but you should somehow try to raise it to 95% or more. make sure you're allowing fresh air exchange at least 3 times a day. you could try using a lightbulb to initiate pinning then cover with a blanket for the 12 hours of darkness. a pic would help alot
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Re: Desperate! In need of help *DELETED* [Re: ButterWeasels]
#7483991 - 10/04/07 08:03 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Post deleted by ButterWeaselsReason for deletion: didn't know H202 was just for cobweb.
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AtomicShroom98
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UHh?! I thought the air purifier that they give is supposed to provide the fresh air flow? I havent opened the damn thing up since I started to try and fruit it which started two weeks ago.
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Don't use peroxide, period.
Raise the humidity to 95+, re-dunk the cakes, and them mist two or three times per day at least. Cakes won't pin at less humidity than that. Keep them in bright, indirect light since that's perfect. You read disinformation when you read they only need enough light to read by. RR
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damb rr just posted and thought of something i didnt so now my post is defuct!!
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Edited by veda_sticks (10/04/07 08:13 AM)
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Re: Desperate! In need of help [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7484015 - 10/04/07 08:16 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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this is gonna sound dumb probably but what do you mean when you say," dont use peroxide, period"? You know, Im not even sure if they gave me anything to raise the humidity. I got a temp gauge, air purifier. So should I not use the window for the light then?
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AtomicShroom98
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And I thought i didnt have to mist it at all with the mycogarden. Shit, why cant shit just come out smoothly at least once.
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from reading the mycogarden instructions it should keep humidity up, but its possible that it might not always be able to do it. Maybe the humidity outside is too low for it to be effective???
from another post
"Cobweb only forms in still, stale air. If you give plenty of air exchange, you won't ever see it. RR"
from what i have read, h202 can be used to fight of cobweb. But if u take steps to prevent it (fresh air) then u shouldnt have it, hence not really needing it.
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Re: Desperate! In need of help [Re: veda_sticks]
#7484043 - 10/04/07 08:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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No, the humidity outside of the bucket is fine. What do cob webs look like and will they effect the growth of the mushrooms? I've never heard of them before. And can anybody tell my why the inside smells like mushrooms?
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http://www.shroomery.org/images/23418/cobweb1.jpg
thats what cobweb looks like, really stringy and fuzzy
well it smells like mushrooms cause ur growing mushrooms. The mycelium smells mushroomy and is a good sign that u have grown mushroom myc and not a contaminant.
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Edited by veda_sticks (10/04/07 08:35 AM)
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just calm down bro, be patient, everything will work out, read around, you have as many posts as me so I'm sure you know this by now. Get a hydrometer to be sure. FAE, RH, and some light, don't let it get over 90 or it could contam, (my last batch did that, got Verticillium) anyway, trial and error. And read
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Re: Desperate! In need of help [Re: veda_sticks]
#7484067 - 10/04/07 08:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Definitely doesnt have cobwebs. So you guys think I should start to mist it two to three times a day while giving it some fresh air two to three times a day also then right? See Im confused because I thought the mycogarden was supposed to do all that for me, but i guess not.
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AtomicShroom98
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Where can I get a hydrometer and how much will it cost me? O and thanks for all your guys is help, im just getting impatient as fuck, I dont want my 120 dollar investment to become a total waste of money, considering i could of constructed something for a lot cheaper and got something that would probably work a lot better than the damn mycogarden.
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You can get extremely cheap hydrometers in a pet store. The kind for reptile tanks. Usually for 1-3 dollars, but I wouldn't trust them. I picked mine up at Walmart for 12 bucks and its a nice battery powered iPod sized unit with a temp. probe on a 6 ft wire for outside temp and inside temp/humidity. Works great for long periods inside my FC. Only reads up to 90% but reads HI after that. And it reads up to 90 in 1% increments (unless it's rising/falling really fast) and seems to be accurate. Hydrometers are notoriously inaccurate, so you're really better buying a decent one.
I would also try to email the company that made your setup with any problems. I'm sure they've heard them all a bunch of times. Maybe you got a rare defective unit and they'll send you a new one with a refund for the hassle or something. Best of luck to you, I'm sure things will turn out great. Don't give up.
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Like I said you would've been better off making your own chamber out of a big plastic bin and some wet perlite. I'm gunna say spend $20 or less and get a plastic tub at wal-mart and some perlite at the garden store, and just make your own terrarium if your growing cakes so you'll have more room and higher humidity.
Mainly just read alot about everything you'll constantly keep getting better with knowledge and (especially) experience.
And yea no H202, I guess I am paranoid of contamination because of my last grow that was sabotaged by a dude who used to be my friend. He put bread mold on roughly half my cakes lol, fun coming home from work and seeing contamination (and getting itchy from it being in the air).
But yea when in doubt, take RR's advice.
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