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Pieds Bleus?
    #7482555 - 10/03/07 08:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Here's the photo gallery of a french mushroom farm. I really enjoyed flipping through all the different pictures!
http://www.le-champignon.com/Lacavechampignonnière/Galeriedephotos/tabid/1057/Default.aspx

I wanted to discuss the mushrooms they are calling "pieds bleus" are these Lepista nuda?

Also I like the way they are growing so simply. The huge stacked oyster blocks seem pretty darn cool too...
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Re: Pieds Bleus? [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
    #7482657 - 10/03/07 08:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

uhh, the hyper link didn't translate correctly, I guess just copy/paste into your browser. For what it's worth, I think it was worth my time to check it out. I'd love to have beds like those going...


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Re: Pieds Bleus? [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
    #7482888 - 10/03/07 09:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Great link.

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Re: Pieds Bleus? [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #7483688 - 10/04/07 03:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Pieds Bleus? [Re: greys]
    #7483974 - 10/04/07 07:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Pied bleu I think translates as blue foot or blue leg or something like that.
I think it is the french name for Lepista nuda or L.saeva.
Well that's according to some books I've read anyway.


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Re: Pieds Bleus? [Re: speedy]
    #7484074 - 10/04/07 08:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.theproducehunter.com/productdisplay.asp?ID=2143


damnit , i think youre right-they are L. nudas


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Re: Pieds Bleus? [Re: greys]
    #7484336 - 10/04/07 10:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well wow, okay sweet, I've never seen them grown indoors like that before. What do y'all think they're doing in there? What's the substrate, temps?

Wish I had a cave here in Florida, I'd be chillin!


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Re: Pieds Bleus? [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
    #7484387 - 10/04/07 10:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Probably just a bit warmer than their buttons, the only heat comes from those fluorescents. As far as technique, all I can see is that they case the bed.


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Re: Pieds Bleus? [Re: YidakiMan]
    #7484468 - 10/04/07 11:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

That makes sense, probably a very constant 55F down there or so...

Well the beds look pretty simple. I like that! Yeah the substrate below was guard for me to see as well. I'd ask 'em but I don't speak French. Anyone here speak french (or at east type it)?

Anyone know of other commercial lepista nuda growing operations?


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Re: Pieds Bleus? [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
    #7484550 - 10/04/07 11:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I was doing a Google image search to see if I could find any other pictures of a commercial growing operation with Lepista. I'm only 5 pages in and haven't found any yet (also searched for pied bleus, nothing there either), but I did find this way cool picture




Edited because I cannot spell :blush:


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Re: Pieds Bleus? [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
    #7485149 - 10/04/07 02:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I can't find any American farms, but Penn State has cultures from the French farm and from a Chinese farm. According to produce hunter, they ship them airfreight from France. There is definitely a demand here, I wonder how it would react to a local supply.

Very often I think of specialty mushroom growers as the Bill Gates and Steve Jobs of Agriculture, the next Eli Whitney or George Washington Carver will be a mushroom grower. When Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were building computers, the market had no idea what it wanted. We're in the same boat here I think, if you put an awesome mushroom in front of a consumer at a reasonable price (fuck $22/lb retail, try $8/retail) they're gonna wanna buy it. Right now, in the fresh foods business, the market knows it wants something healthy that tastes good, but that's it, the ideal of healthy and tasty is shapeless. Just watch TV, commercials about how healthy eggs, tomatoes, etc are. If tasty and healthy doesn't scream mushrooms I don't know what does.


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Re: Pieds Bleus? [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
    #7485309 - 10/04/07 02:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Whole foods sells them, they are Lepista Nuda, but they sell them as, Blue foots. The ones they sell the stems retain their purplish blue coloring longer than the caps, most often just the stems are purple and the caps are sort of tannish.

GeorgeM and, I think, PinheadX, posted some pictures of Lepista nuda fruiting this spring in the Kansas and Texas, the weather was really wet there this spring. So the trigger for fruiting is probably not that dependent on light, so much as it is tempature and humidity.

GeorgeM's spring blewits and PinheadX's spring blewits


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Re: Pieds Bleus? [Re: falcon]
    #7485506 - 10/04/07 04:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Which whole foods location?


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Re: Pieds Bleus? [Re: YidakiMan]
    #7485885 - 10/04/07 06:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Honestly Whole Foods in Boca Raton Florida, right next to Florida Atlantic University was like mushroom heaven when I found it the other night. I honestly have never EVER seen the selection available in front of me in Florida. They had all the staples plus chanterelles, porcini, lobster mushroom (what's the Latin on that one?), eryngii, maiitake, beech, morels (I believe they are the indoor morels from DNP in Michigan, as that was listed as the source state), and some others. It was amazing.

Most of them were close to $30/lb. but they were marked in different ways so that the consumer wouldn't notice. Some were priced by the pound, some by 1/4 pound. Regular old oysters were $9/lb. and the quality was so-so, but much better than I usually see.

I agree with Yidaki that the market is waiting to be developed for these specialty mushrooms. Obviously, if people are willing to air freight these things halfway across the world from France to the US...


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Re: Pieds Bleus? [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
    #7486961 - 10/04/07 11:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Jeremy, there is some Lepista nuda links at my website's link collection.
(anyone can share their mushroom links there.)

the picture there is from my garden. those blewits are wild.
(though they are growing partly on old newspapers.. )


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Re: Pieds Bleus? [Re: Speeker]
    #7487453 - 10/05/07 06:16 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

blewits are a favorite of mine...i find alot every fall.
heres a shot of a few of last years blewit finds.






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Re: Pieds Bleus? [Re: falcon]
    #19228230 - 12/04/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The French refer to both Wood and Field blewits (Lepista/Clitocybe nuda and saeva/personata) as Pied Bleu - although these may be nuda they have many characteristics of saeva.


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