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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: Misanthrope]
    #7486475 - 10/04/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think we might change his nick name from JC (Jesus Christ) to Shaman.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: clemens]
    #7486542 - 10/04/07 09:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

must say i can understand what lured him. it's like reading about salvia or dmt. you just can't begin to comprehend it by just reading it, you have to have experienced it to understand. Although i think i'll stay away from datura, i'm curious, but not curious enough for that.

glad to hear he's ok anyway and that you handled it well


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: SapphireCat]
    #7486573 - 10/04/07 09:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Same here. I've done my share of dmt and salvia along with many other things but there are plenty of substances for which the thing called curiosity just isn't strong enough for for me. Datura is among the top of those.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7486685 - 10/04/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i would be curious about an extreemly low dose and what that might be like.

lets say this guy he's talking about in here took 10 leaves in a tea, id like to know what 1 leaf, or even half a leaf would be like


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7486725 - 10/04/07 10:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I would like to try smoking a very very small amount of datura with some bud. Maybe enough to be slightly incoherent and out of it, but enough to keep my sanity and be able to remember that I had taken datura.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7486729 - 10/04/07 10:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If what I remember is correct the potency is to various to go by weight in plant material. It would seem wiser to consider isolating alkaloids than playing around with whole plant material if you really truly simply must experiment with it imo. Not that I would know.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #7486834 - 10/04/07 11:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

datura might be an ingredient in acapulco gold

(you either do or do not have any clue what i am refering to)


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: AnotherDimension]
    #7487416 - 10/05/07 05:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It might just be safer to do Diphenhydramine or Dimenhydrinate, because at least you're getting a specified dose...


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7487484 - 10/05/07 06:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i've tried large doses of each of those and if that's what datura is really like then i dont want to have anything to do with it. my experiences with diphenhydramine and diphenhydrinate were some of the scariest i've ever had. i wouldnt even call them trips i was just completely delerious, out of my mind


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: opensaysme]
    #7487495 - 10/05/07 06:44 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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i've tried large doses of each of those and if that's what datura is really like then i dont want to have anything to do with it.




lol no one should want to have anything to do with datura from what i've read. But the ideaa of a deleriant....idk if i ever do it i would have someone film the experience though, so i could look over it sober and compare what was really happening to what was happening in my head.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: SapphireCat]
    #7487615 - 10/05/07 08:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If you have any memories from the experience.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: clemens]
    #7489943 - 10/05/07 08:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Give him three grams of vitamin C three times a day, each time accompanied by a glass of water. What you want to achieve is acidic urine, which will help pull the tropanes from his body.

Run at least a liter of milk or yoghurt through him each day. He will want soggy food, porridge, custard, that kind of stuff, because of cottonmouth.

Don't let him drive or even walk the streets this second day.

NO DRUGS, especially not weed. Weed intensifies tropanes but also makes them harder on the heart which still can be dangerous.

Let him rest a lot and avoid exercise to ease the load on his heart.


Of the dietary measures, the 3x 3 gram vitamin C is most important. Places that sell vitamins often have tabs of 1000 mg. Three at a time, three times a day, for five days.

The Datura will directly affect him for about a week, and then a month of recovery after that. If he takes psychedelics in that month, he is at serious risk for HPPD.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: Asante]
    #7490132 - 10/05/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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For those above who are curious about low dose datura, it's not so easy to dose for that. I'm getting the impression that the median state between no effects and full on delium is very small at best. I have been experimenting with low dose datura these last few months without any perceivable effects. I have tried up to 15 seeds in a tea, and up to about 30% of a dried leaf smoked with cannabis along with 2.5g's of oral cubensis. It's okay, I'm trying to build a relationship with the plant for when I do, if ever, take a few lessons from her. Actually, I just got back from a walk where i visited a few stramonium plants. Of course I nibbled a small bit of raw leaf as I always do when I visit. I love the smell and taste.

The advice previously given is quite helpful and it's good to know quick, reliable help can be given through a message forum such as this. My previous paragraph may seem like an invitation to try datura, however i strongly reccomend against this. There are very few people I know who are able to properly utilize the psychedelic and dissociative experience, much less that of datura. As for my seeming hypocrisy, I can do no better than to merely say you would have to understand my life mission to reconcile my explorations. Stay away, she is known to bite.
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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: lavod]
    #7494517 - 10/07/07 01:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

So... a fews days later he said he wish he never did it. Weird because once he came out of the trip he was saying he was somewhat glad he had tried it but now he thinks its a stupid idea.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: clemens]
    #7494544 - 10/07/07 02:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

tell him i said he's a tweeker


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7495357 - 10/07/07 05:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Perhaps the unreality of it all is just finally settling in on him.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: clemens]
    #7495416 - 10/07/07 05:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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clemens said:
So... a fews days later he said he wish he never did it. Weird because once he came out of the trip he was saying he was somewhat glad he had tried it but now he thinks its a stupid idea.




He thought he was "hardcore".

Apparently he learned otherwise.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7495621 - 10/07/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well are not all hallucinogens a picture of a abstract or unreality experiences? Surly breathing walls and morphing objects don't exist and are irrelevant to our lives, they are just part of the drugs effects.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: SapphireCat]
    #7495655 - 10/07/07 06:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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must say i can understand what lured him. it's like reading about salvia or dmt. you just can't begin to comprehend it by just reading it, you have to have experienced it to understand. Although i think i'll stay away from datura, i'm curious, but not curious enough for that.

glad to hear he's ok anyway and that you handled it well




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