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Datura, need help fast
    #7482404 - 10/03/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I have a friend tripping on datura at the moment, 3 hrs into the trip and he made a tea with "a bunch of leaves". He is out of his mind in a full blown datura trip. He is under my watch but what could I do to bring him down? I have no downers except beer.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: clemens]
    #7482411 - 10/03/07 07:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

he's gunna get w/e is coming to him, and he deserves it for just "taking a bunch of leaves"

i hope he doesn't die because thats gunna look bad for you


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7482424 - 10/03/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If he really dies I'll be your witness and say you contacted people for help and that you did not administer the poison.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: clemens]
    #7482426 - 10/03/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

he's fucked. you might wanna convince him to tie himself to something
...something that you can only get him out of. (like the house for example) if you don't know how much he took, he could be tripping for days or possibly be overdosing. why the FUCK would someone take something they knew nothing about? talk to him calmly, and help him keep his head on straight. most of all, help him enjoy the ride.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: clemens]
    #7482437 - 10/03/07 07:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

BENZOS


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7482440 - 10/03/07 07:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well believe it or not, he knows a lot about Datura. Very experienced guy, LSD, DMT, Shrooms you name it hes done it and he respects it. I know he is aware how toxic datura is and all the negative effects.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: clemens]
    #7482447 - 10/03/07 07:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If he dies PM me, I know lots of neat ways to dispose of bodies


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: clemens]
    #7482453 - 10/03/07 07:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well..what do you need help with? wtf??? :p


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: Cerius]
    #7482454 - 10/03/07 07:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Cerius said:
why the FUCK would someone take something they knew nothing about?




Probably an automatic response like jumping off a bridge.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: clemens]
    #7482457 - 10/03/07 07:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If you are worried and he is your friend, you may want to get him to the emergency room.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: clemens]
    #7482458 - 10/03/07 07:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I do have Marijuana, would this help? I am not really worried about him hurting himself because im watching him... but how easy is it to dehydrate from datura? I gave him some water and he takes little sips then sets it down and seems to forget its there.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: Cerius]
    #7482462 - 10/03/07 08:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Datura is tough with getting people out of a bad trip because most of the time you cant even reach them. If they do respond to you, dont try to take them out of the "zone" they're in because that will probably be impossible. Rather, try to make them comfortable with the things they are experience and its important for YOU as the sitter to be very calm. If he is in any contact with his actual surroundings you can help by assuring him that everything is OK with you and that the reason things seem weird to him is that he ingested datura. Sometimes theres just nothing to help but time, i really hope it works out alright. Try to keep him hydrated and away from the general public and hopefully things will be ok. If things get truly out of hand and he needs medical attention, do the right thing and take him to a hospital. If you can't be associated with the incident at least drop him off at the place with a note on him saying DATURA and bounce.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: clemens]
    #7482469 - 10/03/07 08:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

FUCK MourningDove's advice. My friends flipped out on MY mushroom trip and I was absolutely fucking fine. Nonetheless, they stuffed me in a hospital costing me 10 fucking grand, luckily I had insurance. Don't give him pot either, it'll just make the trip stronger. Just give him new things to do..and if you're worried about dehydration, get new cups..then he'll have LOTS of cups. :smile:


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: opensaysme]
    #7482483 - 10/03/07 08:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

rofl
I tried datura years back and can relate to what he is going through, trying to make him comfortable.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: Cerius]
    #7482499 - 10/03/07 08:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

FUCK MourningDove's advice. My friends flipped out on MY mushroom trip and I was absolutely fucking fine. Nonetheless, the stuffed me in a hospital costing me 10 fucking grand, luckily I had insurance.




Shrooms are not deadly. Datura is. Big fucking difference right there.

If you are not going to take him to the hospital because you know he hasn't had too much then you may want to get you some amphetamine for your self because you are in for a long ride taking care of him.

Don't give him weed or anything. Do make sure he drinks enough water no matter how much you have to remind him.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: clemens]
    #7482511 - 10/03/07 08:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Don't try to explain complicated (read: any) things to him. He is in his own little world now and most times if you try to interfere it's just going to throw him off.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: Cerius]
    #7482512 - 10/03/07 08:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Are you serious Cerius? Mushrooms are non toxic, datura is highly toxic; two completely different situations. Your friends may have made a stupid decision because they dont understand, but they were doing it for your own good. Clemens, if he's acting insane dont worry, as long as hes not hurting himself or others, but if he seems like he's physically in duress then don't fuck around and get help.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: Cerius]
    #7482548 - 10/03/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah unless he is in physical danger you shouldn't need a hospital, but from what I know of datura that isn't completely out of the question...

if you do end up there do not just drop him and bounce, your not on anything so you can't get in trouble and people you know are gonna find out any way if he's your friend and it would look much better if you didn't just dump him on the ground in front of a hospital and drive off, besides there are a lot of cops at hospitals and the chances of that working don't seem incredibly good to me, plus its a stupid idea.


Cerius, datura is definitely not mushrooms and could actually result in physical harm from the poison. Plus from every trip report I've ever read I wouldn't expect him to be anything that could be considered coherent (locked in a dream world but still maintaining motor function)he may not even be conscious after a while.

If he starts looking real bad, don't be a dick, take him to a hospital, your friends life is worth getting in a little trouble.


That said I doubt he'll have to/hope he doesn't have to go and he makes it through alright. Good luck. if you can, get him to sleep that always seems like it at least keeps him from running around and possibly hurting himself. He may sleep for a long time.

A person on datura might be really creepy...




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TripityDooDaDay your avatar gave me a salvia flashback... thanks? Anyway its cool.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: JstHereFrTheCake]
    #7482577 - 10/03/07 08:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

whoever thought i was comparing the two drugs misinterpreted what i was trying to say. i was speaking of the physical danger he isn't putting toward himself, or others at the moment. if he's not having seizures or trying to stab himself or going into cardiac arrest..jesus, let him be and keep him calm.


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Re: Datura, need help fast [Re: JstHereFrTheCake]
    #7482584 - 10/03/07 08:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think that opensaysme was really suggesting dropping him off in a hospital and leaving him. He is a very close friend of mine, many trips together and I not leave him.


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