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I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it.
    #7481179 - 10/03/07 01:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ook, I'm home alone right now and sick, and I got nothin to do right now. Then I remembered that I had bought Salvia a few days ago. The front of the package says this:

THE STANDARDIZED
SALVIA DIVINORUM
Standardized 10x Extract

4mg STANDARDIZED SALVINORIN-A EXTRACT


Accordin to the back of the product, this contains 0.1 gram of pure "standardized" extract of Salvia Divinorum.

Now, it's only 4mg, not a whole gram, but it's 10x. I don't have a butane lighter, only a regular one. I also do not have a sitter, and it's possible that my mom/sister might come home at any random moment. I've been real eager to try it out, I'm wonderin whether I should attempt to smoke a TEENY bit (like a pinch) from my bong with a regular lighter (dunno if it'll work), or if I should chew it for like 10 minutes. And if I was to chew this 10x extract, how much should I chew, and what should I expect?

Remember people, 4 MILLIGRAMS, and the extract is of 10x strength.


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*cannabis, psilocybe, fly agaric, salvia, LSD, mescaline, AMT, LSA, 5meo-DMT, DMT.
(* = done it)

Sebastian23 on extractin THC from urine:
"I doubt it, and in any way that could be worth extracting trace chemicals from hella urine samples.
Thats like using recycled human shit to feed humans. It's just a bad idea."
LOL!!!


Edited by Killer Sausage (10/03/07 01:59 PM)


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Killer Sausage]
    #7481193 - 10/03/07 02:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

put it in a bong, take a huge rip. Hold it at least 30 seconds, if you can get another in, do it. Hold on.

in about 5-10 min later you be back on earth.

I don't find a need for a sitter with salvia. makes me uncomfortable to have people around.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7481203 - 10/03/07 02:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Only 4mgs?
Are you sure its not 4mgs per gram?
4mgs would be a very tiny pile.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7481235 - 10/03/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

DuNeRaVeR said:
put it in a bong, take a huge rip. Hold it at least 30 seconds, if you can get another in, do it. Hold on.

in about 5-10 min later you be back on earth.

I don't find a need for a sitter with salvia. makes me uncomfortable to have people around.




Hmm, but how much should I put in the bong. All of it? And I heard that regular lighters aren't that effective, so I'm curious as to if this would work or not. Also, I'm thinkin that if I was to do this, I'd be sittin on the floor, take a huge rip, then lie back and let it out. I don't wanna fall down or knock anythin over lol.

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El Zorro said:
Only 4mgs?
Are you sure its not 4mgs per gram?
4mgs would be a very tiny pile.




It's pretty small. It makes a pile no bigger than an American/Canadian quarter.


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*cannabis, psilocybe, fly agaric, salvia, LSD, mescaline, AMT, LSA, 5meo-DMT, DMT.
(* = done it)

Sebastian23 on extractin THC from urine:
"I doubt it, and in any way that could be worth extracting trace chemicals from hella urine samples.
Thats like using recycled human shit to feed humans. It's just a bad idea."
LOL!!!


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Killer Sausage]
    #7481245 - 10/03/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You really dont need much of10x. You dont NEED to use a crack torch, I have always used normal lighters and have been able to achieve a breakthrough.

I would recommend putting it on top of something that is not very harsh smoke.

the longer you hold in your hit the better.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Killer Sausage]
    #7481248 - 10/03/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

sounds like a gram to me.
you figure a microdot lsd pill is 7 milligrams
and thats about the size of a piece of spaghetti cut into a barrel shape


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Killer Sausage]
    #7481277 - 10/03/07 02:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

A "normal" dose for beginners are about 0,3g leaves. Beginners do have
very often a tolerance so you'd better near to your dose step by step.
1g 10x standardized accords to 10g leaves if I remember rightly.

I did salvia 10x without weighing it before (it was too much for the
first time :frown:). So the trip itself wasn't that nice. I decided to never
ever do it again. But the afterglowing was that amazing that I changed
my mind.

This week I ordered 25g leaves, 1g 5x extract, 2g 10x extract and 1g 15x extract :wink:

I think I'm going to collect several experiences :smile:

And remember: salvia divinorum is not a party drug. I wouldn't smoke
it in big accompany (<-- is this word rightly used ^^?) but at least
you'd better have one tripsitter if you start with 10x.

Enjoy the sage :smile:

Edit: Remember that from 0,25mg you can get really affected :smile:
Just listen to the song "Salvia Divinorum" from 1200 Microgramms :laugh:


Edited by psychophobia (10/03/07 03:03 PM)


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: psychophobia]
    #7481423 - 10/03/07 03:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Empty the water from your bong.

Place a pinch of extract in the bowl. About as much as you can smoke in two hits.

Using any lighter you wish, pull the flame through the salvia the entire time you are hitting it. Don't just light it and then draw like you would with weed. Keep the flame in it.

Hold it in as long as you can without passing out or anything.

If you are not feeling something signifigant by the time you exhale the smoke give it another rip otherwise sit it down and hang on.

Actually don't hang on. Relax and enjoy the ride.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7481560 - 10/03/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Deff pack that shit into your bongo and rip it.
Sit back and relax youll be back in this galaxy in 10 min.

Have fun.


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I smoke 2 joints at night,
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I smoke 2 joints before i smoke 2 joints,
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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7481571 - 10/03/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I tried a bit earlier, but I barely felt anythin. Well, I felt sorta different for a moment, and when I looked at the ceiling, it was sorta shiftin and movin a lil, but nothin significant. I think this is because my lighter had a weak flame, and I didn't hold the flame over the extract like how TripityDooDaDay said. I guess I wasted a PINCH, but I still have a lot left. I'll buy a new lighter and try again sometime.

psychophobia: Nice info there, and I have heard that song actually.


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*cannabis, psilocybe, fly agaric, salvia, LSD, mescaline, AMT, LSA, 5meo-DMT, DMT.
(* = done it)

Sebastian23 on extractin THC from urine:
"I doubt it, and in any way that could be worth extracting trace chemicals from hella urine samples.
Thats like using recycled human shit to feed humans. It's just a bad idea."
LOL!!!


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Killer Sausage]
    #7481610 - 10/03/07 04:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You may have to smoke it several times before the breakthrough happens.
Then you'll see the "twist" and then "goodbye"


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: El Zorro]
    #7481678 - 10/03/07 04:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

4mg of salvinorin is not small. It only takes several micrograms to achieve the effects.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Serdal]
    #7481765 - 10/03/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's not 4mg of pure Salvinorin, it's 4mg of 10x extract. 4mg of pure Salvinorin-A would last me a lifetime, hahaha.


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CHECKLIST:
*cannabis, psilocybe, fly agaric, salvia, LSD, mescaline, AMT, LSA, 5meo-DMT, DMT.
(* = done it)

Sebastian23 on extractin THC from urine:
"I doubt it, and in any way that could be worth extracting trace chemicals from hella urine samples.
Thats like using recycled human shit to feed humans. It's just a bad idea."
LOL!!!


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Killer Sausage]
    #7481775 - 10/03/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

put a pinch of it in the pipe
smoke it deep fast and hold
it should work.
I get 50 hits from one gram of 10 x
many people just get 20 hits
some only get 10 from the whole gram.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7483264 - 10/03/07 11:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's not 4mg of 10x

It's 1 gram of 10x "Standardized" to contain 4mg per gram.

4mg is not even enough to smoke.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: El Zorro]
    #7483319 - 10/03/07 11:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

one gram of plain leaf should have 2.5 mg salvinorin
one gram of 10x should have 25 mg of salvinorin.

some strong batches of plain leaf have 4mg salvinorin.
I don't know what to say about this kid's product.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7484088 - 10/04/07 08:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

One gram 10x 25mg of Salvinorin A?
Plain leaves contain averaged 1,5mg/g (so wikipedia says. I do not believe it).

25mg would be enough for ~80 trips... I don't think you can use 10x that often :wink:


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: psychophobia]
    #7484151 - 10/04/07 09:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

1 gram of 10x SHOULD have 25mg of salvinorum.

How would you get 80 trips out of 25mg? It should be enough for around 25 strong trips but YMMV and I would do good to get 10 strong trips or more low doses. No where near 80 though.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7484285 - 10/04/07 10:04 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hrm... as I know ~300 Microgramms is the dose for a average trip.
I'm sorry if I was talking crap :laugh:


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"Please would you tell me," said Alice, a little timidly, for she was not quite sure whether it was good manners for her to speak first, "why your cat grins like that?"
    "It’s a Cheshire-Cat," said the Duchess, "and that’s why. [...]"


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: psychophobia]
    #7485676 - 10/04/07 05:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i do use 300-400 mics per session but I am a soft head
many people need 800-1100 mics
go figure.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7485841 - 10/04/07 06:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

300 to 400 is probably my average now. When I first started with it I did around 1000 every day or so. Sometimes multiple times a day. Now I might do that much at a time once every month or so.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7487051 - 10/05/07 12:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, sure... 300 micros are the mininum dose... but he's just starting
out with salvia so I wanted to recommend ^^


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"Please would you tell me," said Alice, a little timidly, for she was not quite sure whether it was good manners for her to speak first, "why your cat grins like that?"
    "It’s a Cheshire-Cat," said the Duchess, "and that’s why. [...]"


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: psychophobia]
    #7488008 - 10/05/07 10:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Whoa what was I thinking with those guesses at my own usage.

Actually figuring it up instead of guessing, I come to 1/2 to 3/4 mg for my average hit and 3 mg+ for my occasional heavy trip.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7488608 - 10/05/07 02:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Woha :laugh: Can you explain some things?


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    "It’s a Cheshire-Cat," said the Duchess, "and that’s why. [...]"


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: psychophobia]
    #7488939 - 10/05/07 03:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What things?


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Psylo_Subliminal]
    #7489063 - 10/05/07 04:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Psylo_Subliminal said:
Deff pack that shit into your bongo and rip it.
Sit back and relax youll be back in this galaxy in 10 min.

Have fun.




worst advice ever.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: GbBaker]
    #7490924 - 10/06/07 10:07 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

@TripityDooDaDay

Acutally I was on Salvia when I wrote my reply and I really had the opinion that you want to tell me something :laugh: I'm sorry for that.

That also means my order have just arrived :smile: Already had some pleasent low-level-trips... Salvia is nice :smile: By now I still prefer the plain leaves instead of the extracts...


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"Please would you tell me," said Alice, a little timidly, for she was not quite sure whether it was good manners for her to speak first, "why your cat grins like that?"
    "It’s a Cheshire-Cat," said the Duchess, "and that’s why. [...]"


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: psychophobia]
    #7490971 - 10/06/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Acutally I was on Salvia when I wrote my reply and I really had the opinion that you want to tell me something  I'm sorry for that.





Nice :smile:

Enjoy your explorations. Salvia has a lot offer. If the plain leaf gets you where you want to go that's a great thing. Apparently I have a high tolerance. I can only get a strong buzz with the leaf. I couldn't even get that until after my first good break through on high strength extract.

My first salvia order was 15 grams of plain leaf. I smoked a couple of party sized bong loads and got nothing from them. I had read about extracts and knew it was easy enough to do.

A friend and neighbor had some acetone so I didn't even have to go out for that. I reduced the rest of my leaf to a small amount of very strong extract. I have a camper set out by a fire pit in the woods behind my house for hanging out in. I sat out there alone and took two massive bong hits of that very strong extract not really expecting much.

To sum it up, first I melded with matter and very soon matter ceased to exist. Shock, terror and fascination are weak words. A couple of hours later I was still so shaken up that I finally had to lay down and sleep it off. I swore I would never touch the stuff but a super afterglow and the fascination changed my mind. I hit it again the very next night.

I love the stuff. I mostly like low doses now though and get a lot from them. I sort of did things backwards with salvia working my way down instead of up.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7495145 - 10/07/07 04:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

So do I, bro... so do I :laugh:

But I didn't have that strong experiences so far. Today... hm... today
it was quite strange. I don't think that I had halluzinations but my
thaughts were so real that I was able to see them with my "third eye".
It was awesome because I was at the sea on a cliff or something and a
train was passing by... and I don't know how to describe but the train
have brought me joy :laugh: I wasn't really THERE because my sitters were
still present... but I was able to imagine it so good =) (one minute
before I had some laughing flash and called my friend "Hutmann" which
means "hat man"... he just looked like one of those garden gnomes ^^).

Now the week's gonna start and I'll avoid doing drugs :wink: But next
weekend I'll increase the dose maybe when the setting fits...


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"Please would you tell me," said Alice, a little timidly, for she was not quite sure whether it was good manners for her to speak first, "why your cat grins like that?"
    "It’s a Cheshire-Cat," said the Duchess, "and that’s why. [...]"


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: psychophobia]
    #7495177 - 10/07/07 04:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:mad2: salvia doesn't work for me. I've smoked it at least 30 times and havn't even had any visuals yet. I just hear random shit and believe im some british guy who works for Kim Novak.

Eventually im gonna extract pure salvinorum and put it under my tongue. If that doesn't work then idk.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: learningtofly]
    #7495249 - 10/07/07 04:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I have seen the most amazing things on salvia. From rather ordinary visuals bleeding in and out of my actual surroundings to having my actual surroundings completely blown away and replaced. Oddly though I don't get visuals from other drugs as easily as most seem to.

Salvia is such a mind blowing thing to me. I wish everyone could get what I do from it.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7495258 - 10/07/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yargh! I get so frustrated when I hear people seeing the most amazing things on salvia and I smoke a gram of 20x and don't see a damn thing.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: learningtofly]
    #7495334 - 10/07/07 05:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I get frustrated seeing people not getting there too. I have a very generous sharing nature. I want everyone to relate to and share in the amazement. I wonder what makes it vary so much from person to person?


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7495349 - 10/07/07 05:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Salvia makes me feel like I got sucked through a cheese grater face first, and then spit out inside a washing machine that slowly stops spinning. Nothing weirder than an intergalactic toboggan ride. The first time I ever tried it was the 15x extract. If you put a room full of people together one of which hit a whip-it, one hit some duster, one hit some salvia, and then had one spectator who also hit some helium, who do you think would see and hear the the weirdest shit?


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7495457 - 10/07/07 05:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I get frustrated seeing people not getting there too. I have a very generous sharing nature. I want everyone to relate to and share in the amazement. I wonder what makes it vary so much from person to person?




i think you misread me. You are frustrated because other people cant get there. I am frurstrated because i cant get tehre


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: learningtofly]
    #7495481 - 10/07/07 05:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

No I didn't misread you. I'm frustrated because I too wish you could get there. That's what I was saying for the most part.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7495521 - 10/07/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Oooh. Well can you help me?


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: learningtofly]
    #7495581 - 10/07/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think I've tried to already and we didn't really get anywhere.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7495635 - 10/07/07 06:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

idk why but salvia never works for me it sux i wanted to see what it was like dammit!


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: them0oninites]
    #7495673 - 10/07/07 06:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I really want to know WHY that is though. I know all drugs affect different people different ways. What is different between people that get little effects from salvia versus people that get a lot. I don't recall reading any explanation for this anywhere. I think sagewisdom stated that about 10% of people are not strongly affected but I have no idea why that is. There is much research to be done with salvia. I don't even know if this particular phenomenon has been researched any yet.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7495869 - 10/07/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

indeed perhaps a study is in need? id be happy to conduct it!


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7495872 - 10/07/07 10:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

gimme some pure salvinorin, that'll tell us once and for all


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7496383 - 10/08/07 05:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe your mode of smoking is not the right one?
Always remember that you better keep the lighter on while firing Salvia
because Salvinorin A is in need of high temperature to be burnt. Then
just suck it away and close your eyes (it makes the effect stronger
sometimes...)! Hold on here... do not breathe or move and wait about
20 - 30 seconds (the longer the better). And don't forget to put your
bong aside :wink:

Meanwhile this works anytime for me since I lost my tolerance (I think so :wink:)!
I get really effected by ordinary leaves. I'll try to draw what I've
seen yesterday :smile: It was quite strange because there was a train (I
was even able to hear it) and it passed my way... only that passing of
that stupid train brought me so much joy =)

I hope you can enter this world. I also feel sorry for those who can't :frown:
I feel very related to all the people when I do salvia ^^


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: psychophobia]
    #7497619 - 10/08/07 01:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

wow ive never really had a crazy visual like to you descibed in the train just wierd objects sort of like the visuals on a gram of mushies


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: them0oninites]
    #7497740 - 10/08/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Oh sorry maybe you misread my post...
I'm not sure if I really saw the train... it was a strange trip anyway
because I was still in this room but my imagination was nearly as strong
as a 100% halluzination. But it was a little softer... my carpet for
example morphed into some rails so maybe that was the case of the train ^^


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: psychophobia]
    #7497764 - 10/08/07 02:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

oh i see but thats still awesome im making acid now! :grin: the hbw amide to lysergic synthensis


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: them0oninites]
    #7497983 - 10/08/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry, it's too hard for me to understand those shortcuts in English yet =(

As far as I understood you mean LSA (Woodrose)... I'm thinking about
trying it, too... but first I want to collect more experiences with my
given stuff :laugh:

By the way... is Salvia legal in every part of America? Unfortunately
here in Germany it is discussed to be illegalized =(


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: psychophobia]
    #7498006 - 10/08/07 03:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

only some states outlaw it but its not seen as a really effective hallucinogen seeing that it lasts only 10 minutes on average dosage. whats germany like?


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7498042 - 10/08/07 03:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I wish I could afford Salvia...:(


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: sk8cracka]
    #7498066 - 10/08/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

its like 20 dollars and ounce of leaves man


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: them0oninites]
    #7498302 - 10/08/07 04:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Meanwhile it is illegal to sell it in Germany so you have to order from the Netherlands but that's no problem because most of the shops ship for free :wink:

Until now it is still legal to own and consume it.

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Der Sachverständigenausschuss des Bundesinstituts für Arzneimittel (BfArM) hat in seiner Sitzung am 18.06.2007 daher die Beschlussempfehlung ausgesprochen, Pflanzen und Pflanzenteile von Salvia divinorum nicht der Apothekenpflicht zu unterstellen, sondern in Anlage I des Betäubungsmittelgesetz einzustufen. Es ist daher davon auszugehen, dass der Umgang mit Salvia divinorum in Kürze verboten werden wird.
Source: Wikipedia




This says that Salvia will probably be outlawed soon because it is classified into the narcotic law instead of the pharmarcy law :frown:
I gotta hurry and get some plants soon :frown:

I think it will be outlawed within two months :frown:


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: psychophobia]
    #7499078 - 10/08/07 07:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

wow your screwed if that is taking place. do people vote down there? sorry sort of a n00b at history lol


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: them0oninites]
    #7500532 - 10/09/07 05:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

No problem *gg* Yeah, we do vote... but not for laws or something like
that... we can only elect different parties which should represent our
statements and there is only one party which is very tolerant with drugs :frown:

The fact that salvia will be outlawed is not a that big deal for me
because I intend to grow it by my own. But anyway I think it sucks. The
political situation in Germany is fucked up, the unemployment is higher
than never before and that shitty government has nothing better to do
but taking a part of the joy of many people :frown:

Bavaria is even the second worst. It is easier to come up with drugs
in the north like Berlin. There you can own up to 8 grams grass without
any lawful consequences if I remember rightly... could be 5 or 10 grams, too...

edit: I've found this graphic...

Source: wikipedia

Orange: has to be ceased
Purple: can be ceased


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"Please would you tell me," said Alice, a little timidly, for she was not quite sure whether it was good manners for her to speak first, "why your cat grins like that?"
    "It’s a Cheshire-Cat," said the Duchess, "and that’s why. [...]"


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