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OfflineKiller Sausage
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I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it.
    #7481179 - 10/03/07 01:57 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Ook, I'm home alone right now and sick, and I got nothin to do right now. Then I remembered that I had bought Salvia a few days ago. The front of the package says this:

THE STANDARDIZED
SALVIA DIVINORUM
Standardized 10x Extract

4mg STANDARDIZED SALVINORIN-A EXTRACT


Accordin to the back of the product, this contains 0.1 gram of pure "standardized" extract of Salvia Divinorum.

Now, it's only 4mg, not a whole gram, but it's 10x. I don't have a butane lighter, only a regular one. I also do not have a sitter, and it's possible that my mom/sister might come home at any random moment. I've been real eager to try it out, I'm wonderin whether I should attempt to smoke a TEENY bit (like a pinch) from my bong with a regular lighter (dunno if it'll work), or if I should chew it for like 10 minutes. And if I was to chew this 10x extract, how much should I chew, and what should I expect?

Remember people, 4 MILLIGRAMS, and the extract is of 10x strength.


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*cannabis, psilocybe, fly agaric, salvia, LSD, mescaline, AMT, LSA, 5meo-DMT, DMT.
(* = done it)

Sebastian23 on extractin THC from urine:
"I doubt it, and in any way that could be worth extracting trace chemicals from hella urine samples.
Thats like using recycled human shit to feed humans. It's just a bad idea."
LOL!!!

Edited by Killer Sausage (10/03/07 01:59 PM)

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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Killer Sausage]
    #7481193 - 10/03/07 02:00 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

put it in a bong, take a huge rip. Hold it at least 30 seconds, if you can get another in, do it. Hold on.

in about 5-10 min later you be back on earth.

I don't find a need for a sitter with salvia. makes me uncomfortable to have people around.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7481203 - 10/03/07 02:03 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Only 4mgs?
Are you sure its not 4mgs per gram?
4mgs would be a very tiny pile.

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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7481235 - 10/03/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

DuNeRaVeR said:
put it in a bong, take a huge rip. Hold it at least 30 seconds, if you can get another in, do it. Hold on.

in about 5-10 min later you be back on earth.

I don't find a need for a sitter with salvia. makes me uncomfortable to have people around.




Hmm, but how much should I put in the bong. All of it? And I heard that regular lighters aren't that effective, so I'm curious as to if this would work or not. Also, I'm thinkin that if I was to do this, I'd be sittin on the floor, take a huge rip, then lie back and let it out. I don't wanna fall down or knock anythin over lol.

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El Zorro said:
Only 4mgs?
Are you sure its not 4mgs per gram?
4mgs would be a very tiny pile.




It's pretty small. It makes a pile no bigger than an American/Canadian quarter.


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CHECKLIST:
*cannabis, psilocybe, fly agaric, salvia, LSD, mescaline, AMT, LSA, 5meo-DMT, DMT.
(* = done it)

Sebastian23 on extractin THC from urine:
"I doubt it, and in any way that could be worth extracting trace chemicals from hella urine samples.
Thats like using recycled human shit to feed humans. It's just a bad idea."
LOL!!!

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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Killer Sausage]
    #7481245 - 10/03/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

You really dont need much of10x. You dont NEED to use a crack torch, I have always used normal lighters and have been able to achieve a breakthrough.

I would recommend putting it on top of something that is not very harsh smoke.

the longer you hold in your hit the better.


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Sit up and meditate, there's no time to contemplate.
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I make various form of Psytrance as a solo Project Dendriform

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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Killer Sausage]
    #7481248 - 10/03/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

sounds like a gram to me.
you figure a microdot lsd pill is 7 milligrams
and thats about the size of a piece of spaghetti cut into a barrel shape

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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Killer Sausage]
    #7481277 - 10/03/07 02:24 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

A "normal" dose for beginners are about 0,3g leaves. Beginners do have
very often a tolerance so you'd better near to your dose step by step.
1g 10x standardized accords to 10g leaves if I remember rightly.

I did salvia 10x without weighing it before (it was too much for the
first time :frown:). So the trip itself wasn't that nice. I decided to never
ever do it again. But the afterglowing was that amazing that I changed
my mind.

This week I ordered 25g leaves, 1g 5x extract, 2g 10x extract and 1g 15x extract :wink:

I think I'm going to collect several experiences :smile:

And remember: salvia divinorum is not a party drug. I wouldn't smoke
it in big accompany (<-- is this word rightly used ^^?) but at least
you'd better have one tripsitter if you start with 10x.

Enjoy the sage :smile:

Edit: Remember that from 0,25mg you can get really affected :smile:
Just listen to the song "Salvia Divinorum" from 1200 Microgramms :laugh:

Edited by psychophobia (10/03/07 03:03 PM)

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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: psychophobia]
    #7481423 - 10/03/07 03:08 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Empty the water from your bong.

Place a pinch of extract in the bowl. About as much as you can smoke in two hits.

Using any lighter you wish, pull the flame through the salvia the entire time you are hitting it. Don't just light it and then draw like you would with weed. Keep the flame in it.

Hold it in as long as you can without passing out or anything.

If you are not feeling something signifigant by the time you exhale the smoke give it another rip otherwise sit it down and hang on.

Actually don't hang on. Relax and enjoy the ride.

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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7481560 - 10/03/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Deff pack that shit into your bongo and rip it.
Sit back and relax youll be back in this galaxy in 10 min.

Have fun.


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I smoke 2 joints at night,
I smoke 2 joints in the afternoon,
It make me fell alright.

I smoke 2 joints in a time of peace
and 2 in time of war,
I smoke 2 joints before i smoke 2 joints,
and then I smoke 2 more.

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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7481571 - 10/03/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I tried a bit earlier, but I barely felt anythin. Well, I felt sorta different for a moment, and when I looked at the ceiling, it was sorta shiftin and movin a lil, but nothin significant. I think this is because my lighter had a weak flame, and I didn't hold the flame over the extract like how TripityDooDaDay said. I guess I wasted a PINCH, but I still have a lot left. I'll buy a new lighter and try again sometime.

psychophobia: Nice info there, and I have heard that song actually.


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CHECKLIST:
*cannabis, psilocybe, fly agaric, salvia, LSD, mescaline, AMT, LSA, 5meo-DMT, DMT.
(* = done it)

Sebastian23 on extractin THC from urine:
"I doubt it, and in any way that could be worth extracting trace chemicals from hella urine samples.
Thats like using recycled human shit to feed humans. It's just a bad idea."
LOL!!!

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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Killer Sausage]
    #7481610 - 10/03/07 04:09 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

You may have to smoke it several times before the breakthrough happens.
Then you'll see the "twist" and then "goodbye"

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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: El Zorro]
    #7481678 - 10/03/07 04:28 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

4mg of salvinorin is not small. It only takes several micrograms to achieve the effects.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Serdal]
    #7481765 - 10/03/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

It's not 4mg of pure Salvinorin, it's 4mg of 10x extract. 4mg of pure Salvinorin-A would last me a lifetime, hahaha.


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CHECKLIST:
*cannabis, psilocybe, fly agaric, salvia, LSD, mescaline, AMT, LSA, 5meo-DMT, DMT.
(* = done it)

Sebastian23 on extractin THC from urine:
"I doubt it, and in any way that could be worth extracting trace chemicals from hella urine samples.
Thats like using recycled human shit to feed humans. It's just a bad idea."
LOL!!!

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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: Killer Sausage]
    #7481775 - 10/03/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

put a pinch of it in the pipe
smoke it deep fast and hold
it should work.
I get 50 hits from one gram of 10 x
many people just get 20 hits
some only get 10 from the whole gram.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7483264 - 10/03/07 11:26 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

It's not 4mg of 10x

It's 1 gram of 10x "Standardized" to contain 4mg per gram.

4mg is not even enough to smoke.

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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: El Zorro]
    #7483319 - 10/03/07 11:48 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

one gram of plain leaf should have 2.5 mg salvinorin
one gram of 10x should have 25 mg of salvinorin.

some strong batches of plain leaf have 4mg salvinorin.
I don't know what to say about this kid's product.


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7484088 - 10/04/07 08:50 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

One gram 10x 25mg of Salvinorin A?
Plain leaves contain averaged 1,5mg/g (so wikipedia says. I do not believe it).

25mg would be enough for ~80 trips... I don't think you can use 10x that often :wink:


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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: psychophobia]
    #7484151 - 10/04/07 09:18 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

1 gram of 10x SHOULD have 25mg of salvinorum.

How would you get 80 trips out of 25mg? It should be enough for around 25 strong trips but YMMV and I would do good to get 10 strong trips or more low doses. No where near 80 though.

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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7484285 - 10/04/07 10:04 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Hrm... as I know ~300 Microgramms is the dose for a average trip.
I'm sorry if I was talking crap :laugh:


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    "It’s a Cheshire-Cat," said the Duchess, "and that’s why. [...]"

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Re: I now have Salvia, help me figure out what to do with it. [Re: psychophobia]
    #7485676 - 10/04/07 05:11 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

i do use 300-400 mics per session but I am a soft head
many people need 800-1100 mics
go figure.


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