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so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day
    #7480430 - 10/03/07 12:54 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

she's in a downward spiral, met up with some junkies at the park, went to their apartment, saw them shoot up and they offered her some, she accepted and she got a fix of methadone. anyway she used a junkies needle who flamed it saying "hiv dies at 60, he flame is about a hundred" and she used that needle. then they fucked.

well, need i say more? she's fucked up (14 years old). then they raided the junkies mom's apartment and took her stuff to the pawn shop.

she has an online journal about this and it makes an interesting read, really book-worthy material, but i'm never gonna let her inside my house again, it just makes me sick. i'm trying to urge her to write a book about her experiences and such.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7480472 - 10/03/07 01:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Let's see the blog  :awesome:


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: mushroomplume]
    #7480495 - 10/03/07 01:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

That is messed up...

Just found out a loose friend of mine that I haven't seen in a while is a full blown tweaker, kind of a bummer.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #7480515 - 10/03/07 01:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

the blog isn't in english.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7480705 - 10/03/07 01:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

That's really very sad...  :frown:


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7480765 - 10/03/07 02:11 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It probably sucks anyway

Drugged up teenagers are never interesting, despite what they and others think, and to be fair, anything is book material nowadays


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7481101 - 10/03/07 03:30 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: TheCow]
    #7481390 - 10/03/07 04:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Shes a winner:) on the path to presidency.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #7481820 - 10/03/07 07:20 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

So you were there and they just shot up and fucked? that sucks.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7481832 - 10/03/07 07:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

really theres only one thing wrong with this situation...




she shot up methadone.. that was pretty pointless.. i mean you cant get a rush shooting methadone. i guess she just wanted to get hep-c maybe hiv and she didnt even get any higher than if she wouldve just swallowed it.. your friend is a real winner


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Infrared]
    #7481850 - 10/03/07 07:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

who the fuck shoots up methadone? it doesnt even have a rush lmao.

HIV doesnt die at 60 either. Not saying that I've never taken the risk of sharing with a needle, but damn, at least bleach the shit for 2 full mins.

and dont ever, EVER :crankey: let them in your house. especially not your fucking parents' house. in fact, dont even let them know what area you live in. if they ask, youre supposed to lie.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Crystal G]
    #7481881 - 10/03/07 07:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

thats not bookworthy. bad decisions and behavior are nothing new or novel.

that girl is waste.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: moon_glue]
    #7481904 - 10/03/07 07:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Im gonna disagree Ive read alot of writing that was under the influence of drugs and wrong decisions. Im sure alot of your favorite books and music have been made under the influence.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Crystal G]
    #7481905 - 10/03/07 07:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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who the fuck shoots up methadone?




On that same token who shoots up seroquel? LMAO sorry just cant let that one go for awhile. I was actually picturing you G when I was reading that description. jk


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #7481911 - 10/03/07 07:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

the emphasis is the actions someone does on drugs. not that they do them.
for example : the guy who takes LSD and theorizes the DNA double helix

vs.

the 14 year old girl who shoots methodone, gets laid, and then pawns someones shit.


which one of this situations is rare and bookeworther, and which situation is not uncommmon?


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: moon_glue]
    #7481916 - 10/03/07 07:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i just cant spell for shit this evening


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: moon_glue]
    #7481939 - 10/03/07 07:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

She is fourteen years old and is not only shooting drugs but fucking the junkies that gave her the methadone? That shit is fucked and she is too young too fully understand the consequences.

IF your 14 year old daughter was shooting methadone and having sex with people that are probably older and much more sexually experienced you wouldn't you like to know about it? Tell her parents or someone that could help her, she might hate you for it but it will help her in the long run.

My cousin died of a herion dose when she was only 17 and I wish some one could have helped her.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: pazzy]
    #7482041 - 10/03/07 08:23 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

you're friends with a 14 year old?

are you old enough for this forum, or do you just have really... young friends?

anyway that truly is a fucked up story nonetheless. stories like that sicken me, really... but in the same sense, it's also very saddening. hate to see somebody so innocent with so much future ahead of them screw up like that. shucks.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #7482129 - 10/03/07 08:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

word.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: lysergicide]
    #7482270 - 10/03/07 09:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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you're friends with a 14 year old?





was wondering about that myself, lol.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7482395 - 10/03/07 09:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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she's in a downward spiral, met up with some junkies at the park, went to their apartment, saw them shoot up and they offered her some, she accepted and she got a fix of methadone. anyway she used a junkies needle who flamed it saying "hiv dies at 60, he flame is about a hundred" and she used that needle. then they fucked.

well, need i say more? she's fucked up (14 years old). then they raided the junkies mom's apartment and took her stuff to the pawn shop.




Fail.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: The_Ghost]
    #7483702 - 10/04/07 05:20 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

she has a morbid fascination with serial killers & torture. she just wanted to inject anything at that time. and yes, i'm friends with her as she's very mature for her age and we can talk about random shit without being judgmental at each other.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7483708 - 10/04/07 05:25 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Ehm, sorry no. Not mature for her age. Mature 14 year olds do not shoot up methadone, fuck someone (I presume as payment for the methadone), steal a bunch of shit, and then pawn it off. That strikes me as distinctly immature.

A girl from my high school (she was like 3 years behind me or some such, she was going to tech college at the time) just OD'd and died on heroin last month. Get that girl help if you can. If not, get the fuck away from that shit before she drags you down too.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: circularvortex]
    #7483712 - 10/04/07 05:30 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

you are not the judge of that.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7483713 - 10/04/07 05:31 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

On no authority other than my own, I hereby proclaim myself the judge of that. :cool:


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    #7483720 - 10/04/07 05:53 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7483730 - 10/04/07 06:15 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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well, need i say more? she's fucked up (14 years old). then they raided the junkies mom's apartment and took her stuff to the pawn shop.






i don't know if this is funny or not, but i laughed


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: druqs]
    #7483876 - 10/04/07 08:47 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

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well, need i say more? she's fucked up (14 years old). then they raided the junkies mom's apartment and took her stuff to the pawn shop.






i don't know if this is funny or not, but i laughed




it is funny, i laughed too when i heard this. there's no other way to take it.

so should she go check for them funky diseases now?


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7483951 - 10/04/07 09:41 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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she has a morbid fascination with serial killers & torture. she just wanted to inject anything at that time. and yes, i'm friends with her as she's very mature for her age and we can talk about random shit without being judgmental at each other.




you sound like one of those guys on "To Catch a Predator". all them were like, "well, she seemed mature for her age, and i just wanted to talk to her, and try to help her not do these kinds of things."

dude, abandon that relationship now before she brings you down with her quickly sinking ship.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Syle]
    #7483963 - 10/04/07 09:48 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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she has a morbid fascination with serial killers & torture. she just wanted to inject anything at that time. and yes, i'm friends with her as she's very mature for her age and we can talk about random shit without being judgmental at each other.




you sound like one of those guys on "To Catch a Predator". all them were like, "well, she seemed mature for her age, and i just wanted to talk to her, and try to help her not do these kinds of things."

dude, abandon that relationship now before she brings you down with her quickly sinking ship.




seriously.

all she has to do is threaten to blackmail you on some statutory rape that never even happened b/t you two, and you're fucked to high heaven. she may seem above that now, but if she's becoming a little junkie, then no friendships are sacred.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #7484009 - 10/04/07 10:13 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

This is totally unrelated but I saw this junkie and his girlfriend shoot eachother up with oxy one time and when the dude pulled the needle out his girlfriends arm he licked the blood that seeped out of her arm . It was one of the nastiest things I have ever seen and solidified the fact I never want to inject anything into my system.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: disturbed]
    #7484082 - 10/04/07 10:47 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

my advice, stay the fuck away from that 14 year old if you are old enough to use this forum. I've seen plenty of ppl waste thier life away, and they won't listen to you. If you are over 18 then why the fuck hang out with a 14 y/o bitch anyway?
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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: peaceandlove]
    #7484099 - 10/04/07 10:54 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Someone didn't coin the term jailbait for nothing (assuming you are over 18)

The more I think about it, your story really just makes you look bad either way.  You're either not 18 like you should be or you are over 18 and are hanging out with a 14 year old smack whore who you consider mature. :eek:


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7484120 - 10/04/07 11:01 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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she has a morbid fascination with serial killers & torture. she just wanted to inject anything at that time.




And you still have respect for this person?

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and yes, i'm friends with her as she's very mature for her age




You have lost your mind. you can tell a person by their friends.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7484152 - 10/04/07 11:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

that's pretty sad. the least you can do for her is give her a crash course about dirty needles...maybe give her some std pamplets or something. she needs to know that you can't go around using a junkies dirty needle...and then fuck them. in all honesty though, it doesn't sound like there's very much you can say to a person whose as "mature" as this girl seems to be.

fuck it. write her mom an anonymous letter explaining how her daughter is spiraling into junkie whore territory at 14 years old and hope she gets some rehab or a swift kick in the ass. who knows, maybe it'll save her life.

14 years old fucking junkies and sharing needles...her days are numbered!


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7484160 - 10/04/07 11:20 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

No way could I, or anyone over the age of 18 relate with any 14 year old no matter how "mature" they are.

14 years old is ridiculously young.

Even the gap from 16 to 18 is HUGE.

Not trying to flame, but if you could explain what makes her mature for her age, i would be thrilled to know.

Tell her parents.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: MycoCakeEater]
    #7484169 - 10/04/07 11:22 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

he's 15 i bet...a legal adult wouldn't watch some kid do this shit to themselves.

except for a pedo...hmmm.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Stizzle]
    #7484189 - 10/04/07 11:31 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day *DELETED* [Re: Stizzle]
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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: MycoCakeEater]
    #7484192 - 10/04/07 11:33 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Tell her parents.




You should because it sounds like she is set on self destruction.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Stizzle]
    #7484198 - 10/04/07 11:35 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

nice.

First Off Yea I can agree that its possible to have a 14 year old friend whos mature enough on a surface and possibly deep level. Possible.

Age is not the issue, A shitty friend is. Who drags you along to fuck some junkie? not cool. I your gonna have to just drop that shit, No calling her mom or any of that bullshit. That wont change a damn thing. People try so hard to think that by slapping someone on the wrist it will make them stop. All you can really to is convey your support and if she doesn't accept it leave it at that.

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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Hakim0777]
    #7484204 - 10/04/07 11:38 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You're saying as a mature adult, you could pick up a 14 year old from a Middle school (8th grade), and have a deep friendship.

Do you remember 8th grade? FAR from maturity. FAR from "deepness".


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    #7484229 - 10/04/07 11:45 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Chubba]
    #7484242 - 10/04/07 11:50 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Nah I disagree with you. When I was in eighth grade is when I lost my V-card and started doing drugs...As was every other fucking teen around me. And As for deepness man...The reason why kids are usualy more deep or mature than others is a lack of a sheltered life. Experiences at an early age.

Alot of Shroomerites are very sheltered people. Idk maybe thats why. Alot of people here come from middle+ class families and all that jazz so who knows.

For instance my little sister is turning 14 on the 10th and I can get into discussions with her about ANYTHING. Granted she does have an IQ of 150 :P

Were not in the 80's anymore people...Everyone is developing faster.


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    #7484246 - 10/04/07 11:53 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Hakim0777]
    #7484250 - 10/04/07 11:54 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

sex and drugs do not make you any more mature. intelligence does not make you mature. age, wisdom, and experience are generally the main factors that go into maturity.

there's no way in hell you can honestly say that you were even remotely mature at 14, as compared to how you are at 20.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #7484273 - 10/04/07 12:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i remember thinking i was really mature and thinking certain other people my age were mature and deep, but it was just everyone going through puberty and acting like dumb shits.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Chubba]
    #7484288 - 10/04/07 12:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

8th grade i was getting high and watching chapelle :smirk: that's as "bad" as things got for me. where was teh methadone at?!?! :shrug:


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #7484290 - 10/04/07 12:06 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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sex and drugs do not make you any more mature. intelligence does not make you mature. age, wisdom, and experience are generally the main factors that go into maturity.

there's no way in hell you can honestly say that you were even remotely mature at 14, as compared to how you are at 20.




Nah I can. Thats when I almost had a kid, Was living on my own and working. My argument is based of experience.

I find most 14 year old fuck ups can be wiser in someways than alot of these "college kids" living off daddies money. If you wanna talk about experience people who are sheltered have no experience what so ever.

Going to school and listening to orders does not translate into experience or intelligence.

What makes someone intelligent is being able to reconize there surroundings and act accordingly. Something thats gained through faliure and roadblocks in my opinion.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Chubba]
    #7484293 - 10/04/07 12:09 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I have no idea who that guy is (I'm Australian) but I saw a hilarious clip on youtube with him.



Old, but funny.




is that chris hansen??


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    #7484298 - 10/04/07 12:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Chubba]
    #7484317 - 10/04/07 12:18 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Who said I dropped out?In my opionion

Wise Someone who learns from there mistakes and others. someone who is in tune to them selves.
Intelligence- biologically theres 7 forms of intelligence. But as to what we are talking about I consider intelligence general knowledge of important things around you. Common sense. Math. Reading. Writing. NOT history lol. How to do things. receptiveness.

Experience Forms both of those.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Chubba]
    #7484326 - 10/04/07 12:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It's not Chris Hansen some douche fox news anchor who's name is Sheppard Smith.

I don't think anyone is disagreeing that a 14 yr old CAN be mature. Generally they are not and the story the OP told shows one of many ways 14 year olds can be stupid and naive.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Chubba]
    #7484331 - 10/04/07 12:23 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

:rofl2:

that's funny righ there


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: peaceandlove]
    #7484366 - 10/04/07 12:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

it really does look like him lolz


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Chubba]
    #7484538 - 10/04/07 01:30 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

thats shepard smith ... hes a bundle of sticks & not very shroomy


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Chubba]
    #7485294 - 10/04/07 04:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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saying "hiv dies at 60, he flame is about a hundred"



HIV doesn't "die" (it's not a living organism first off) at 60 degree's. Also since when is a flame a 100 degree's, most of them are around 1000 degree's celcius.




The debate on whether a virus is "alive" is one that many scientists have tackled on that revolves around the issue of what the real meaning of life is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus#Lifeform_debate

HIV most certainly can be destroyed, but the virus is extremely stable, so using a flame for a few seconds is definitely not one of the methods.


edit: I forgot to add, they have that new medication out now to cure HIV, so long as it is taken within 72 hours of transmission. if she uses a needle and has any regrets about it afterwards, she should go to to a hospital and be honest about what she has done to the doctors. they will probably give her the proper treatment before even conducting an HIV test, as time is crucial for this medication.

i see that you are in europe, well good for you it shouldn't be too expensive (possibly even free?) depending on the country that you are in.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Crystal G]
    #7485321 - 10/04/07 05:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Also I think many of you are being far too hard on this girl. She is still very young, and susceptible to her surroundings, that are warping her mind with more impact than it would somebody in their 20's or 30's.

Sometimes, people need to live a certain extreme--whether it be the good or the bad--in order to truly find a stable middle ground. Generally people who've had it tough at a younger age have a tendency to go two ways: 1) They will blossom into somebody wiser, or 2) Fall into the subhuman decline of society.

In my opinion, those who are TRULY elite will find a way to become both, and live a double life. :lol:

I guess we'll find out in another decade... that is, if most of US are even around by then :crazy2: :lol:


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: A0999]
    #7545706 - 10/22/07 05:40 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

so she has been committed to psychiatric hospital. she's in a closed ward and before they took her cell phone away she messaged me and a few other friends to go see her. we're trying to get an appointment. i'll hitchhike there, it's a few hundred kilometers.

should be interesting, i've always been fascinated by asylums.

oh and she wrote that the doctors did all sorts of tests on her and she saw a report where they diagnosed her with aspergers syndrome or something like that.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7545709 - 10/22/07 05:43 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

what is aspergers syndrome?


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #7545712 - 10/22/07 05:50 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i didn't know what it was too until i wikipediad it:

Asperger syndrome (also Asperger's syndrome, Asperger's disorder, Asperger's, AS, or AD) is one of several autism spectrum disorders (ASD) characterized by difficulties in social interaction and by restricted and stereotyped interests and activities. AS is distinguished from the other ASDs in having no general delay in language or cognitive development. Although not mentioned in standard diagnostic criteria, motor clumsiness and atypical use of language are frequently reported.[1][2]

Asperger syndrome was named after Hans Asperger who, in 1944, described children in his practice who appeared to have normal intelligence but lacked nonverbal communication skills, failed to demonstrate empathy with their peers, and were physically clumsy. Fifty years later, AS was recognized in the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD-10), and in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) as Asperger's Disorder. Questions about many aspects of AS remain: for example, there is lingering doubt about the distinction between AS and high-functioning autism (HFA);[3] partly due to this, the prevalence of AS is not firmly established. The exact cause of AS is unknown, although research supports the likelihood of a genetic contribution, and brain imaging techniques have identified structural and functional differences in specific regions of the brain.

There is no single treatment for Asperger syndrome, and the effectiveness of particular interventions is supported by only limited data. Intervention is aimed at improving symptoms and function. The mainstay of treatment is behavioral therapy, focusing on specific deficits to address poor communication skills, obsessive or repetitive routines, and clumsiness. Most individuals with AS can learn to cope with their differences, but may continue to need moral support and encouragement to maintain an independent life.[4] Adults with AS have reached the highest levels of achievement in fields such as mathematics, physics and computer science.[5] Researchers and people with AS have contributed to a shift in attitudes away from the notion that AS is a deviation from the norm that must be treated or cured, and towards the view that AS is a difference rather than a disability.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7545774 - 10/22/07 07:15 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Alright.

First off, I'd like to say that I myself have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome, so I know all about the condition. My intelligence (namely in the vein of logical deduction and 'deep thought') was certainly far above that of my peers. However, I was no less prone to making stupid decisions than any of the normal people around me. I've done a few dumb things in my lifetime, but nothing near what this girl has done. I can say with confidence that while she may be of above-average intelligence and is able to express herself more eloquently than people her age, that this does not translate into actually being wise.

As somebody else said, wisdom comes from experience. You can know everything about something, but until you actually experience it, you only have a vague idea. Trust me on this one. People with Asperger's are usually very committed to routines. DON'T let her make a routine of doing shit like this, or it will be much harder to pull her away from a drug addiction and the bad things they can lead to than it would a normal person her age.

As an Asperger patient, she is no doubt beating herself up in her head over what she's done. Use this to your advantage and do everything in your power to reaffirm her thoughts. If possible, avoid telling her parents unless there's absolutely nothing you can do within your own power to stop her. If her parents react badly, it could only make things worse for her, as it's possible she would turn to some other drug in order to take away the stress.

This might sound fucked up, but try turning her towards a drug that isn't as likely to make her do crazy things, like weed or cigarettes. She's going to want a fix some way or another, so it may as well be something that a vast majority of drug users are comfortable with, and something that's relatively easy to come by.

Hope this helps. Send her my regards if you speak with her.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7546827 - 10/22/07 03:00 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

They don't put you in a psychiatric ward with asperger's or your typical teenage identity crisis. Sounds like the said girl has more serious issues. Remember that autumn is also the time of depression. Is she from a well-disposed family? Sounds a bit too fucked up for a 14 year old. But yes - she certainly needs friends and family now. Visit her as soon as possible. Talk to her, and what's more important - listen. My best wishes to her!

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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7547247 - 10/22/07 04:54 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

How old r u?

U cud get in some seriouse shit if your over 18, if your not then u not sposed 2 b here...


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    #7547255 - 10/22/07 04:55 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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My class graduated in '04,

Most people didn't start losing their virginity till grade 12.

Most people started drinking in grade 11 and drugs in grade 12.

Grade 8, you're still little children, I would just watch pokemon and play guitar, don't need to worry about HIV/Hep C or stupid shit like this.




Holy crap man!! Where do you live? In some 50's television show??


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    #7547402 - 10/22/07 05:38 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

if you're an adult, your a scumbag for letting that happen to begin with. i'm all for letting people make their own choices and wouldn't have much of a problem of even my own daughter (if i had one) smoking pot or anything at that age. i'd be sure to talk to her about it and let her know the possibile consequences of her actions, but to the point of injecting drugs at 14? and in such a irresponsible way as to share needles... meanwhile you're there watching? thats a situation where you need to man up and tell her no, if she won't listen tell the guys offering her the drugs no, if they won't listen force them to listen, and in a situation where that wouldn't be possible then call for help... if you're more around her age, calling her parents or someone you know that cares and has some amount of control over her isn't a bitch thing to do. it's a lil different than narcing on her for smoking a joint behind the school, or screwing your friend in the church bathroom, even if she hates you for it, at least you know you are helping her and not watching a friend die.


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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: whattheheck]
    #7547433 - 10/22/07 05:50 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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My class graduated in '04,

Most people didn't start losing their virginity till grade 12.

Most people started drinking in grade 11 and drugs in grade 12.

Grade 8, you're still little children, I would just watch pokemon and play guitar, don't need to worry about HIV/Hep C or stupid shit like this.




Holy crap man!! Where do you live? In some 50's television show??




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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: Hakim0777]
    #7547729 - 10/22/07 07:13 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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sex and drugs do not make you any more mature. intelligence does not make you mature. age, wisdom, and experience are generally the main factors that go into maturity.

there's no way in hell you can honestly say that you were even remotely mature at 14, as compared to how you are at 20.




Nah I can. Thats when I almost had a kid, Was living on my own and working. My argument is based of experience.

I find most 14 year old fuck ups can be wiser in someways than alot of these "college kids" living off daddies money. If you wanna talk about experience people who are sheltered have no experience what so ever.

Going to school and listening to orders does not translate into experience or intelligence.

What makes someone intelligent is being able to reconize there surroundings and act accordingly. Something thats gained through faliure and roadblocks in my opinion.




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Re: so my friend shot up methadone with heroin junkies the other day [Re: lysergicide]
    #7547807 - 10/22/07 07:24 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i didnt read the thread but im sure someone has already told you methadone has a very high oral bioavalibilty, so shooting it is very very dumb


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