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Sky-Diving On DMT WTF??
    #7480387 - 10/03/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I just read an interesting story about a guy who went sky-diving while on DMT. This is the absolute epitome of responsible drug use: :rolleyes:

http://www.shroomery.org/9675/Godlike-DMT-Skydiving-Experience

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crazy guy said:
"Overall, this experience was IMMENSELY enlightening and also probably one of the most idiotic things a person could do."




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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Robo]
    #7480491 - 10/03/07 11:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't read that, but if it was a tandem jump (somebody else strapped to him) than i don't see the danger.
And if it wasn't, its his life. If he wants to take that risk its not hurting anyone else. I bet it was one hell of an experience... or just as likely the same as smoking dmt in his bedroom.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Dreamer987]
    #7480497 - 10/03/07 11:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I didn't read that, but if it was a tandem jump (somebody else strapped to him) than i don't see the danger.
And if it wasn't, its his life. If he wants to take that risk its not hurting anyone else. I bet it was one hell of an experience... or just as likely the same as smoking dmt in his bedroom.




It wasn't a tandem. He said he planned on making sure to pull the ripcord BEFORE he exhaled.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #7480499 - 10/03/07 11:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

k well thats pretty stupid


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Dreamer987]
    #7480512 - 10/03/07 11:12 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

fuck all that i could barely move when i did dmt


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Robo]
    #7480697 - 10/03/07 11:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Honestly, I've been thinking about it and I don't see how he could have accomplished this without killing himself.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Robo]
    #7480817 - 10/03/07 12:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Adagio said:
Honestly, I've been thinking about it and I don't see how he could have accomplished this without killing himself.




Me Either. This one still has me for a loss of words. I can't believe it.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #7481115 - 10/03/07 01:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

There's no way he would be able to land while on DMT...

Parachute landings are rather rough...


The only way I could see how he would do it is if he was straped to somebody esle, and they pulled the chord....


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7481124 - 10/03/07 01:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I know, but the person makes no mention at all that he did a tandem jump. All he says is he took a huge toke of DMT then jumped. I think its total BS.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7481135 - 10/03/07 01:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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There's no way he would be able to land while on DMT...

Parachute landings are rather rough...


The only way I could see how he would do it is if he was straped to somebody esle, and they pulled the chord....




At first I thought it was somewhat interesting and cool, but after thinking about landing while under the influence of DMT... pretty stupid idea. However, since he lived and to my knowledge did not endanger anyone else in the process, it must have been one hell of a trip! What's a few broken bones worth anyway?


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: MorphMan]
    #7481177 - 10/03/07 01:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Where is this guy? He's a member of this site,right? I want him to explain how he did it.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Robo]
    #7481521 - 10/03/07 03:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

There was a member a couple months back flirting with the idea of this, wonder if it is the same guy. He sounded pretty serious about it.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7481525 - 10/03/07 03:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Can you recall his username?


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Robo]
    #7481537 - 10/03/07 03:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

No sorry, I would have to admit, the subject did not interest me all that much. Seems like a slightly stupid idea. But if he were to do it by himself I see nothing wrong with it.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7481971 - 10/03/07 06:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The experience was posted here, on the psychedelic experience by 'ellezdey'. It's called 'godlike dmt + skydiving experiment.'

Someone a few pages into the thread pointed out some holes in the report, namely that it would be impossible to light a lighter let alone take a hit from a bong at that altitude.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7482081 - 10/03/07 06:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Although this sounds like a seriously retarded idea, I cant help but want to imagine what was going on through his mind as he fell to the earth.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7482108 - 10/03/07 06:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

OMG, we so get into this shit!


The science of smoking DMT whilst parachuting.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7482261 - 10/03/07 07:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Someone a few pages into the thread pointed out some holes in the report, namely that it would be impossible to light a lighter let alone take a hit from a bong at that altitude.



I'm imagining a guy speeding towards the earth at 150 mph with big goggles on trying to hit a bong in mid-air. :lol:


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Robo]
    #7482312 - 10/03/07 07:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Anyways, I think it's total shit unless this guy hit a pipe in mid-air(which he did not do and which is impossible anyway). In his story, he says he takes 1 or 2 hits from the pipe, then proceeds to exit the plane. He would have been too disoriented in a psychedelic state to know what the hell was going on, right? How was he able to smoke DMT, jump out of plane, and then manage to come back to reality just in time to pull the cord and release the parachute?

Unless.....he pulled the cord almost right after he jumped out, which I don't think you're supposed to do. Aren't you supposed to wait until to get to a low enough altitude before releasing the parachute?

This sounds like something I would want to try,though (tandem jump of course). :lol:


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Robo]
    #7482530 - 10/03/07 08:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

he could have been atatched to a ripcord on the plane so that it is pulled for you automaticaly.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: pong]
    #7482619 - 10/03/07 08:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Read the report if you're gonna rip on the guy, he took a single bong rip of it before the door of the plane was open, held it and jumped. It wasnt the type where the ripcord was attatched, he planned on pulling it himself. Either way, if it is true, i think its a completely idiotic thing to do, just wanted to make those things clear.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7482661 - 10/03/07 08:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i dunno if it was real or not and i remember people claiming it was fake, but even if it was fake, the way he told the story was so capturing that i was close to tears i was so touched. from what i remember he had alot of trouble pulling the chord.

Search the thread if you are curious. true or not, it's an amazingly touching read.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7482684 - 10/03/07 08:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, read the report. I see no real reason to think it's fake, except of course for jealousy.

If he did it then he's got balls in my book. Maybe it's a stupid idea, but then again it was a completely amazing experience for him. I don't have a death wish but maybe try to get past all your retarded biological auto response mechanisms please, I don;t know what happens when we die, but that doesn't sound like a terrible way to do it.

Stop being so worried about preserving life that you get pissed and condescending when someone else puts their's in danger. It's their's to do what ever the hell they want with, and the fact that he was able to do that without going 'omg this is so stupid I could die" means he has balls, because he risked it all for what he knew would be an amazing experience that probably no one else has ever had.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: JstHereFrTheCake]
    #7482713 - 10/03/07 08:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Man if some idiot smoking dmt while skydiving were to crash through my roof and kill me I'd have to kill him back.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: JstHereFrTheCake]
    #7482735 - 10/03/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

"the fact that he was able to do that without going 'omg this is so stupid I could die" means he has balls"

umm no :thumbdown:


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7482817 - 10/03/07 09:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ummmm... why not.

I don;t mean to be sassy, but an explination of why would help.

Your saying that it didn;t take courage to do something incredibly dangerous inorder to attain his experience.

Most of the time brave is what people generally call stupid.

(I'll use a war hero example)
Running through gunfire is pretty stupid, unless your saving someones life.

Jumping out of a plane on a hallucinogen is stupid, unless your gaining an incredible, unique and life changing experience.

I've made my case now turn that thumbs down into an actual intelligent argument.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: JstHereFrTheCake]
    #7482924 - 10/03/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Personally, I could see this possible. Whether in an isolation tank, out in some highly wooded forest, scuba diving, or free-falling, DMT is going to inspire one serious life altering experience. The question, however, for those who might doubt that this was indeed, a relevant occurence, is if one were to descend (9.82m/s = equilibric air resistance speed for a human? Correct me if I'm wrong.)at about 35,000 ft., as I read in the article, would he/she have ample time to exhale a formitable hit of DMT, descend, and arrive back to the least bit of consciousness to pull a parachute ripcord? Another question which has already been posed is, how one would go about landing a respectable solo-parachute launch, under the influence, or comedown of DMT. I can't say for either one because I have little experience with DMT, but like I said, I could see it a possibility :S.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: MorphMan]
    #7482925 - 10/03/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think this is fairly awesome and I have to believe it's genuine unless some new evidence comes to light. Once one acclimates oneself to heavy duty psychedelic experiences one can function at least on a minimal level. Here is his final paragraph:

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Overall, this experience was IMMENSELY enlightening and also probably one of the most idiotic things a person could do. BUT, i survived and for the better. Dont try this without either talking to me, feeling as though your life is worth the risk, or if you have experience. I instead suggest that each of you find your own crazy idea for a trip, fulfill it, and realize the best way you can live your life once you complete it. Just dont do anything so dumb as to kill yourselves because as i discovered, life can be a beautiful thing and id hate for you to fail at trying to realize this.



I think he understood the potential risk, which is significant. If I smoked some DMT which really grabbed me by the boo-boo and jumped out of a plane there's a small risk (maybe 2%..?) I'd believe I would possess supernatural powers and didn't need to open my parachute. (Plus I've never parachuted so of course no DMT for the first time...) Assuming it's genuine, this gentleman is in every sense of the word a psychonaut. It's about plumbing the far reaches of human experience -- and this is not some thing the majority of people should do.

I wonder how the first hallucinogenic trip in space will happen..? Floating on DMT or 5-Meo-DMT or mescaline or LSD or MDMA or 2-4-5-dyphoxypropiniarimine could be interesting.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: JstHereFrTheCake]
    #7482954 - 10/03/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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ummmm... why not.

I don;t mean to be sassy, but an explination of why would help.

Your saying that it didn;t take courage to do something incredibly dangerous inorder to attain his experience.

Most of the time brave is what people generally call stupid.

(I'll use a war hero example)
Running through gunfire is pretty stupid, unless your saving someones life.

Jumping out of a plane on a hallucinogen is stupid, unless your gaining an incredible, unique and life changing experience.

I've made my case now turn that thumbs down into an actual intelligent argument.




well in some people it doesn't bother them to do insane stuff like that. in fact they require more stimulation than most people to get the same excitement.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: THEBats]
    #7482980 - 10/03/07 10:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm, stimulation could also be sky-diving in itself, the rush of a natural chemical such as adrenaline :S. This would probably be enough for me, although I have yet to leap out of an airplane at such an altitude, which I tend on doing sometime in the future.:rolleyes:


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: THEBats]
    #7483047 - 10/03/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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well in some people it doesn't bother them to do insane stuff like that.




Yeah that would be my point. People with balls. People who overcome their fear instead of going," oh thats stupid I'm not doing that"
when they say "stupid" all they really mean is "I can't do it cause Im scared" and stupid is just their excuse.

I've had plenty of those moments in my life, however, I don't dismiss people who overcome fear to do something amazing as stupid, just because I probably wouldn't do it. That's my beef, this guy had balls enough to jump out of a plane on DMT and had an incredible life changing experience and now a bunch of people who don't even know him are sitting around either calling him a liar (they can't believe he did it because they wouldn't) or calling him stupid for it. So what the fuck is that, thats all Im saying.

I remember when this guy first posted this and I congratulated him myself, he seemed very sincere the whole time. It doesn't even matter if he is lying. Benefit of the doubt because if he is lying it has absolutely no effect on me what so ever and if he's not then I shouldn't be trying to tear him down because of my own insecurities.

It's always amazes me that there is so much of this at the shroomery (not really) considering that psychedelic drugs are what we all supposedly have in common, but then again I geuss I've always been thoughtful and didn't need psych's to not be an ass-hole.

I think the shroomery is proof that drugs really aren't as powerful as people like to claim they are. If your an ass-hole your still gonna be one, and if your a dumbass then they aren't gonna help that either.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: pong]
    #7483119 - 10/03/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i dont know about this


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: PinniesPlox]
    #7483166 - 10/03/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Personally, I could see this possible. Whether in an isolation tank, out in some highly wooded forest, scuba diving, or free-falling, DMT is going to inspire one serious life altering experience. The question, however, for those who might doubt that this was indeed, a relevant occurence, is if one were to descend (9.82m/s = equilibric air resistance speed for a human? Correct me if I'm wrong.)at about 35,000 ft., as I read in the article, would he/she have ample time to exhale a formitable hit of DMT, descend, and arrive back to the least bit of consciousness to pull a parachute ripcord? Another question which has already been posed is, how one would go about landing a respectable solo-parachute launch, under the influence, or comedown of DMT. I can't say for either one because I have little experience with DMT, but like I said, I could see it a possibility :S.



Nah, we accelerate due to gravity at 9.8m/s^2. The average terminal velocity (where the force of gravity is equivalent to air resistance) of a human is 56 m/s. He started at 10,668 m (35,000 ft), right? According to Newtonian physics -

V=Vo+AT
56=9.8T
T=5.7s

D=VoT+(0.5)AT^2
D=(0.5)(9.8)(32.49)
D=159.2m

he'd reach a net force of zero 5.7 seconds after jumping from the plane, in which time he would have already traveled about 160 meters. From here, it's very simple physics since he's traveling at a constant velocity.

10,668m - 160m = 10,508m

t=d/v
t=(10,508m)/(56m/s)
t=187.6s

That is, traveling the remaining 10,508m would take all of 3 minutes. He'd be dead before he was finished playing amongst the stars :P.

But assuming he pulled the cord before he exhaled, the decceleration of the parachute would bring the net acceleration to zero way before he hit terminal velocity. That is, with the chute, one travels at about 6.6m/s instead of the freefalling 56m/s. Considering the following math:

t=d/v
t=(10,508)/(6.6m/s)
t= 1592s

he would have about 26 and a half minutes to trip, reflect, and gather himself before landing.

I deem this plausible, but still not incredibly likely. For one reason or another (I wouldn't know because I don't skydive) I don't think you're supposed to open your parachute too high up. I think this makes you succeptible to very strong winds, likely changing your direction to a polar extreme. Finding a suitable landing spot afterward (unless surrounded by miles, miles, and more miles of fields, might be very hard.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7484968 - 10/04/07 01:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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but even if it was fake, the way he told the story was so capturing that i was close to tears i was so touched.



I know, me too. The way he described it was great, "god-like" experience. He was on DMT looking down on the world, how crazy is that???  :ooo:

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Man if some idiot smoking dmt while skydiving were to crash through my roof and kill me I'd have to kill him back.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Robo]
    #7485062 - 10/04/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

lets get the mythbusters on the case. :thumbup:

Tonight on mythbusters:
DMT skydiving? is it possible? We put Jayme on a plane with a parachute, pipe, and 50 mg of DMT and find out.

Meanwhile tore and that asian make another machine to bust something that no one cares about. You can look at kari's boobs!

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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7485922 - 10/04/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yea man that red head is definately cute, you know what her job was before mythbusters? She was a professional martini taster, she would fly to all these amazing bars and just drink and judge martini's for a career.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7486017 - 10/04/07 06:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

He sounds like an experienced sky-diver, which makes the story more believable. It is probably just second nature for him to be skydiving, almost like driving a car on a open road after you just smoked some DMT, it's possible.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: FutureBlues]
    #7490459 - 10/06/07 03:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Future Blues said:Nah, we accelerate due to gravity at 9.8m/s^2. The average terminal velocity (where the force of gravity is equivalent to air resistance) of a human is 56 m/s. He started at 10,668 m (35,000 ft), right? According to Newtonian physics -

V=Vo+AT
56=9.8T
T=5.7s

D=VoT+(0.5)AT^2
D=(0.5)(9.8)(32.49)
D=159.2m

he'd reach a net force of zero 5.7 seconds after jumping from the plane, in which time he would have already traveled about 160 meters. From here, it's very simple physics since he's traveling at a constant velocity.

10,668m - 160m = 10,508m

t=d/v
t=(10,508m)/(56m/s)
t=187.6s

That is, traveling the remaining 10,508m would take all of 3 minutes. He'd be dead before he was finished playing amongst the stars :P.

But assuming he pulled the cord before he exhaled, the decceleration of the parachute would bring the net acceleration to zero way before he hit terminal velocity. That is, with the chute, one travels at about 6.6m/s instead of the freefalling 56m/s. Considering the following math:

t=d/v
t=(10,508)/(6.6m/s)
t= 1592s

he would have about 26 and a half minutes to trip, reflect, and gather himself before landing.

I deem this plausible, but still not incredibly likely. For one reason or another (I wouldn't know because I don't skydive) I don't think you're supposed to open your parachute too high up. I think this makes you succeptible to very strong winds, likely changing your direction to a polar extreme. Finding a suitable landing spot afterward (unless surrounded by miles, miles, and more miles of fields, might be very hard.[/qoute]


Thank you for the mathematic function as well as calculations; this is what I was hoping someone would come through with. I did, however, figure out that you would pose the possible acumen of needing a respiratory assistant type mask at 35,000 ft. in altitude. If you were to leap out of a pressurized cabin (airplane) and this altitude would also make it not very possible to light a bowl of DMT, as well (Especially 2.00+ grams if that is correct weight of his consumption) :S.


Edited by PinniesPlox (10/06/07 04:10 AM)


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: PinniesPlox]
    #7490526 - 10/06/07 06:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Before i read the article i thought the idea was stupid, both dmt and sky diving are insane enough without combining the two. But then i read the article and i realised how much of legend that guy is. If i met him in real life i would have to shake his hand. His friend makes me laugh as well, how many people could you mention an idea like this too and they respond with "You ready to fuckin FLY?!?".


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: DimensionX]
    #7490671 - 10/06/07 07:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Something id try for sure, just gotta find some dmt :frown:


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: pong]
    #7499550 - 10/08/07 09:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I read this yesterday and found it a little off. I do belive the person did it but its just to insane to belive it happened


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: PinniesPlox]
    #7499806 - 10/08/07 10:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

PinniesPlox said:
Quote:

Future Blues said:Nah, we accelerate due to gravity at 9.8m/s^2. The average terminal velocity (where the force of gravity is equivalent to air resistance) of a human is 56 m/s. He started at 10,668 m (35,000 ft), right? According to Newtonian physics -

V=Vo+AT
56=9.8T
T=5.7s

D=VoT+(0.5)AT^2
D=(0.5)(9.8)(32.49)
D=159.2m

he'd reach a net force of zero 5.7 seconds after jumping from the plane, in which time he would have already traveled about 160 meters. From here, it's very simple physics since he's traveling at a constant velocity.

10,668m - 160m = 10,508m

t=d/v
t=(10,508m)/(56m/s)
t=187.6s

That is, traveling the remaining 10,508m would take all of 3 minutes. He'd be dead before he was finished playing amongst the stars :P.

But assuming he pulled the cord before he exhaled, the decceleration of the parachute would bring the net acceleration to zero way before he hit terminal velocity. That is, with the chute, one travels at about 6.6m/s instead of the freefalling 56m/s. Considering the following math:

t=d/v
t=(10,508)/(6.6m/s)
t= 1592s

he would have about 26 and a half minutes to trip, reflect, and gather himself before landing.

I deem this plausible, but still not incredibly likely. For one reason or another (I wouldn't know because I don't skydive) I don't think you're supposed to open your parachute too high up. I think this makes you succeptible to very strong winds, likely changing your direction to a polar extreme. Finding a suitable landing spot afterward (unless surrounded by miles, miles, and more miles of fields, might be very hard.[/qoute]


Thank you for the mathematic function as well as calculations; this is what I was hoping someone would come through with. I did, however, figure out that you would pose the possible acumen of needing a respiratory assistant type mask at 35,000 ft. in altitude. If you were to leap out of a pressurized cabin (airplane) and this altitude would also make it not very possible to light a bowl of DMT, as well (Especially 2.00+ grams if that is correct weight of his consumption) :S.



That's reasonable. :P I'm a mathmetician, not a skydiver.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: FutureBlues]
    #7502529 - 10/09/07 06:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

God Damn it

I have to disprove this AGAIN

to achieve 35,000 you HAVE to jump from a PRESSURIZED PLANE
It is BEYOND difficult to exit a depressurizing airplane
Breathing at 35,000 feet is next to impossible because the air is about -60F. Although I can't prove this, I don't think you would maintain consciousness from 35,000 to 25,000 feet. Terminal velocity is HIGHER at 35,000 than 13,000 (usual jump height) so freefall time calculations would be off based on usual terminal velocity.

only an experience sky diver and DMT user could have survived this
and an experienced sky diver would have included more details.
IE: drop zone, altimeter, altitude of pull, etc.

Quote:

Some skydive centers offer high altitude jump training for experienced jumpers. Such jumps can approach 30,000 feet. During such jumps, skydivers must carry & use bottled oxygen ("bailout bottle") in freefall.




Nobody can survive a 35,000 ft starting free fall with out oxygen with out passing out
Smoking DMT is a WHOLE OTHER STORY


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: eazyrid3r]
    #7503068 - 10/09/07 08:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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eazyrid3r said:
Nobody can survive a 35,000 ft starting free fall with out oxygen with out passing out
Smoking DMT is a WHOLE OTHER STORY



Looks like this myth is BUSTED. :grin:


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Robo]
    #7503246 - 10/09/07 09:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Adagio said:
Quote:

eazyrid3r said:
Nobody can survive a 35,000 ft starting free fall with out oxygen with out passing out
Smoking DMT is a WHOLE OTHER STORY



Looks like this myth is BUSTED. :grin:




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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: eazyrid3r]
    #7504205 - 10/10/07 04:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

eazyrid3r said:
God Damn it

I have to disprove this AGAIN

to achieve 35,000 you HAVE to jump from a PRESSURIZED PLANE
It is BEYOND difficult to exit a depressurizing airplane
Breathing at 35,000 feet is next to impossible because the air is about -60F. Although I can't prove this, I don't think you would maintain consciousness from 35,000 to 25,000 feet. Terminal velocity is HIGHER at 35,000 than 13,000 (usual jump height) so freefall time calculations would be off based on usual terminal velocity.

only an experience sky diver and DMT user could have survived this
and an experienced sky diver would have included more details.
IE: drop zone, altimeter, altitude of pull, etc.

Quote:

Some skydive centers offer high altitude jump training for experienced jumpers. Such jumps can approach 30,000 feet. During such jumps, skydivers must carry & use bottled oxygen ("bailout bottle") in freefall.




Nobody can survive a 35,000 ft starting free fall with out oxygen with out passing out
Smoking DMT is a WHOLE OTHER STORY




You wouldn't need to jump out of a pressurized cabin, sure most planes are pressurized at this height but you would only need to make sure you had oxygen tanks on board. I believe this guy did the jump, he's a very experienced sky diver so a lot of the procedures would just be second nature to him. If you read the report he says he took just one deep hit of dmt, then:

"Within seconds of shooting out the plane, all hell broke loose. The trip began. Scared and in a state of paralysis, i exhaled the smoke and witnessed my life beginning to flash before my eyes."

So it probably was not a breakthrough dose of DMT, I do believe if it was he wouldn't be here now. I dunno how anyone could be capable of pulling the shoot when they were that far out there.

I'm pretty sure he did do this anyway, it seems like a pretty far fetched story to make up, it was probably just not a massive dose of DMT, but when your doing something as amazing as this would you really want a dose that big? Seems like a pretty cool idea, observing the whole world from 35000ft tripping on DMT. Stupid but pretty cool anyway.


Edited by MindFood (10/10/07 04:34 AM)


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