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Offlinerealmofyorkshire
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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: pong]
    #7499550 - 10/08/07 09:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I read this yesterday and found it a little off. I do belive the person did it but its just to insane to belive it happened


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: PinniesPlox]
    #7499806 - 10/08/07 10:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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PinniesPlox said:
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Future Blues said:Nah, we accelerate due to gravity at 9.8m/s^2. The average terminal velocity (where the force of gravity is equivalent to air resistance) of a human is 56 m/s. He started at 10,668 m (35,000 ft), right? According to Newtonian physics -

V=Vo+AT
56=9.8T
T=5.7s

D=VoT+(0.5)AT^2
D=(0.5)(9.8)(32.49)
D=159.2m

he'd reach a net force of zero 5.7 seconds after jumping from the plane, in which time he would have already traveled about 160 meters. From here, it's very simple physics since he's traveling at a constant velocity.

10,668m - 160m = 10,508m

t=d/v
t=(10,508m)/(56m/s)
t=187.6s

That is, traveling the remaining 10,508m would take all of 3 minutes. He'd be dead before he was finished playing amongst the stars :P.

But assuming he pulled the cord before he exhaled, the decceleration of the parachute would bring the net acceleration to zero way before he hit terminal velocity. That is, with the chute, one travels at about 6.6m/s instead of the freefalling 56m/s. Considering the following math:

t=d/v
t=(10,508)/(6.6m/s)
t= 1592s

he would have about 26 and a half minutes to trip, reflect, and gather himself before landing.

I deem this plausible, but still not incredibly likely. For one reason or another (I wouldn't know because I don't skydive) I don't think you're supposed to open your parachute too high up. I think this makes you succeptible to very strong winds, likely changing your direction to a polar extreme. Finding a suitable landing spot afterward (unless surrounded by miles, miles, and more miles of fields, might be very hard.[/qoute]


Thank you for the mathematic function as well as calculations; this is what I was hoping someone would come through with. I did, however, figure out that you would pose the possible acumen of needing a respiratory assistant type mask at 35,000 ft. in altitude. If you were to leap out of a pressurized cabin (airplane) and this altitude would also make it not very possible to light a bowl of DMT, as well (Especially 2.00+ grams if that is correct weight of his consumption) :S.



That's reasonable. :P I'm a mathmetician, not a skydiver.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: FutureBlues]
    #7502529 - 10/09/07 06:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

God Damn it

I have to disprove this AGAIN

to achieve 35,000 you HAVE to jump from a PRESSURIZED PLANE
It is BEYOND difficult to exit a depressurizing airplane
Breathing at 35,000 feet is next to impossible because the air is about -60F. Although I can't prove this, I don't think you would maintain consciousness from 35,000 to 25,000 feet. Terminal velocity is HIGHER at 35,000 than 13,000 (usual jump height) so freefall time calculations would be off based on usual terminal velocity.

only an experience sky diver and DMT user could have survived this
and an experienced sky diver would have included more details.
IE: drop zone, altimeter, altitude of pull, etc.

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Some skydive centers offer high altitude jump training for experienced jumpers. Such jumps can approach 30,000 feet. During such jumps, skydivers must carry & use bottled oxygen ("bailout bottle") in freefall.




Nobody can survive a 35,000 ft starting free fall with out oxygen with out passing out
Smoking DMT is a WHOLE OTHER STORY


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: eazyrid3r]
    #7503068 - 10/09/07 08:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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eazyrid3r said:
Nobody can survive a 35,000 ft starting free fall with out oxygen with out passing out
Smoking DMT is a WHOLE OTHER STORY



Looks like this myth is BUSTED. :grin:


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Robo]
    #7503246 - 10/09/07 09:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Adagio said:
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eazyrid3r said:
Nobody can survive a 35,000 ft starting free fall with out oxygen with out passing out
Smoking DMT is a WHOLE OTHER STORY



Looks like this myth is BUSTED. :grin:




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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: eazyrid3r]
    #7504205 - 10/10/07 04:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

eazyrid3r said:
God Damn it

I have to disprove this AGAIN

to achieve 35,000 you HAVE to jump from a PRESSURIZED PLANE
It is BEYOND difficult to exit a depressurizing airplane
Breathing at 35,000 feet is next to impossible because the air is about -60F. Although I can't prove this, I don't think you would maintain consciousness from 35,000 to 25,000 feet. Terminal velocity is HIGHER at 35,000 than 13,000 (usual jump height) so freefall time calculations would be off based on usual terminal velocity.

only an experience sky diver and DMT user could have survived this
and an experienced sky diver would have included more details.
IE: drop zone, altimeter, altitude of pull, etc.

Quote:

Some skydive centers offer high altitude jump training for experienced jumpers. Such jumps can approach 30,000 feet. During such jumps, skydivers must carry & use bottled oxygen ("bailout bottle") in freefall.




Nobody can survive a 35,000 ft starting free fall with out oxygen with out passing out
Smoking DMT is a WHOLE OTHER STORY




You wouldn't need to jump out of a pressurized cabin, sure most planes are pressurized at this height but you would only need to make sure you had oxygen tanks on board. I believe this guy did the jump, he's a very experienced sky diver so a lot of the procedures would just be second nature to him. If you read the report he says he took just one deep hit of dmt, then:

"Within seconds of shooting out the plane, all hell broke loose. The trip began. Scared and in a state of paralysis, i exhaled the smoke and witnessed my life beginning to flash before my eyes."

So it probably was not a breakthrough dose of DMT, I do believe if it was he wouldn't be here now. I dunno how anyone could be capable of pulling the shoot when they were that far out there.

I'm pretty sure he did do this anyway, it seems like a pretty far fetched story to make up, it was probably just not a massive dose of DMT, but when your doing something as amazing as this would you really want a dose that big? Seems like a pretty cool idea, observing the whole world from 35000ft tripping on DMT. Stupid but pretty cool anyway.


Edited by MindFood (10/10/07 04:34 AM)


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