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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: pong]
    #7482619 - 10/03/07 08:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Read the report if you're gonna rip on the guy, he took a single bong rip of it before the door of the plane was open, held it and jumped. It wasnt the type where the ripcord was attatched, he planned on pulling it himself. Either way, if it is true, i think its a completely idiotic thing to do, just wanted to make those things clear.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7482661 - 10/03/07 08:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i dunno if it was real or not and i remember people claiming it was fake, but even if it was fake, the way he told the story was so capturing that i was close to tears i was so touched. from what i remember he had alot of trouble pulling the chord.

Search the thread if you are curious. true or not, it's an amazingly touching read.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7482684 - 10/03/07 08:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, read the report. I see no real reason to think it's fake, except of course for jealousy.

If he did it then he's got balls in my book. Maybe it's a stupid idea, but then again it was a completely amazing experience for him. I don't have a death wish but maybe try to get past all your retarded biological auto response mechanisms please, I don;t know what happens when we die, but that doesn't sound like a terrible way to do it.

Stop being so worried about preserving life that you get pissed and condescending when someone else puts their's in danger. It's their's to do what ever the hell they want with, and the fact that he was able to do that without going 'omg this is so stupid I could die" means he has balls, because he risked it all for what he knew would be an amazing experience that probably no one else has ever had.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: JstHereFrTheCake]
    #7482713 - 10/03/07 08:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Man if some idiot smoking dmt while skydiving were to crash through my roof and kill me I'd have to kill him back.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: JstHereFrTheCake]
    #7482735 - 10/03/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

"the fact that he was able to do that without going 'omg this is so stupid I could die" means he has balls"

umm no :thumbdown:


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7482817 - 10/03/07 09:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ummmm... why not.

I don;t mean to be sassy, but an explination of why would help.

Your saying that it didn;t take courage to do something incredibly dangerous inorder to attain his experience.

Most of the time brave is what people generally call stupid.

(I'll use a war hero example)
Running through gunfire is pretty stupid, unless your saving someones life.

Jumping out of a plane on a hallucinogen is stupid, unless your gaining an incredible, unique and life changing experience.

I've made my case now turn that thumbs down into an actual intelligent argument.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: JstHereFrTheCake]
    #7482924 - 10/03/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Personally, I could see this possible. Whether in an isolation tank, out in some highly wooded forest, scuba diving, or free-falling, DMT is going to inspire one serious life altering experience. The question, however, for those who might doubt that this was indeed, a relevant occurence, is if one were to descend (9.82m/s = equilibric air resistance speed for a human? Correct me if I'm wrong.)at about 35,000 ft., as I read in the article, would he/she have ample time to exhale a formitable hit of DMT, descend, and arrive back to the least bit of consciousness to pull a parachute ripcord? Another question which has already been posed is, how one would go about landing a respectable solo-parachute launch, under the influence, or comedown of DMT. I can't say for either one because I have little experience with DMT, but like I said, I could see it a possibility :S.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: MorphMan]
    #7482925 - 10/03/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think this is fairly awesome and I have to believe it's genuine unless some new evidence comes to light. Once one acclimates oneself to heavy duty psychedelic experiences one can function at least on a minimal level. Here is his final paragraph:

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Overall, this experience was IMMENSELY enlightening and also probably one of the most idiotic things a person could do. BUT, i survived and for the better. Dont try this without either talking to me, feeling as though your life is worth the risk, or if you have experience. I instead suggest that each of you find your own crazy idea for a trip, fulfill it, and realize the best way you can live your life once you complete it. Just dont do anything so dumb as to kill yourselves because as i discovered, life can be a beautiful thing and id hate for you to fail at trying to realize this.



I think he understood the potential risk, which is significant. If I smoked some DMT which really grabbed me by the boo-boo and jumped out of a plane there's a small risk (maybe 2%..?) I'd believe I would possess supernatural powers and didn't need to open my parachute. (Plus I've never parachuted so of course no DMT for the first time...) Assuming it's genuine, this gentleman is in every sense of the word a psychonaut. It's about plumbing the far reaches of human experience -- and this is not some thing the majority of people should do.

I wonder how the first hallucinogenic trip in space will happen..? Floating on DMT or 5-Meo-DMT or mescaline or LSD or MDMA or 2-4-5-dyphoxypropiniarimine could be interesting.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: JstHereFrTheCake]
    #7482954 - 10/03/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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JstHereFrTheCake said:
ummmm... why not.

I don;t mean to be sassy, but an explination of why would help.

Your saying that it didn;t take courage to do something incredibly dangerous inorder to attain his experience.

Most of the time brave is what people generally call stupid.

(I'll use a war hero example)
Running through gunfire is pretty stupid, unless your saving someones life.

Jumping out of a plane on a hallucinogen is stupid, unless your gaining an incredible, unique and life changing experience.

I've made my case now turn that thumbs down into an actual intelligent argument.




well in some people it doesn't bother them to do insane stuff like that. in fact they require more stimulation than most people to get the same excitement.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: THEBats]
    #7482980 - 10/03/07 10:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm, stimulation could also be sky-diving in itself, the rush of a natural chemical such as adrenaline :S. This would probably be enough for me, although I have yet to leap out of an airplane at such an altitude, which I tend on doing sometime in the future.:rolleyes:


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: THEBats]
    #7483047 - 10/03/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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well in some people it doesn't bother them to do insane stuff like that.




Yeah that would be my point. People with balls. People who overcome their fear instead of going," oh thats stupid I'm not doing that"
when they say "stupid" all they really mean is "I can't do it cause Im scared" and stupid is just their excuse.

I've had plenty of those moments in my life, however, I don't dismiss people who overcome fear to do something amazing as stupid, just because I probably wouldn't do it. That's my beef, this guy had balls enough to jump out of a plane on DMT and had an incredible life changing experience and now a bunch of people who don't even know him are sitting around either calling him a liar (they can't believe he did it because they wouldn't) or calling him stupid for it. So what the fuck is that, thats all Im saying.

I remember when this guy first posted this and I congratulated him myself, he seemed very sincere the whole time. It doesn't even matter if he is lying. Benefit of the doubt because if he is lying it has absolutely no effect on me what so ever and if he's not then I shouldn't be trying to tear him down because of my own insecurities.

It's always amazes me that there is so much of this at the shroomery (not really) considering that psychedelic drugs are what we all supposedly have in common, but then again I geuss I've always been thoughtful and didn't need psych's to not be an ass-hole.

I think the shroomery is proof that drugs really aren't as powerful as people like to claim they are. If your an ass-hole your still gonna be one, and if your a dumbass then they aren't gonna help that either.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: pong]
    #7483119 - 10/03/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i dont know about this


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: PinniesPlox]
    #7483166 - 10/03/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Personally, I could see this possible. Whether in an isolation tank, out in some highly wooded forest, scuba diving, or free-falling, DMT is going to inspire one serious life altering experience. The question, however, for those who might doubt that this was indeed, a relevant occurence, is if one were to descend (9.82m/s = equilibric air resistance speed for a human? Correct me if I'm wrong.)at about 35,000 ft., as I read in the article, would he/she have ample time to exhale a formitable hit of DMT, descend, and arrive back to the least bit of consciousness to pull a parachute ripcord? Another question which has already been posed is, how one would go about landing a respectable solo-parachute launch, under the influence, or comedown of DMT. I can't say for either one because I have little experience with DMT, but like I said, I could see it a possibility :S.



Nah, we accelerate due to gravity at 9.8m/s^2. The average terminal velocity (where the force of gravity is equivalent to air resistance) of a human is 56 m/s. He started at 10,668 m (35,000 ft), right? According to Newtonian physics -

V=Vo+AT
56=9.8T
T=5.7s

D=VoT+(0.5)AT^2
D=(0.5)(9.8)(32.49)
D=159.2m

he'd reach a net force of zero 5.7 seconds after jumping from the plane, in which time he would have already traveled about 160 meters. From here, it's very simple physics since he's traveling at a constant velocity.

10,668m - 160m = 10,508m

t=d/v
t=(10,508m)/(56m/s)
t=187.6s

That is, traveling the remaining 10,508m would take all of 3 minutes. He'd be dead before he was finished playing amongst the stars :P.

But assuming he pulled the cord before he exhaled, the decceleration of the parachute would bring the net acceleration to zero way before he hit terminal velocity. That is, with the chute, one travels at about 6.6m/s instead of the freefalling 56m/s. Considering the following math:

t=d/v
t=(10,508)/(6.6m/s)
t= 1592s

he would have about 26 and a half minutes to trip, reflect, and gather himself before landing.

I deem this plausible, but still not incredibly likely. For one reason or another (I wouldn't know because I don't skydive) I don't think you're supposed to open your parachute too high up. I think this makes you succeptible to very strong winds, likely changing your direction to a polar extreme. Finding a suitable landing spot afterward (unless surrounded by miles, miles, and more miles of fields, might be very hard.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7484968 - 10/04/07 01:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

SapphireCat said:
but even if it was fake, the way he told the story was so capturing that i was close to tears i was so touched.



I know, me too. The way he described it was great, "god-like" experience. He was on DMT looking down on the world, how crazy is that???  :ooo:

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Man if some idiot smoking dmt while skydiving were to crash through my roof and kill me I'd have to kill him back.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Robo]
    #7485062 - 10/04/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

lets get the mythbusters on the case. :thumbup:

Tonight on mythbusters:
DMT skydiving? is it possible? We put Jayme on a plane with a parachute, pipe, and 50 mg of DMT and find out.

Meanwhile tore and that asian make another machine to bust something that no one cares about. You can look at kari's boobs!

Edited due to mispelled names. Im still not sure if they are spelled right.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7485922 - 10/04/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yea man that red head is definately cute, you know what her job was before mythbusters? She was a professional martini taster, she would fly to all these amazing bars and just drink and judge martini's for a career.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7486017 - 10/04/07 06:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

He sounds like an experienced sky-diver, which makes the story more believable. It is probably just second nature for him to be skydiving, almost like driving a car on a open road after you just smoked some DMT, it's possible.


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: FutureBlues]
    #7490459 - 10/06/07 03:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Future Blues said:Nah, we accelerate due to gravity at 9.8m/s^2. The average terminal velocity (where the force of gravity is equivalent to air resistance) of a human is 56 m/s. He started at 10,668 m (35,000 ft), right? According to Newtonian physics -

V=Vo+AT
56=9.8T
T=5.7s

D=VoT+(0.5)AT^2
D=(0.5)(9.8)(32.49)
D=159.2m

he'd reach a net force of zero 5.7 seconds after jumping from the plane, in which time he would have already traveled about 160 meters. From here, it's very simple physics since he's traveling at a constant velocity.

10,668m - 160m = 10,508m

t=d/v
t=(10,508m)/(56m/s)
t=187.6s

That is, traveling the remaining 10,508m would take all of 3 minutes. He'd be dead before he was finished playing amongst the stars :P.

But assuming he pulled the cord before he exhaled, the decceleration of the parachute would bring the net acceleration to zero way before he hit terminal velocity. That is, with the chute, one travels at about 6.6m/s instead of the freefalling 56m/s. Considering the following math:

t=d/v
t=(10,508)/(6.6m/s)
t= 1592s

he would have about 26 and a half minutes to trip, reflect, and gather himself before landing.

I deem this plausible, but still not incredibly likely. For one reason or another (I wouldn't know because I don't skydive) I don't think you're supposed to open your parachute too high up. I think this makes you succeptible to very strong winds, likely changing your direction to a polar extreme. Finding a suitable landing spot afterward (unless surrounded by miles, miles, and more miles of fields, might be very hard.[/qoute]


Thank you for the mathematic function as well as calculations; this is what I was hoping someone would come through with. I did, however, figure out that you would pose the possible acumen of needing a respiratory assistant type mask at 35,000 ft. in altitude. If you were to leap out of a pressurized cabin (airplane) and this altitude would also make it not very possible to light a bowl of DMT, as well (Especially 2.00+ grams if that is correct weight of his consumption) :S.


Edited by PinniesPlox (10/06/07 04:10 AM)


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: PinniesPlox]
    #7490526 - 10/06/07 06:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Before i read the article i thought the idea was stupid, both dmt and sky diving are insane enough without combining the two. But then i read the article and i realised how much of legend that guy is. If i met him in real life i would have to shake his hand. His friend makes me laugh as well, how many people could you mention an idea like this too and they respond with "You ready to fuckin FLY?!?".


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Re: Sky-Diving On DMT WTF?? [Re: DimensionX]
    #7490671 - 10/06/07 07:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Something id try for sure, just gotta find some dmt :frown:


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