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fahtster
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SA's on bulk.
#7478869 - 10/02/07 09:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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just so yall know I know my shit.. 54 qt tubs.. SA clone gotten with this tek... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6590986/an/0/page/2 just straight up tubs... no GH needed.. all three of these tubs total dried to 516 grams for the first flush.
this tub was cased as soon as the first pin was seen...

This tub was cased a day before the first knot or pin was seen...

heres an uncased tub of the same isolate...

all fruits were in this range in size...

heres both the uncased and early cased tubs together...

heres all three early in the game..

substrate is about five inches thick... aired out everyday from the time of being made.
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Re: SA's on bulk. [Re: fahtster]
#7478884 - 10/02/07 09:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: SA's on bulk. [Re: fahtster]
#7478887 - 10/02/07 09:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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cant wait till i start cloning. Those are some awesome flushes.
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Re: SA's on bulk. [Re: fahtster]
#7478897 - 10/02/07 09:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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nice grow fahtster!~

S.A.'s are my favorite!~
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Re: SA's on bulk. [Re: Roadkill]
#7478964 - 10/02/07 09:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice isolate, SA's were my first grow 
Your's looks hella sexy
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Re: SA's on bulk. [Re: Roadkill]
#7478974 - 10/02/07 09:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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My goodness, that is a great grow.
What's the rationale behind casing after seeing the first pin? I thought the myc should be allowed to colonize the casing layer a bit? Once it starts pinning, doesn't the vegetative growth stop?
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fahtster
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Re: SA's on bulk. [Re: Pr0_X]
#7479029 - 10/02/07 10:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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thanks guys. I appreciate the kind words.. yeah, I've grown (no pun intended) very fond of the SA's... they do great on cakes too. this is in that link that I posted, so I hope i'm not being too redundant but...
thats just one of the two cake towers in that bin.
it's quite a ways down that page so I think most will probably just not see it thats twelve cakes double stacked... SA's come highly recommended from myself.. the best part about this is that that isolate sat for about a year on dried corn in one of my faht jars in a drawer... heres the link to how those jars are made.. it's the link to how I make my lids.. suuuuuuuuper safe lids yo.. but you can see down towards the bottom of the thread how the jars are made and then retrieved... the best part about the lids is that I can control how much the jar gets dried out by simply adding a piece of tape over the filter section... for anything to get into my master jars.. it has to go thru three layers of tyvek.. two postal and one kite.. and two self-healing inoc ports.. one on the outside top layer of postal and one on the inside of the jar underneath the lid.. the inoc ports are right on top of each other.. so when you poke thru one, you poke thru the other... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6886717/an/0/page/0 I like tyvek lids compared to plastic ones because, not only is there a seal made at the rim of the jar but also between the threads of the jar and the threads of the lid band... so a good inch of seal is obtained. you don't get that with plastic lids and whatman filters. 
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Re: SA's on bulk. [Re: archivist]
#7479055 - 10/02/07 10:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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the rationale is that the substrate is already in the knotting/pinning stage so by the time you put the casing on, you are just providing a nice environment for the fruits to appear, but I've found that if you do it too late... you will kill the maturing pins.. if you do it as knots, they survive it just fine. It's really just another way to do it.. I mean even that noncased bin did good and really did better than the cased ones on the second flush.. it basically fruited the second flush everywhere the first didn't... I got about 106 dry grams from that non cased bin on the second flush and it came in waaaaay quicker.. the second flush from the cased bins is still drying. but it's also nice... let me upload the pics from the second flush. again, it's just another way to do it.. yall have some damn nice casing pin sets over here, due, I'm guessing, to the pinning strategy yall follow. 
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Re: SA's on bulk. [Re: fahtster]
#7479060 - 10/02/07 10:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Very nice, it always makes me happy to see a nice grow! Btw, on those tubs, what exactly are those filter patches you got one those holes? It looks very efficient for FAE, I like it.
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fahtster
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Quote:
HappyHardcore said: Very nice, it always makes me happy to see a nice grow! Btw, on those tubs, what exactly are those filter patches you got one those holes? It looks very efficient for FAE, I like it.
it's just U.S. quarter sized holes melted into the bin that are covered with one layer of kite tyvek.. probably going to switch to mycopore tape here pretty soon tho. 
well, I guess I can show you the second flush of all these bins eh. lol... heres the noncased tub. All these subs were simply put into water in shallow bins and left floating for 24 hours with press n seal loosely covering them.. like I said, this bin did about 106 dry grams for the second flush.. not too shabby.. but of course didn't do AS good as the cased subs for the first flush so I call it even steven..

heres the other two bins.. that late cased sub is on the left and the early cased sub is on the right.. the jury is still out on the weight for these two tubs but its not bad. 

the late cased up close.. really got some honkers out of the sub for the second.

a close up of the early cased sub...

right now the subs are sitting in their tubs, I'll probably dunk for a third try tomorrow. 
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Re: SA's on bulk. [Re: fahtster]
#7479287 - 10/02/07 11:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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What was the dimensions of that tub and what substrate did you use? That's some impressive growth!
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fahtster
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thank you. dimensions = 23 1/2"L x 16 1/4"W x 12 1/4"H ish.. I have all old style tubs tho.. the labels have since come off from countless washings but thats what the sterilite website said.. I think the old style bins are 54 qt. tho. so a little smaller..
the substrate was Hpoo/Straw at about a 2:1 ratio of Hpoo to straw.. The lids are Press N Seal (not sure why yall put it down so much, I love the stuff.. it sticks and you can poke holes in it for FAE. ) The spawn grain is Rye.. rye is so easy to make.. I just fill the qts with 1 cup of berries, fill with water and shake with my hand over the jar opening... then I put a fine strainer over the opening and drain.. do that twice to clean the berries.. the I just fill until it's about 1/8 inch past the top of the grain and PC.. almost too easy. used 6 qts per bin, which had about 10 lbs wet of pasteurized substrate. I also didn't cover the top of the substrate with foil or anything.. theres just no need for that... I let it colonize with only the P N S lid on the opening to the bin. I'd air the bins out at least once every two days... no reason to let it sit there without a little FAE.. keeps bacteria at bay and keeping the substrate uncovered without foil with holes in it lets the center colonize without bacteria infestation. I exposed to light the whole time so just about when the substrate was fully colonized is right when it started knotting up.. then when I saw the first pin, I cased (at least for that first one.. I made the other two bins about a day and a half after the first, but I had the casing pasteurized for the first one so I just applied it to the second one also.. thats why they were cased at different times.). 
fahtster
update: the dry weight of the two cased bins for the 2nd flush is 178 grams.. bringing the total of all three bins over two flushes to around 800 grams.
Edited by fahtster (10/03/07 02:01 PM)
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