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Need ID on possible A. Pantherina
    #7477660 - 10/02/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Found this growing under a tree that smelled like a christmas tree and had tiny pinecones, which i can only guess to be a conifer. I am located in blue ridge mountains and my audubon field guide says Amanita pantherinas rarely grow in the east. Looks like one to me though, could just be high hopes...






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Re: Need ID on possible A. Pantherina [Re: poof]
    #7477835 - 10/02/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think it's Amanita pantherina,the trees were maybe Eastern Hemlock.two concentric rings on the basal bulb and looks like a Blusher with no blushing,yes?:igor:


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Re: Need ID on possible A. Pantherina [Re: coon]
    #7477866 - 10/02/07 03:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Some higher resolution pictures of these mushrooms at various stages of development would help.

Those are concentric rings on the bulb, right?

What color is the cap on young specimens?


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Re: Need ID on possible A. Pantherina [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7478535 - 10/02/07 07:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thats strange, the pics were showing up fullsize earlier. Lets see if a different host will show it properly:






I did damage the stem with no bruising. There was only one other smaller mushrooms that was getting close to breaking its veil. Now when you say two concentric rings, are they noticeablly visible? Because i do not spot any rings on the bulb other than where the bulb splits off from the stem, which isnt really a well defined ring.

If it is pantherina i dont want it to go to waste, but then again i dont want to kill myself either so please use your best judgement!


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Re: Need ID on possible A. Pantherina [Re: poof]
    #7478952 - 10/02/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It looks a bit like Amanita gemmata. It may be A. pantherina, but I would hold off until you can find specimens with a darker colored cap and more pronounced rings on the base.


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Re: Need ID on possible A. Pantherina [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7479089 - 10/02/07 10:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like one of the yellow fly agaric's i found the other day. The sun was making the caps turn from a yellow color to a tanish-white-pale yellow like that and I saw them the day before when it was a little more humid out. My 2 cents

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Re: Need ID on possible A. Pantherina [Re: hightimesreader]
    #7479121 - 10/02/07 10:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah i´m more in the tendency of amanita muscaria variant


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Re: Need ID on possible A. Pantherina [Re: cactu]
    #7479168 - 10/02/07 10:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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cactu said:
yeah i´m more in the tendency of amanita muscaria variant




My amanita's are prolly a mascaria var. too then?

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Re: Need ID on possible A. Pantherina [Re: hightimesreader]
    #7479239 - 10/02/07 11:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

> My amanita's are prolly a mascaria var. too then?

Maybe, post some pictures.


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Re: Need ID on possible A. Pantherina [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7481249 - 10/03/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Checked back on the second one and it doesnt have any discernable rings at the base, so i dont think its a panther.

Ok, so even if its a gemmata im still go to go then. Cool, time to process em'.


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Re: Need ID on possible A. Pantherina [Re: poof]
    #7481807 - 10/03/07 05:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

> Ok, so even if its a gemmata im still go to go then. Cool, time to process em'.

I wouldn't recommend eating them without knowing exactly what species it is. It looks like a lot of other species too.

It is really a good idea to stick to the plain red A. muscaria because otherwise there are tons of different species you are dealing with. No one really knows what is in the pictured mushroom. Might be deadly.

Edit: Maybe I am just being paranoid, but I wouldn't eat it.


Edited by Alan Rockefeller (10/03/07 05:23 PM)


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Re: Need ID on possible A. Pantherina [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7482236 - 10/03/07 07:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Agreed.
Personally, I think the main post is a Panther. Firstly, who's to tell? :shrug: These mushrooms are responsible for a large number of mushroom poisonings because there are so many varients, and they look so much alike macroscopically.

> Ok, so even if its a gemmata im still go to go then. Cool, time to process em'.

Really doesn't seem like ingesting even real amanita is worth it to just get high. That's taking a gamble with your health, IMO :shrug:

Edit: sorry for the confusion.


Edited by LouiseLouise (10/03/07 07:29 PM)


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