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Cracka_X
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#7477199 - 10/02/07 11:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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rest aside you could pick both, you can only chose one. and why?
-------------------- The best way to live is to be like water For water benefits all things and goes against none of them It provides for all people and even cleanses those places a man is loath to go In this way it is just like Tao ~Daodejing
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Re: question [Re: Cracka_X]
#7477222 - 10/02/07 12:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not sure I understand the question.
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Re: question [Re: Cracka_X]
#7477237 - 10/02/07 12:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Since my body is composed of elements derived from this world, I say that I came out of this world. "Into" implies that I used to be somewhere else.
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Re: question [Re: Veritas]
#7477239 - 10/02/07 12:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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OK, I get it.
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Re: question [Re: Cracka_X]
#7477268 - 10/02/07 12:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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well my dad came into my mom...and then i came out of her...so.. umm..i reject your system and choose both.
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Re: question [Re: Clean]
#7477274 - 10/02/07 12:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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   All this time I've loved you And never known your face All this time I've missed you And searched this human race Here is true peace Here my heart knows calm Safe in your soul Bathed in your sighs
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Re: question [Re: Cracka_X]
#7477296 - 10/02/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am sure the first choice would appeal to theists, yeah a spirit that comes into this world.
As for me, I came out of this world and again i would go back into this world.
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Re: question [Re: Cracka_X]
#7477394 - 10/02/07 01:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I always felt like a traveller here, a stranger, like a tourist from outer space who has to make the best out of his stay. And I learned to love the place, not the people and I can (and maybe want) not see how this place could make so many of the people here so...ugly.
Edited by BlueCoyote (10/02/07 01:07 PM)
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Re: question [Re: Cracka_X]
#7477445 - 10/02/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sometimes I feel like one sometimes I feel like the other but the second one makes more sense.
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Re: question [Re: Clean]
#7477547 - 10/02/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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just a bit more seriously..(but not much) i have a hard time choosing one because i'm not sure about the relationship between "I" and "The World"...
some reasons why:
- not sure if, or where, "i" end and "this world" begins
- not sufficiently convinced of what "I", or this world, entirely consist of
- don't know that "this world" and "i" aren't ultimately unified
"I" seem to be some sort of node, function, point, cluster, or interactive, communicative thingamajig that appears to exist as part of complex matrix of events.
Where does "this world" fit in?
This World? That World? The World?
What do we mean when we say "the/this world"? This planet? This universe? All events? All events that are experienced / perceived by consciousness?
Do we include "I" as part of this world?...this world as part of "I"? Do we think "I" is only, ever and totally just a temporary guest of "This world"? Do we have reasons to suspect otherwise?
Why separate "I" and "the world"? Why separate life and death? Could these experience be stages of an unfolding and recurring process? Is there any question I won't ask?
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Re: question [Re: Clean]
#7477633 - 10/02/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Man, you got it worse then I do.  
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Re: question [Re: Clean]
#7477687 - 10/02/07 02:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I that !
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hehe, excellent!
-------------------- The best way to live is to be like water For water benefits all things and goes against none of them It provides for all people and even cleanses those places a man is loath to go In this way it is just like Tao ~Daodejing
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Re: question [Re: Cracka_X]
#7478839 - 10/02/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I **think** that I can safely say that: 1) I am 2) I am on this world 3) I am in this world 4) I am of this world 5) I am a part of this world 6) my physical parts are made of the same materials as this world
Some people have told me that I am out of this world, but that prolly~ don't count.... 
>^;;^<
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it is a blast
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Re: question [Re: Clean]
#7484327 - 10/04/07 10:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Clean said: just a bit more seriously..(but not much) i have a hard time choosing one because I'm not sure about the relationship between "I" and "The World"...
some reasons why:
- not sure if, or where, "i" end and "this world" begins
indeed, i assume i operate my pituitary gland, but i know nothing about how that works consciously. neither do i know how to operate the rising and setting sun, but it too is crucial to my human experience. its certainly a possibility that my sub conscious mind is running the whole of creation without my know how. and truly there is no separation between my body and creation, as beams of light are reflecting all into my eyes. are those beams of light a part of me as much as my skin is part of me? all i know is that i am this human experience, but does that make this experience (and all that goes along with it) me?
i think this is what maya is. maya meaning that there is no way to know what is illusion and what is real. so long as we know there is no way to know, its hard to take life to seriously when seriousness would get in the way of fully living.
Edited by Archemetis (10/04/07 10:23 AM)
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Good observations.
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Thank you (as I created Archemetis in my mind).
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i think this is what maya is. maya meaning that there is no way to know what is illusion and what is real. so long as we know there is no way to know, its hard to take life to seriously when seriousness would get in the way of fully living.
hell yeah!
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