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Shrooms & SSRIs
    #7473794 - 10/01/07 12:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I have been prescribed to zoloft for anxiety (however I don't feel I need it and stopped taking it a week ago). I did shrooms for my first time Saturday night and was not pleased. I ate 2 grams and got very minimal effects.

Although I stopped taking the SSRIs a week before I ate the shrooms (I'm also 110 pounds and 5'5'' with a very fast metabolism) do you think it's responsible for why I did not achieve much of the effects from shrooms? Or do you think I just got ripped off (a possibility).


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: Serdal]
    #7473867 - 10/01/07 12:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Though the half-life of an SSRI, namely zoloft, would lead you to believe that you only need a week off to get it out of your system, the fact of the matter is that it takes a specific amount of time to:
A. Achieve the half life of the drug.
B. Get the drug out of not only your blood stream, but also out of your body completely.
C. Allowing yourself time for your neurotransmitter production to return to nomal.

If you want to get the full effect of mushrooms after taking an SSRI, I would advise you to wait 6 months to a year before expecting to maximise the effects of a dose.


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: Fraggin]
    #7473927 - 10/01/07 01:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The half life of the drug is only one day.


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: Serdal]
    #7473992 - 10/01/07 01:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The effects of the drug may be due to many things in addition to its half-life (as previously stated).


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: badchad]
    #7474003 - 10/01/07 01:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You don't need 6 months off SSRIs to trip.  I take lexapro daily and I still trip balls.  Just don't try to roll :wink:


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: Serdal]
    #7474033 - 10/01/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Rrrrright....
So, in two days after cessation, you will have half the amount in your blood stream, etc. etc.. until you're nil, however,You're still looking at 5 days to a week for it to be out of your blood....
But, where the chemicals bind, i.e. liver, kidneys, brain, you should multiply the half life x6 in order to get a good indication as to when your body will be rid of the compounds of the drug.

Then after that period, give yourself time to restabilize.


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: skroomadoom]
    #7474040 - 10/01/07 01:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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skroomadoom said:
You don't need 6 months off SSRIs to trip.  I take lexapro daily and I still trip balls.  Just don't try to roll :wink:




Define: trip balls.....
Also, what is your dosage?


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: skroomadoom]
    #7474047 - 10/01/07 01:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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skroomadoom said:
You don't need 6 months off SSRIs to trip.  I take lexapro daily and I still trip balls.  Just don't try to roll :wink:




Also, you obviously have trouble with comprehension. May have something to do with mixing escitolopram with psilocybin....
I said
If you want to get the full effect of mushrooms after taking an SSRI, I would advise you to wait 6 months to a year before expecting to maximise the effects of a dose.


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: Fraggin]
    #7474050 - 10/01/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Two grams sounds minimal. Try taking 3 grams in a several days and you should experience good results. I have several friends who stop taking their SSRI's for a week before a trip and they say that is more than adequate to achieve proper results.


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: wireless]
    #7474557 - 10/01/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I might try again this weekend, do you think it would work? They're really expensive here and I don't wanna have to keep on buying them.


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: Serdal]
    #7474720 - 10/01/07 05:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Depends on a lot more than just the SSRIs you are taking. The potency of mushrooms can vary a whole lot.

I've eaten 6 grams, and had an equally intense trip when i took 2.75 grams of a different batch (i wish i had a pound of those ones :heart:). So you might have weak mushrooms. Theres not really much of a way to tell how potent your mushrooms are, except talking to people that have eaten that certain batch, or trying them yourself.

How many milligrams of zoloft do they have you on may i ask?


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7474773 - 10/01/07 05:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

12.5mg. And I only took it for no more than two months, if it makes a difference.


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: Serdal]
    #7474880 - 10/01/07 06:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Also, you obviously have trouble with comprehension. May have something to do with mixing escitolopram with psilocybin....
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If you want to get the full effect of mushrooms after taking an SSRI, I would advise you to wait 6 months to a year before expecting to maximise the effects of a dose.




No need to flame man, I was just sharing my experience. I tripped both before and after I started taking lexapro and to be honest I don't really notice a difference. I used to take 10mg per day but I'm now down to 5mg as I'm tapering off. I've tripped on both LSD and shrooms while taking lexapro and I get similar effects to my friends tripping on the same dose. Obviously, I'm not saying all SSRIs are equal, YMMV as always.


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: skroomadoom]
    #7474984 - 10/01/07 06:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I REALLY hope I don't have to wait 6 months before I can get decent effects. The one chance I get to finally buy shrooms and they don't work. There doesn't happen to be any way to speed up the process? Or a certain time where I can atleast experience most of the effects?

Like I said before, I'm on the lowest possible dose of Zoloft, and I have only been on it for a month or two. Would it still take this long?


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: Serdal]
    #7475188 - 10/01/07 07:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah 12.5 mg is a pretty low dose. You must be cutting the 25 mg pills in half am i right?

I think if you are off it for a week, you should be ok to feel something stronger than you would if you had kept taking them, but im not sure how much stronger itll be. But try it out if you want to, and good luck with it. 12.5 shouldn't interfere with it too much. Give it a rest for until your next trip, and see how it goes.


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: Serdal]
    #7475194 - 10/01/07 07:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

you just need to take more shrooms, maybe they just werent that great, try an 8th next time


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: boomer q]
    #7475430 - 10/01/07 08:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

An 1/8th is 50$ here, so I don't want to buy one unless I know i'll trip.

I stopped using zoloft a week before I took the shrooms. I'm on my second week now, maybe that will help?


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: Serdal]
    #7476720 - 10/02/07 09:04 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The semantics of the effects shrooms provide while utilizing or recently stopping an SSRI is subjective.
First, consider the way psilocybin reacts with various parts of your nervous system. Then, familiarize yourself with your nominal operational state without any outside influences.
I have experimented with SSRI+psilocybin combinations extensively, and for me personally, the effects seemed to top out no matter the dosage.. I have consumed up to 12 grams at a time and achieved the same results as a 2 gram dose. All you can really do is either continue reaching for that magical dose while on SSRI's or you can quit using SSRI's for a while before you try, or you can not do shrooms and keep taking and SSRI or you can not do either.


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: Serdal]
    #7476958 - 10/02/07 10:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

it wont take anywhere near 6 months. 2 weeks should be fine, but as said, check the halflife. test out a normal dose youd take if you werent on antidepressants then if its not enough you could take more but id assume by then its the shrooms and not the antidepressant as thatd be out of your system especially with a low dose and only being on it a month or so.

why are you only on a low dose of antidepressants for a month anyway? that doesnt make much sense.


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: Locus]
    #7477611 - 10/02/07 02:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I had it for anxiety (I stopped taking it without anyone knowing and I don't have anxiety anymore but they wouldn't believe me). I never liked it the second I got it so I wanted to stop taking it. Then I got shrooms and I was told I needed to stop taking zoloft in order to trip on shrooms. With reason, I gladly stopped. A week later (half life of zoloft is one day) I took the shrooms and achieved minimal effects.

Do you think another week would make a big different? The person I bought them from might have ripped me off, (It is a possibility) but the shrooms did look very legit to me.


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Re: Shrooms & SSRIs [Re: Serdal]
    #7477712 - 10/02/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Half life is 26 hours, as a few websites say.


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